Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-28 Thread Dave Swegen
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:14:46PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
  Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
  or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
  allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
  filing it as a bug against those two packages.
 
 wdm will use your .xsession.  In the Start WM menu, select Default.
 
 wdm will remember your previous selection, so if you've selected one of
 the other available options, you'll continue seeing the behavior
 selected until you select something else.  That might be why you're
 seeing something other than what you expect.

Ah, so it does. Thanks for enlightening me. I'll be feeling guilty all
of five minutes now for thinking ill of your package :)

Cheers
Dave


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-27 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
 Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
 or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
 allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
 filing it as a bug against those two packages.

wdm will use your .xsession.  In the Start WM menu, select Default.

wdm will remember your previous selection, so if you've selected one of
the other available options, you'll continue seeing the behavior
selected until you select something else.  That might be why you're
seeing something other than what you expect.

noah
(wdm maintainer)

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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-25 Thread Martijn van de Streek
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Branden Robinson wrote:

 gdm ignores it, too.

Wait a minute.

I've had both gdm and kdm read my .xsession by choosing the 'Default' or
'Debian' session. If you choose 'Gnome' or 'KDE' (or failsafe for that
matter), it'll just start the session manager for the chosen desktop
environment.
 
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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-25 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:17:13 -0500
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 gdm ignores it, too.
 
 I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
 various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
 managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
 gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).

WDM, by default, uses ~/.xsession. He may have an ~/.xinitrc

Both GDM and KDM let you choose the Xsession session (or something like
it), which does indeed use what you've got :)

Thanks, BTW, it is what I use. And I use GDM. :)

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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-25 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:30:48 +0100
Dave Swegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice to know I'm not going mad (or being overly stupid). Have to say
 that well and truly sucks. Oh well, I'll stick to xdm (I have an
 irrational, pathological dislike of everything gtk and gnome ;).

Well, if you are going mad, both you and Branden are ;)

Anyways, if you want to use GDM, use the Debian or Default session.
It'll use Branden's scripts. Or at the very least, ~/.xsession :)

WDM over here uses ~/.xsession without any issues (or prompting). Dunno
what the deal on that end is.

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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-25 Thread David B Harris

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:17:13 -0500
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 gdm ignores it, too.
 
 I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
 various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
 managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
 gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).

WDM, by default, uses ~/.xsession. He may have an ~/.xinitrc

Both GDM and KDM let you choose the Xsession session (or something like
it), which does indeed use what you've got :)

Thanks, BTW, it is what I use. And I use GDM. :)

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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-25 Thread David B Harris

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 18:30:48 +0100
Dave Swegen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice to know I'm not going mad (or being overly stupid). Have to say
 that well and truly sucks. Oh well, I'll stick to xdm (I have an
 irrational, pathological dislike of everything gtk and gnome ;).

Well, if you are going mad, both you and Branden are ;)

Anyways, if you want to use GDM, use the Debian or Default session.
It'll use Branden's scripts. Or at the very least, ~/.xsession :)

WDM over here uses ~/.xsession without any issues (or prompting). Dunno
what the deal on that end is.

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kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Dave Swegen
Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
filing it as a bug against those two packages.

Cheers
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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
 Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
 or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
 allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
 filing it as a bug against those two packages.

gdm ignores it, too.

I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).

Oh well.

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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Stuart Ballard

Branden Robinson wrote:

gdm ignores it, too.

I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).


I use gdm and last time I tried it worked fine if you select Debian 
from the Session menu in gdm. Sucks that it's not the default, but it 
isn't exactly at gunpoint, at least.


I can't speak for any of the others, and I'm just a user anyway.

Stuart.


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Dave Swegen
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:17:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
  Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
  or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
  allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
  filing it as a bug against those two packages.
 
 gdm ignores it, too.
 
 I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
 various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
 managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
 gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).
 
 Oh well.

Nice to know I'm not going mad (or being overly stupid). Have to say
that well and truly sucks. Oh well, I'll stick to xdm (I have an
irrational, pathological dislike of everything gtk and gnome ;).

Cheers
Dave


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Rich Rudnick
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:17:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
  Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either
  kdm or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options
  contains allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check
  here before filing it as a bug against those two packages.
 
 gdm ignores it, too.
 
 I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
 various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
 managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
 gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).
 
 Oh well.

Nice to know I'm not going mad (or being overly stupid). Have to say
that
well and truly sucks. Oh well, I'll stick to xdm (I have an irrational,
pathological dislike of everything gtk and gnome ;).



(So sorry about breaking threads and quoting, but I read this as a news
group)

I've been messing with garnome, and have been using gdm to log in to it.
~/.Xsession definitely works, .xsession didn't if I recall correctly.


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:21:57PM -0400, Stuart Ballard wrote:
 Branden Robinson wrote:
  gdm ignores it, too.
  
  I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
  various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
  managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
  gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).
 
 I use gdm and last time I tried it worked fine if you select Debian 
 from the Session menu in gdm. Sucks that it's not the default, but it 
 isn't exactly at gunpoint, at least.

I considered that a feature, or am I doing something wrong? I switched to
gdm with my fresh installation, I can start KDE and Gnome when I pick it in
gdm, and I can start fvwm when I pick Debian. And after you used that once,
it stays as the default. Now what am I doing wrong? I really like it the way
it is (even though I don't use KDE or Gnome, but I could). It might be nicer
if there were an fvwm, or fvwm95, or whatnot selection, though. It did take
me some time figure out why fvwm would not run anymore with the fresh
install and it would be good if it was fixed (in gdm) or at least documented.
But its working for me now.

Christian


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Stuart Ballard

Branden Robinson wrote:
 gdm ignores it, too.
 
 I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
 various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
 managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
 gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).

I use gdm and last time I tried it worked fine if you select Debian 
from the Session menu in gdm. Sucks that it's not the default, but it 
isn't exactly at gunpoint, at least.

I can't speak for any of the others, and I'm just a user anyway.

Stuart.


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Dave Swegen

On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:17:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
  Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either kdm
  or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options contains
  allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check here before
  filing it as a bug against those two packages.
 
 gdm ignores it, too.
 
 I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
 various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
 managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
 gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).
 
 Oh well.

Nice to know I'm not going mad (or being overly stupid). Have to say
that well and truly sucks. Oh well, I'll stick to xdm (I have an
irrational, pathological dislike of everything gtk and gnome ;).

Cheers
Dave


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Rich Rudnick

On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 12:17:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:54:06PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote:
  Not sure if I'm being thick here (probably), but I can't get either
  kdm or wdm to read ~/.xsession. /etc/X11/Xsession/Xsession.options
  contains allow-user-xsession, and xdm works fine. Thought I'd check
  here before filing it as a bug against those two packages.
 
 gdm ignores it, too.
 
 I went to all this trouble to make session management nice for the
 various and sundry desktops in Debian, and then all the other display
 managers force people into the corresponding desktop environment at
 gunpoint (because that's what upstream does).
 
 Oh well.

Nice to know I'm not going mad (or being overly stupid). Have to say
that
well and truly sucks. Oh well, I'll stick to xdm (I have an irrational,
pathological dislike of everything gtk and gnome ;).



(So sorry about breaking threads and quoting, but I read this as a news
group)

I've been messing with garnome, and have been using gdm to log in to it.
~/.Xsession definitely works, .xsession didn't if I recall correctly.


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Re: kdm/wdm and ~/.xsession

2002-06-24 Thread Martijn van de Streek

On Mon, 24 Jun 2002, Branden Robinson wrote:

 gdm ignores it, too.

Wait a minute.

I've had both gdm and kdm read my .xsession by choosing the 'Default' or
'Debian' session. If you choose 'Gnome' or 'KDE' (or failsafe for that
matter), it'll just start the session manager for the chosen desktop
environment.
 
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