Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-11-09 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi back,

Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (19/10/2010):
 I could push what's currently in experimental as
 “autobuild-unstable” to get it built against XServer 1.7 and tested
 by users; and also upload it to experimental so that it gets built
 against XServer 1.9 as other drivers; this way we get an almost
 complete set of drivers built against XServer 1.9 with the latter,
 and we can still ask users for feedback against XServer 1.7 with the
 former.

what I'm going to do in the next minutes:
 + rename debian-experimental into autobuild-unstable
   → available at autobuild.ikibiki.org, with debug packages, built
 against 1.7;
 + reset debian-experimental to HEAD~~
   → forgets about debug packages (I'd like to skip NEW), then build
 against 1.9, and upload to experimental. [I could also revert,
 upload, and revert the revert, but that sounds like extra
 paperwork…]

Why I'd like to skip NEW? Because -video-openchrome is now the only
remaining driver making -video-all uninstallable in experimental. Once
it's ACCEPTED and available in the archive, I might push a -2 with the
-dbg packages.

Mraw,
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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-11-09 Thread Julien Viard de Galbert
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:57:48PM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Hi back,
 
 Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org (19/10/2010):
  I could push what's currently in experimental as
  “autobuild-unstable” to get it built against XServer 1.7 and tested
  by users; and also upload it to experimental so that it gets built
  against XServer 1.9 as other drivers; this way we get an almost
  complete set of drivers built against XServer 1.9 with the latter,
  and we can still ask users for feedback against XServer 1.7 with the
  former.
 
 what I'm going to do in the next minutes:
  + rename debian-experimental into autobuild-unstable
→ available at autobuild.ikibiki.org, with debug packages, built
  against 1.7;
  + reset debian-experimental to HEAD~~
→ forgets about debug packages (I'd like to skip NEW), then build
  against 1.9, and upload to experimental. [I could also revert,
  upload, and revert the revert, but that sounds like extra
  paperwork…]
 
 Why I'd like to skip NEW? Because -video-openchrome is now the only
 remaining driver making -video-all uninstallable in experimental. Once
 it's ACCEPTED and available in the archive, I might push a -2 with the
 -dbg packages.

Ok, fine, go ahead, I'll think of resetting my local git accordingly ;)
 
 Mraw,
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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-24 Thread Julien Viard de Galbert
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 07:31:22PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org (20/10/2010):
  Well actually the git repos is build using git-svn so I never
  downloaded a tarball. I think the explanation on how to configure
  git-svn on a clone from debian's package git should go to
  debian/README.source however this file currently came from xsfbs so
  I didn't change it.
 
 I'm not sure how to proceed with that one. Either adding a file
 (possibly pointed to from README.source), or directly modifying the
 README.source for openchrome, and living with (possible) conflicts
 when merging from xsfbs.
 
Well I did add a paragraph at the beginning of README.source so I hope
the merges with xsfbs will be easy. I also added a new README.VCS-source
describing the git and git-svn usage.

 That said, git-svn is a bit special, since it's somehow linked to the
 initial clone you did, with its local metadata. I guess somebody
 willing to work on updating it as well could git svn clone upstream
 starting with the last commit in the upstream branch, and then apply
 patches manually from one (git-svn-based) branch to another
 (“pure”-git) one. Unless some new feature appeared, helping people to
 play around with git-svn in a distributed fashion.
 
I didn't do the initial git-svn checkout, but when adopting the package
I found that configuring git-svn after cloning the git repos from 
debian was rebuilding the git-svn branch correctly, so I just described
the steps in README.VCS-source.

  Unless the idea is to use pristine-tar for the first tarball we
  build for a particular svn revision so that later debian revision of
  the packages can be build directly from git... (just got it, right?)
 
 That's the idea, yeah.
 
  I'll look into that. And that also needs to be documented, is
  debian/README.source the right place ?
 
 Yeah, that would be, with the same comments as above.
 
Done.

But pristine-tar branch only have 0.2.904+svn842, I didn't do the one
for the experimental branch as I didn't know if you prepared it already.
Also the changes to debian-unstable should be merged (or cherry-picked)
to the experimental branch. I didn't push that either, but I can, just
ask.

Regards

Julien VdG
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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-21 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org (20/10/2010):
 Right, just updated my mailer configuration, should not be in this
 mail.

:)

 Well actually the git repos is build using git-svn so I never
 downloaded a tarball. I think the explanation on how to configure
 git-svn on a clone from debian's package git should go to
 debian/README.source however this file currently came from xsfbs so
 I didn't change it.

I'm not sure how to proceed with that one. Either adding a file
(possibly pointed to from README.source), or directly modifying the
README.source for openchrome, and living with (possible) conflicts
when merging from xsfbs.

That said, git-svn is a bit special, since it's somehow linked to the
initial clone you did, with its local metadata. I guess somebody
willing to work on updating it as well could git svn clone upstream
starting with the last commit in the upstream branch, and then apply
patches manually from one (git-svn-based) branch to another
(“pure”-git) one. Unless some new feature appeared, helping people to
play around with git-svn in a distributed fashion.

 Unless the idea is to use pristine-tar for the first tarball we
 build for a particular svn revision so that later debian revision of
 the packages can be build directly from git... (just got it, right?)

That's the idea, yeah.

 I'll look into that. And that also needs to be documented, is
 debian/README.source the right place ?

Yeah, that would be, with the same comments as above.

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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-20 Thread Julien Viard de Galbert
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:43:32PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org (19/10/2010):
  I am, so no need for next times ;)
 
 ACK. But I see:
 | Mail-Followup-To: Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org, […]
 
Right, just updated my mailer configuration, should not be in this mail.

   Alright, will do as soon as I find some time.
   
  Thanks.
 
 Well, nothing to say besides it's alright. Did you consider applying
 for the DM status or for the NM process?
 
Yes, I considered it. But with only one package uploaded and only once,
I didn't think it was time to start such process. (I only see DM as a 
first step to DD).
  I could have published it on my own blog (as I did once) but I feel
  it needs to look a bit more official when it comes to asking user to
  install it.  Just tell me when it's there so I can start pinging
  bugs ;)
 
 Available now in autobuild.ikibiki.org, in autobuild-unstable for the
 build against XServer 1.7; upload to experimental will follow shortly.
I will test that and start pinging bugs as soon as I get time to do it.

 
 (although that's not automated yet) the Release file is signed with my
 current GPG key in the keyring (747935DD).
 
 I think we want to look into pristine-tar to keep track of the
 upstream tarballs built from svn snapshots, so that we don't need to
 download them from the archive or from snapshot.debian.org when we
 only have a git repository available. Do you want to look into it, or
 do you want me to?
Well actually the git repos is build using git-svn so I never downloaded
a tarball. I think the explanation on how to configure git-svn on a
clone from debian's package git should go to debian/README.source
however this file currently came from xsfbs so I didn't change it.

Also I don't think openchrome.org publish any snapshot tarball. They
only publish some releases.
So except for releases I did't immediately see how pristine-tar would be
useful.
Unless the idea is to use pristine-tar for the first tarball we build
for a particular svn revision so that later debian revision of the
packages can be build directly from git... (just got it, right?)
I'll look into that. And that also needs to be documented, is
debian/README.source the right place ?

Regards

Julien VdG

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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-20 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Julien Viard de Galbert wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:43:32PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 
 Well, nothing to say besides it's alright. Did you consider applying
 for the DM status or for the NM process?
 
 Yes, I considered it. But with only one package uploaded and only once,
 I didn't think it was time to start such process. (I only see DM as a
 first step to DD).

Hi, 

with my I am a DM-hat on: I think you are wrong. :-) Having the DM status 
allows you to do unsupervised uploads for certain packages (for which you 
convinced some DD to allow you to do so) and this is a great freedom of 
work.

In my (limited) experience, the most painful time within the packaging 
process is the wait-on-a-sponsor time (where you either search for a 
sponsor, ping your usual one, …) Getting rid of that period of time is just 
great IMHO (and that's absolutely not against my usual sponsors!).

So, apply for DM ! :-)

Cheers, 

OdyX



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RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-19 Thread Julien Viard de Galbert
Hello X Strike Force ;)

Recent message and blog post by Cyril Brulebois reminded me that the
openchrome video driver is still waiting for a sponsor.

The version in experimental basically have upstream latest svn version.
I also added a debug package (this need careful reviewing). As already
said last time, I want to ping open bugs and ask to test this version.

Now if this does not fit with having XServer 1.9 in experimental, maybe
this package should be hosted elsewhere... Just tell me.

Best Regards

Julien VdG

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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Julien!

(Not sure you're subscribed, keeping you in Cc just in case.)

Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org (19/10/2010):
 Recent message and blog post by Cyril Brulebois reminded me that the
 openchrome video driver is still waiting for a sponsor.

Sorry, I missed that, too many mails, too little time.

 The version in experimental basically have upstream latest svn
 version.  I also added a debug package (this need careful
 reviewing). As already said last time, I want to ping open bugs and
 ask to test this version.

Alright, will do as soon as I find some time.

 Now if this does not fit with having XServer 1.9 in experimental,
 maybe this package should be hosted elsewhere... Just tell me.

I could push what's currently in experimental as “autobuild-unstable”
to get it built against XServer 1.7 and tested by users; and also
upload it to experimental so that it gets built against XServer 1.9 as
other drivers; this way we get an almost complete set of drivers built
against XServer 1.9 with the latter, and we can still ask users for
feedback against XServer 1.7 with the former.

(We're going to have to wait for NEW anyway by uploading to the
official Debian archive, due to the debug package.)

Does that sound like a plan?

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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-19 Thread Julien Viard de Galbert
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:23:48PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Hi Julien!
 
 (Not sure you're subscribed, keeping you in Cc just in case.)

I am, so no need for next times ;)

 
 Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org (19/10/2010):
  Recent message and blog post by Cyril Brulebois reminded me that the
  openchrome video driver is still waiting for a sponsor.
 
 Sorry, I missed that, too many mails, too little time.
 
Yes I know, it was before you had high activity, probably still on
vacation, and I did not push that last time when we talked about the
amd64 bug.

  The version in experimental basically have upstream latest svn
  version.  I also added a debug package (this need careful
  reviewing). As already said last time, I want to ping open bugs and
  ask to test this version.
 
 Alright, will do as soon as I find some time.
 
Thanks.

  Now if this does not fit with having XServer 1.9 in experimental,
  maybe this package should be hosted elsewhere... Just tell me.
 
 I could push what's currently in experimental as “autobuild-unstable”
 to get it built against XServer 1.7 and tested by users; and also
 upload it to experimental so that it gets built against XServer 1.9 as
 other drivers; this way we get an almost complete set of drivers built
 against XServer 1.9 with the latter, and we can still ask users for
 feedback against XServer 1.7 with the former.
 
Yes, just read that on your blog ;)

 (We're going to have to wait for NEW anyway by uploading to the
 official Debian archive, due to the debug package.)
(So true, just forgot about that)
 
 Does that sound like a plan?

Yes, fine.

I could have published it on my own blog (as I did once) but I feel it 
needs to look a bit more official when it comes to asking user to 
install it.
Just tell me when it's there so I can start pinging bugs ;)

Regards

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Re: RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-10-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org (19/10/2010):
 I am, so no need for next times ;)

ACK. But I see:
| Mail-Followup-To: Julien Viard de Galbert jul...@vdg.blogsite.org, […]

  Alright, will do as soon as I find some time.
  
 Thanks.

Well, nothing to say besides it's alright. Did you consider applying
for the DM status or for the NM process?

 I could have published it on my own blog (as I did once) but I feel
 it needs to look a bit more official when it comes to asking user to
 install it.  Just tell me when it's there so I can start pinging
 bugs ;)

Available now in autobuild.ikibiki.org, in autobuild-unstable for the
build against XServer 1.7; upload to experimental will follow shortly.

(although that's not automated yet) the Release file is signed with my
current GPG key in the keyring (747935DD).

I think we want to look into pristine-tar to keep track of the
upstream tarballs built from svn snapshots, so that we don't need to
download them from the archive or from snapshot.debian.org when we
only have a git repository available. Do you want to look into it, or
do you want me to?

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RFS: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome_0.2.904+svn858-1

2010-09-07 Thread Julien Viard de Galbert
Hello Julien,

I just pushed a new experimental branch for openchrome.
This branch is based on the unstable package you just uploaded.
I added a debug package as this version in experimental will be used to
debug some of the new hardware (I plan to ping open bugs to test the
experimental package)
Please review it (and upload if it's fine) when you have time.

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