Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
Hugo van der Merwe wrote on Fri Sep 28, 2001 um 04:52:17PM:

> > xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
> > 2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.
> 
> I have 2.4.9. I will try playing with BIOS settings next time I

Okay, I was able to trace it back to kernel 2.2.19 and a side effect
caused by Hedricks IDE patch. See

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no\&bug=113810

> reboot... (Don't know when that will be.) Thanks. Any idea what specific
> setting it might be if I don't want to set evertyhing to fail-safe
> defaults? (fail-safe defaults will drop performance a bit, I'm sure?)

That problem did never appear with 2.4.x on my system.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Eduard Bloch

#include 
Hugo van der Merwe wrote on Fri Sep 28, 2001 um 04:52:17PM:

> > xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
> > 2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.
> 
> I have 2.4.9. I will try playing with BIOS settings next time I

Okay, I was able to trace it back to kernel 2.2.19 and a side effect
caused by Hedricks IDE patch. See

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no\&bug=113810

> reboot... (Don't know when that will be.) Thanks. Any idea what specific
> setting it might be if I don't want to set evertyhing to fail-safe
> defaults? (fail-safe defaults will drop performance a bit, I'm sure?)

That problem did never appear with 2.4.x on my system.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
> I could reproduce it a while ago with kernel 2.2.19. After loading
> fail-safe setting in my BIOS, the problem disappeared. I still suspect
> xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
> 2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.

I have 2.4.9. I will try playing with BIOS settings next time I
reboot... (Don't know when that will be.) Thanks. Any idea what specific
setting it might be if I don't want to set evertyhing to fail-safe
defaults? (fail-safe defaults will drop performance a bit, I'm sure?)

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe



Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
Eduard Bloch wrote:

> Hugo van der Merwe wrote on Thu Sep 27, 2001 um 06:43:17PM:
> 
> > then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> > My Serial mouse still works though...
> 
> I could reproduce it a while ago with kernel 2.2.19. After loading
> fail-safe setting in my BIOS, the problem disappeared. I still suspect
> xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
> 2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.

And your conclusion is that the X server is buggy?


> > perfectly again. Any ideas how I can debug this? I think I will try
> > enabling dual-mouse support in gpm and using it's repeater... I dodn't
> 
> I was using the repeater. Did not help.

All the more I highly doubt it can be the X server's fault.


We've had similar problems with a box in the office and we finally returned
it. You're lucky if you can fix it with certain kernels or fiddling in the
BIOS. ;)


PS: This thread has been OT here all along, so if there need to be followups,
I suggest they are directed to the appropriate places.

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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast



Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Hugo van der Merwe

> I could reproduce it a while ago with kernel 2.2.19. After loading
> fail-safe setting in my BIOS, the problem disappeared. I still suspect
> xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
> 2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.

I have 2.4.9. I will try playing with BIOS settings next time I
reboot... (Don't know when that will be.) Thanks. Any idea what specific
setting it might be if I don't want to set evertyhing to fail-safe
defaults? (fail-safe defaults will drop performance a bit, I'm sure?)

Thanks,
Hugo van der Merwe


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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Michel Dänzer

Eduard Bloch wrote:

> Hugo van der Merwe wrote on Thu Sep 27, 2001 um 06:43:17PM:
> 
> > then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> > My Serial mouse still works though...
> 
> I could reproduce it a while ago with kernel 2.2.19. After loading
> fail-safe setting in my BIOS, the problem disappeared. I still suspect
> xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
> 2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.

And your conclusion is that the X server is buggy?


> > perfectly again. Any ideas how I can debug this? I think I will try
> > enabling dual-mouse support in gpm and using it's repeater... I dodn't
> 
> I was using the repeater. Did not help.

All the more I highly doubt it can be the X server's fault.


We've had similar problems with a box in the office and we finally returned
it. You're lucky if you can fix it with certain kernels or fiddling in the
BIOS. ;)


PS: This thread has been OT here all along, so if there need to be followups,
I suggest they are directed to the appropriate places.

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XFree86 and DRI project member   /  CS student, Free Software enthusiast


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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
Hugo van der Merwe wrote on Thu Sep 27, 2001 um 06:43:17PM:

> then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> My Serial mouse still works though...

I could reproduce it a while ago with kernel 2.2.19. After loading
fail-safe setting in my BIOS, the problem disappeared. I still suspect
xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.

> perfectly again. Any ideas how I can debug this? I think I will try
> enabling dual-mouse support in gpm and using it's repeater... I dodn't

I was using the repeater. Did not help.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-28 Thread Eduard Bloch

#include 
Hugo van der Merwe wrote on Thu Sep 27, 2001 um 06:43:17PM:

> then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> My Serial mouse still works though...

I could reproduce it a while ago with kernel 2.2.19. After loading
fail-safe setting in my BIOS, the problem disappeared. I still suspect
xserver-xfree86 to be buggy, the problem did never appear with kernel
2.4 and did not appear after playing with BIOS on these day.

> perfectly again. Any ideas how I can debug this? I think I will try
> enabling dual-mouse support in gpm and using it's repeater... I dodn't

I was using the repeater. Did not help.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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jemanden zu treffen, der einen SuSE-Karton unter dem Arm trägt.
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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-27 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
> > then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> > My Serial mouse still works though...
> 
> Are you running gpm too?

Yes. gpm is configured to use Serial mouse only. That should mean it
won't interfere. OK, further results: I used gpm's repeater option, and
had X read /dev/gpmdata (ok, "Generic Mouse" was also there, but that
shouldn't cause any problems?

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

as set up by xserver-xfree86's postinst)

The mouse and keyboard locked up again, serial mouse was still working.
After killing X, it was still the case. Only after stopping gpm did my
keyboard come back to me. (It doesn't lock up immediately, it locks up a
couple of minutes or what into the X session.)

Hugo van der Merwe



Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-27 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 06:43:17PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> I have this odd problem that if I enable my PS/2 mouse
> 
> then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> My Serial mouse still works though...
> 

Are you running gpm too?

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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-27 Thread Hugo van der Merwe

> > then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> > My Serial mouse still works though...
> 
> Are you running gpm too?

Yes. gpm is configured to use Serial mouse only. That should mean it
won't interfere. OK, further results: I used gpm's repeater option, and
had X read /dev/gpmdata (ok, "Generic Mouse" was also there, but that
shouldn't cause any problems?

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

as set up by xserver-xfree86's postinst)

The mouse and keyboard locked up again, serial mouse was still working.
After killing X, it was still the case. Only after stopping gpm did my
keyboard come back to me. (It doesn't lock up immediately, it locks up a
couple of minutes or what into the X session.)

Hugo van der Merwe


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Re: Keyboard and PS/2 Mouse lockup in X if PS/2 mouse active

2001-09-27 Thread Paul Hedderly

On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 06:43:17PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote:
> I have this odd problem that if I enable my PS/2 mouse
> 
> then after a few minutes my keyboard and PS/2 mouse become unresponsive.
> My Serial mouse still works though...
> 

Are you running gpm too?

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