status of the 7.4 transition, take 2

2009-08-03 Thread Julien Cristau
Status update.

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 14:44:55 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:

 Hi,
 
 now that (almost) all drivers have been rebuilt, I'd like to get an
 overview of where we stand with regards to testing migration.  This
 means two things: dependencies on non-xorg stuff that has to migrate
 first, and blocker bugs in our packages.

 On the first point, the deps I know of are linux-2.6 and console-setup.
 The former has been recently fixed to build on all architectures, so
 should hopefully be able to migrate soon enough.  The latter needs some
 aging, but has no outstanding issues afaik.

console-setup has migrated a while ago, linux-2.6 had a new upload today
which will hopefully be able to make it to testing.

 On the second point I'm not quite sure:
 - xorg-server has one outstanding serious bug, #508476: when
   xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is installed and you have no xorg.conf, X
   FatalErrors for no good reason.  Should this be a blocker?  Anything
   else?

This is fixed (well, worked around, but that's good enough).

 - xorg has #516028, #527860, #524657; I don't think any of those should
   be blockers, what do others think.  Anything else?

516028 and 527860 are closed, 524657 downgraded and tagged moreinfo.

 - then there's the intel driver situation.  2.7.0 was pretty broken from
   what I understand, I have no idea where things stand in 2.7.1 or
   2.7.99.x.  There's one critical (!) bug filed against 2.7.99.1, which
   should probably be downgraded to grave or important.  Then there's 3
   grave bugs.  #523953 was filed against 2.6.3, then 2.7.0, has no data
   about 2.7.1.  #525231 was filed against 2.7.0, no info about 2.7.1.
   #526169 is a jidanni bug, but has at least one other affected user;
   seems a bit confused to me, might actually be a kernel bug, so would
   be nice to have updated info, with latest linux-2.6 and -intel.
   Any others that aren't filed as RC?

2.8.0 seems better.  #525231 is still open/RC, but with no info about
2.8.0 IIRC.

 - any known major issues in other packages?
 
There's the libXi bugs (515734, 515905, 515976, 515946), which afaict
nobody has been able to investigate yet.  Shouldn't be blockers though I
think.

Overall after linux-2.6 migrates I think we're good to go.

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: status of the 7.4 transition

2009-05-21 Thread David Nusinow

Thanks for managing this Julien.

Julien Cristau wrote:

On the second point I'm not quite sure:
- xorg-server has one outstanding serious bug, #508476: when
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is installed and you have no xorg.conf, X
  FatalErrors for no good reason.  Should this be a blocker?  Anything
  else?
  


Yuck. One thing we might want to do is install an empty xorg.conf by 
default. Since the codepaths for no xorg.conf and empty xorg.conf are 
slightly different, this might help us. If we can get a bug reporter to 
confirm that this solves the issue then it'd be a simple fix. It's also 
in line with where things need to go, since eventually no/empty 
xorg.conf needs to be just a special case for the partial-config setup.


- David Nusinow


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Re: status of the 7.4 transition

2009-05-19 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 19:19 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
 On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 18:55:43 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 14:44 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
   
   - xorg-server has one outstanding serious bug, #508476: when
 
 Actually its current severity is grave, not serious.
 
 xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is installed and you have no xorg.conf, X
 FatalErrors for no good reason.  Should this be a blocker?
  
  Probably? It seems quite likely for -fbdev to be installed, and I think
  we're encouraging people to run without xorg.conf?
  
 Seems fair.  I haven't had time to investigate this yet, unfortunately;
 I guess I could add the help tag.

Do you have any idea which change caused the problem?


   - any known major issues in other packages?
  
  In xserver-xorg-core, the default value of Option ExaOptimizeMigration
  should probably be changed to off. I tried to discuss this with both
  upstream 1.6 maintainers, but the first one mocked me and the second one
  ignored me...
  
 I just pushed a patch for this, thanks for reminding me.  Also added to
 the Server16Branch wiki page, in the hope of getting a real decision.

Thanks Julien.


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status of the 7.4 transition

2009-05-18 Thread Julien Cristau
Hi,

now that (almost) all drivers have been rebuilt, I'd like to get an
overview of where we stand with regards to testing migration.  This
means two things: dependencies on non-xorg stuff that has to migrate
first, and blocker bugs in our packages.

On the first point, the deps I know of are linux-2.6 and console-setup.
The former has been recently fixed to build on all architectures, so
should hopefully be able to migrate soon enough.  The latter needs some
aging, but has no outstanding issues afaik.

On the second point I'm not quite sure:
- xorg-server has one outstanding serious bug, #508476: when
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is installed and you have no xorg.conf, X
  FatalErrors for no good reason.  Should this be a blocker?  Anything
  else?
- xorg has #516028, #527860, #524657; I don't think any of those should
  be blockers, what do others think.  Anything else?
- then there's the intel driver situation.  2.7.0 was pretty broken from
  what I understand, I have no idea where things stand in 2.7.1 or
  2.7.99.x.  There's one critical (!) bug filed against 2.7.99.1, which
  should probably be downgraded to grave or important.  Then there's 3
  grave bugs.  #523953 was filed against 2.6.3, then 2.7.0, has no data
  about 2.7.1.  #525231 was filed against 2.7.0, no info about 2.7.1.
  #526169 is a jidanni bug, but has at least one other affected user;
  seems a bit confused to me, might actually be a kernel bug, so would
  be nice to have updated info, with latest linux-2.6 and -intel.
  Any others that aren't filed as RC?
- any known major issues in other packages?

Cheers,
Julien


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Re: status of the 7.4 transition

2009-05-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 14:44 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
 
 - xorg-server has one outstanding serious bug, #508476: when
   xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is installed and you have no xorg.conf, X
   FatalErrors for no good reason.  Should this be a blocker?

Probably? It seems quite likely for -fbdev to be installed, and I think
we're encouraging people to run without xorg.conf?


 - any known major issues in other packages?

In xserver-xorg-core, the default value of Option ExaOptimizeMigration
should probably be changed to off. I tried to discuss this with both
upstream 1.6 maintainers, but the first one mocked me and the second one
ignored me...


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Re: status of the 7.4 transition

2009-05-18 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 18:55:43 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:

 On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 14:44 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
  
  - xorg-server has one outstanding serious bug, #508476: when

Actually its current severity is grave, not serious.

xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is installed and you have no xorg.conf, X
FatalErrors for no good reason.  Should this be a blocker?
 
 Probably? It seems quite likely for -fbdev to be installed, and I think
 we're encouraging people to run without xorg.conf?
 
Seems fair.  I haven't had time to investigate this yet, unfortunately;
I guess I could add the help tag.

  - any known major issues in other packages?
 
 In xserver-xorg-core, the default value of Option ExaOptimizeMigration
 should probably be changed to off. I tried to discuss this with both
 upstream 1.6 maintainers, but the first one mocked me and the second one
 ignored me...
 
I just pushed a patch for this, thanks for reminding me.  Also added to
the Server16Branch wiki page, in the hope of getting a real decision.

Cheers,
Julien


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