[Declude.JunkMail] How did this one get through

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Foulks

I have this email address blocked

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Yet it is still getting passed my Declude Scanner. Can anyone help with this?


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: A special  good tool
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X-Weight: 0
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from  ([209.142.2.45]).

Thanks,
Greg
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[Declude.JunkMail] FW: Morning update for the Kill file

2002-08-12 Thread Steven



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Here is one to add to your kill list.

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 @forum.dk ID-20020812-000319
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How did this one get through

2002-08-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


I have this email address blocked

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yet it is still getting passed my Declude Scanner. Can anyone help with this?

Where is it blocked?  In a sender blacklist (fromfile)?  Are other 
blocked E-mail addresses getting blocked?

Do you have any whitelists that would allow the E-mail through (which would 
override any blacklists)?
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How did this one get through

2002-08-12 Thread Greg Foulks

It's in the sender blacklist... and it's is not in my whitelist.

greg

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I have this email address blocked

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yet it is still getting passed my Declude Scanner. Can anyone help with this?

Where is it blocked?  In a sender blacklist (fromfile)?  Are other 
blocked E-mail addresses getting blocked?

Do you have any whitelists that would allow the E-mail through (which would 
override any blacklists)?
-Scott

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DSN:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Morning update for the Declude Kill list 08/09/02

2002-08-12 Thread Ed McNichols








Thanks for the Utility Scott MacLean !!, I set it up this AM Works great.






Ed McNichols, MCP
Archiventure, Inc.
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http://www.archiventure.net
Tel. 570.253.1986
Fax. 570.253.4343




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Behalf Of Scott MacLean
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Morning update for the Declude Kill list 08/09/02



I liked this idea so much (of a downloadable spam
domain file) that I wrote a small utility that automatically downloaded the
full list, incorporated it into my own list and wrote out a combined list.
Anyone who wants to use it is welcome:

http://www.nerosoft.com/Files/KillListGenInst.exe

Once installed, it creates a config file named KillListGen.txt that must be in
the same directory as the EXE file. It looks like this:

' Configuration file for Kill List Generator - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

' URL to retrieve list of current spam addresses/domains
ListURL=http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/fromfile.txt

' Source file of local addresses you wish to keep on the list permanently.
' Comment out if no local address list is used.
SourceFile=c:\IMail\Declude\Source.txt

' Destination file that IMail reads which will be combined Source file and
retrieved list
DestFile=c:\IMail\Declude\Destination.txt


The first line ListURL specifies the URL to download the list from.
The second line SourceFile specifies the local path of a file
containing your own address/domain list that you want incorporated into the
final list. The third line DestFile specifies the local path of the
destination file it's all written to, and should be the Blacklist file that
Declude is looking for.

I've got mine running on a schedule, updating twice a day.

At 06:17 PM 8/9/2002, Tom wrote:




You can download the full list from the following URL:
http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog/fromfile.txt

This list is not provided by the authors of DECLUDE.
However, it is just an optional file you can use to block
potential or known spam sites. To get more information
on using Blacklists with Declude please visit the
following URL: http://www.declude.com/JunkMail/manual.htm

Regards,
Tom
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How did this one get through

2002-08-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


It's in the sender blacklist...

Is the sender blacklist set up properly (are other blacklisted 
domains/addresses working properly)?  What does the line look like in your 
sender blacklist file?

  and it's is not in my whitelist.

Do you have any whitelist entries?  Often, mistakes are made such as 
whitelisting all mail from Hotmail because mail.com was whitelisted.
 -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Console question

2002-08-12 Thread Stic.Net

I've been curious about how messages show up in the Declude Console as they stream 
through.
In the top third of the console window messages are labeled as I, O, IS, OS, IV, or OV 
(I assume these standing for incoming/outgoing, SPAM, and Virus).  
Here's my question:
If a message shows up as IS or OS does this mean it has failed *any* SPAM test, or has 
it failed enough tests to be deleted (or held or bounced)?  I work for a medium-sized 
ISP and about 75-80% of the 200,000 messages going through every day are showing up as 
IS or OS.  I've set up fairly aggressive filtering and all mail that fails the 
WEIGHT10 test gets deleted.  I'm considering easing the tests if indeed 75-80% of our 
users' mail is getting deleted.  However, if this only means that 75-80% of the mail 
is failing one of the tests (but not necessarily getting deleted) then I think I'll 
keep the test settings the same.
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Console question

2002-08-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


I've been curious about how messages show up in the Declude Console as 
they stream through.
In the top third of the console window messages are labeled as I, O, IS, 
OS, IV, or OV (I assume these standing for incoming/outgoing, SPAM, and 
Virus).

That is correct.

Here's my question:
If a message shows up as IS or OS does this mean it has failed *any* SPAM 
test, or has it failed enough tests to be deleted (or held or bounced)?

It means that it has failed any spam test.  So even if the E-mail just 
fails the SPAMHEADERS test, for example, it would show up with an S in 
the Declude Console.
 -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Feature Request, Declude Console

2002-08-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

Request to be able to view the console via terminal services.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature Request, Declude Console

2002-08-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


Request to be able to view the console via terminal services.

As soon as we find out why Microsoft won't display the console via terminal 
services, we'll do our best to take care of that request.  :)

The problem is that there doesn't seem to be any logical reason why it does 
not display.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature Request, Declude Console

2002-08-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

I just got an idea, I will try it and report.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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Request to be able to view the console via terminal services.

As soon as we find out why Microsoft won't display the console via
terminal 
services, we'll do our best to take care of that request.  :)

The problem is that there doesn't seem to be any logical reason why it
does 
not display.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature Request, Declude Console

2002-08-12 Thread Charles Frolick

From what I have read, in Win2k terminal services cannot connect to the
console session, however the next release of server will include this
capability, so will have remote control rather than a mere terminal. Many
programs have the same issue since the default action for a service that
intereacts with the desktop (i.e. when smtpd32.exe, a service, kicks off
declude, which opens console, it all happens under the same context as
smtpd32.exe), is to open it only in the console session.  My DNS server has
the same issue with it's built in monitor app.

Chuck Frolick
ArgoNet, Inc.


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Request to be able to view the console via terminal services.

As soon as we find out why Microsoft won't display the console via terminal
services, we'll do our best to take care of that request.  :)

The problem is that there doesn't seem to be any logical reason why it does
not display.
 -Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail]

2002-08-12 Thread Stic.Net

Messages originating from a mailto script from one of our webservers are failing the 
spamheaders and badheaders tests.
Here's what I get from Declude's site:

Code: c020020c. The E-mail failed the BADHEADERS and SPAMHEADERS tests.
This E-mail has a bogus Date: header.


Here's the full header info from the message (with the email address changed):

Received: from computer [204.57.118.20] by imail.stic.net
  (SMTPD32-7.12) id A6E4AB2028E; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:08 -0500
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SARA Relocation
Message-Id: 200208121405609.SM02260@computer
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail client [c020020c].
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam [c020020c].
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 15 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.
X-Declude-Spoolname: D06e40ab2028e3d43.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS, SPAMHEADERS, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT5
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:20 -0500
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 326891288 

Can someone explain to me why the Date: header is faulty (or send me a link that would 
explain it)?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm kinda new to this.

Thanks.
Bart Lackorn
STIC.NET

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail]

2002-08-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


Messages originating from a mailto script from one of our webservers are 
failing the spamheaders and badheaders tests.

That's fairly common -- huge numbers of web scripts are out there that 
don't follow the standard SMTP rules.

Here's the full header info from the message (with the email address changed):

Received: from computer [204.57.118.20] by imail.stic.net
   (SMTPD32-7.12) id A6E4AB2028E; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:08 -0500
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SARA Relocation

Note that there is no Date: or Message-ID: header (I removed the headers 
that were added by Declude and IMail).  The lack of a Date: header breaks 
RFC-compliancy (and causes much of the E-mail to get lost).  The missing 
Message-ID: header is legal, but only allowed under certain circumstances.

Can someone explain to me why the Date: header is faulty (or send me a 
link that would explain it)?

The catch is that IMail adds the Date: and Message-ID: headers if they are 
present (anything after the first Declude header is something that either 
Declude or IMail added).
-Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail]

2002-08-12 Thread Stic.Net


Note that there is no Date: or Message-ID: header (I removed the headers 
that were added by Declude and IMail).  The lack of a Date: header breaks 
RFC-compliancy (and causes much of the E-mail to get lost).  The missing 
Message-ID: header is legal, but only allowed under certain circumstances.

So I just need to get the webserver to stamp a date and a message-ID on it before it 
hits Imail?

Thanks (and sorry for forgetting to put a subject on this thread)
Bart
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail]

2002-08-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

http://www.declude.com/tools/header.php


John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stic.Net
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] 

Messages originating from a mailto script from one of our webservers are
failing the spamheaders and badheaders tests.
Here's what I get from Declude's site:

Code: c020020c. The E-mail failed the BADHEADERS and SPAMHEADERS tests.
This E-mail has a bogus Date: header.


Here's the full header info from the message (with the email address
changed):

Received: from computer [204.57.118.20] by imail.stic.net
  (SMTPD32-7.12) id A6E4AB2028E; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:08 -0500
From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SARA Relocation
Message-Id: 200208121405609.SM02260@computer
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail
client [c020020c].
X-RBL-Warning: SPAMHEADERS: This E-mail has headers consistent with spam
[c020020c].
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 15 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
X-Declude-Spoolname: D06e40ab2028e3d43.SMD
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com)
for spam.
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: BADHEADERS, SPAMHEADERS, WEIGHT10, WEIGHT5
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 14:05:20 -0500
X-RCPT-TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status: U
X-UIDL: 326891288 

Can someone explain to me why the Date: header is faulty (or send me a
link that would explain it)?

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I'm kinda new to this.

Thanks.
Bart Lackorn
STIC.NET

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] FW: Morning update for the Kill file

2002-08-12 Thread Tom


 Here is one to add to your kill list.
 
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  @forum.dk ID-20020812-000319
  --

Although I can not read the web site language, it appears
to be a legitimate Mail Service.  So I would be cautious
about blocking their site.  Also, if you are going to use
the number scheme I have been using, you should try not
using numbers that are already assigned.  Just refer to
my list or don't even add the Identifier when sending it
to the Declude list.  This will prevent conflicts and
allow us to keep the list in order.

Regards,
Tom
Image`fx
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Downloadable list

2002-08-12 Thread Tom



 I liked this idea so much (of a downloadable spam domain file) 
 that I wrote a small utility that automatically downloaded the
 full list, incorporated it into my own list and wrote out a 
 combined list. Anyone who wants to use it is welcome:

 http://www.nerosoft.com/Files/KillListGenInst.exe

Cool idea, but that does place more pressure on me to
keep the list up to date... 

PS: I hope you don't mind if I download it and post it 
on our web site.  http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog
That is as soon as I get a chance.  Perhaps Scott will 
do the same.

Regards,
Tom
Image`fx


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Downloadable list

2002-08-12 Thread Scott MacLean

At 04:36 PM 8/12/2002, Tom wrote:
 I liked this idea so much (of
a downloadable spam domain file) 
 that I wrote a small utility that automatically downloaded the
 full list, incorporated it into my own list and wrote out a 
 combined list. Anyone who wants to use it is welcome:

http://www.nerosoft.com/Files/KillListGenInst.exe
Cool idea, but that does place more pressure on me to
keep the list up to date... 
Well, you can always point the URL to someone else's online list.
:) Hm, that said, perhaps it should be able to handle multiple source
lists, to combine them all...

PS: I hope you don't
mind if I download it and post it 
 on our web site.
http://www.imagefxonline.net/apps/delog
 That is as soon as I get a chance. Perhaps Scott
will 
 do the same.
Of course, go right ahead.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DSN:filter test addition

2002-08-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


Is it correct that if the filter file has

subject   1contains 
body  1contains 

and the global.cfg file has   ...\filter.txt x  1 0

That the total of a failed test would be  3

In other words each test section failed in the filter.txt file will count
towards the total. But the phrase used will get counted only once per
section failed.

That is correct.  In this case, an E-mail with  in both the subject 
and body would get a weight of 3 (although an E-mail with  only in 
the body, like this E-mail, would get a weight of 2).
 -Scott

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