[Declude.JunkMail] Reject Msg based on Size

2003-02-02 Thread Roger Heath
Scott, I just had an MIT engineer/user suggest a feature to reject
messages based on their size. I found this fascinating personally.

You could look at the size and bounce, e.g.

SIZE  10MB  BOUNCE

Might be a server saver also... especially if it bounced a
partial response smaller message.

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IP Black List

2003-02-02 Thread R. Scott Perry


I have been trying to get the IP Black list file to function properly. 
Below are the settings I am using..

GLOBAL.CFG
IPFILE fromfile d:\imail\declude\ipblacklist.txt x 20 0

The "fromfile" test type is only for return addresses (E-mail addresses), 
not IP addresses.  If you change it to:

IPFILE ipfile d:\imail\declude\ipblacklist.txt x 20 0

then it should work.

One last thing once its working. If I lookup a class of IP's and it seems 
to be owned by a clearing house for SP*AM would it be advisable to add 
209.50.0.1/8 to the list ?

*If* it appears as though all the IPs in the range belong to the spammer, yes.

But, there are often cases where an IP of a known spammer gets listed, but 
there are legitimate mailers in the same Class C range, so you do have to 
be careful.

If you aren't very familiar with CIDR ranges, you can use the tool at 
http://www.DNSstuff.com -- for example, you can enter "209.50.0.1/8", and 
it will show that it covers 209.0.0.0 through 209.255.255.255.
-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] IP Black List

2003-02-02 Thread David Barrett



I have been trying to get the IP Black list file to 
function properly. Below are the settings I am using..
 
GLOBAL.CFG
IPFILE fromfile d:\imail\declude\ipblacklist.txt x 
20 0
 
DEFAULT.JUNKMAIL
IPFILE  HOLD
 
I added my IP address to the IPFile and sent a test 
message with no luck except my service provider failed RDNS.
 
Any thoughts ?
 
One last thing once its working. If I lookup a 
class of IP's and it seems to be owned by a clearing house for SP*AM would 
it be advisable to add 209.50.0.1/8 to the list ?
 
 
 
 
David BarrettMaine Connect, Inc
" I'd rather be a failure at something I enjoy than 
be a success at something I hate "-- George Burns


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

OK.  I'll leave you alone for the rest of today .

BTW, HiJack has trapped over 500 pieces of SPAM this weekend for 2 domains
whose Primary MX's have been up and running the entire time.  JunkMail got
another 400+ for 1 of those domains.  Just shows how the spammers are going
after the secondary MX's.

George

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>I would like to be able to filter on the domain names of mailservers in 
>the chain. In this case I would like to have an entry such as
>
>WHATEVER CONTAINS .aebolts.com (Where WHATEVER is a valid filter 
>screening criteria for the mailservers in the chain).  I know I can use 
>HEADER for this but is there a parameter I've missed that would let me 
>have these checked as JunkMail is parsing to do its thing on each of 
>the hops.  I have HOPHIGH 6 in my GLOBAL.CFG.

No, there isn't any other parameter aside from HEADERS that you could 
filter on in this case.  Although Declude JunkMail does look at the server 
names, the only one it cares about is one corresponding to the remote 
mailserver (the HELO parameter in filtering).

In this case, I would recommend using something like:

 HEADERS  5  CONTAINS  .aebolts.com (

Adding the "(" there should prevent virtually all other headers from 
triggering the filter (for example, you could have "Subject: We have to do 
something about these .aebolts.com E-mails!" that wouldn't get 
caught).  It's not quite as accurate as it would be if there was a 
parameter that just searched the server names, but it's pretty close.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Question

2003-02-02 Thread R. Scott Perry


I would like to be able to filter on the domain names of mailservers in the
chain. In this case I would like to have an entry such as

WHATEVER CONTAINS .aebolts.com (Where WHATEVER is a valid filter screening
criteria for the mailservers in the chain).  I know I can use HEADER for
this but is there a parameter I've missed that would let me have these
checked as JunkMail is parsing to do its thing on each of the hops.  I have
HOPHIGH 6 in my GLOBAL.CFG.


No, there isn't any other parameter aside from HEADERS that you could 
filter on in this case.  Although Declude JunkMail does look at the server 
names, the only one it cares about is one corresponding to the remote 
mailserver (the HELO parameter in filtering).

In this case, I would recommend using something like:

HEADERS  5  CONTAINS  .aebolts.com (

Adding the "(" there should prevent virtually all other headers from 
triggering the filter (for example, you could have "Subject: We have to do 
something about these .aebolts.com E-mails!" that wouldn't get 
caught).  It's not quite as accurate as it would be if there was a 
parameter that just searched the server names, but it's pretty close.
-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] Filter Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Hi Scott,

Nothing like a quiet Sunday morning to get the questions going.

I have a filter question and will use the following header to explain.  The
e-mail is being handled correctly by JunkMail according to the GLOBAL.CFG
settings

I would like to be able to filter on the domain names of mailservers in the
chain. In this case I would like to have an entry such as 

WHATEVER CONTAINS .aebolts.com (Where WHATEVER is a valid filter screening
criteria for the mailservers in the chain).  I know I can use HEADER for
this but is there a parameter I've missed that would let me have these
checked as JunkMail is parsing to do its thing on each of the hops.  I have
HOPHIGH 6 in my GLOBAL.CFG.

I realize that this particular piece of SPAM has been identified as such by
many other tests, but that's not the question here.

As always, thanks for the time.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Enhancement

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Thanks again Scott.

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Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Enhancement



>I find that HiJack catches a meaningful amount of SPAM for the store 
>and forward domains and probably also helps out on Dictionary Attacks 
>as well. It seems like some spammers deliberately target secondary MX's 
>with the thought that they can sneak stuff through more easily.

Yes, many spammers have caught on that sending to secondary MX's makes it 
more likely that the E-mail will not get caught.

>It appears that HiJack keeps it records in memory and, if there's a 
>restart on Declude.exe the statistics are reset.

Correct.

>If this is a correct interpretation, would it be possible to maintain 
>this
>data in a editable
>file which would be loaded by HiJack on a restart?  Also to add a
>"persistence parameter" that would enable us to set a time period for
>retention of entries in the file, 10 days for example.  That would keep the
>list from growing infinitely.

That's a very good idea -- I'll see if we can incorporate that into Declude 
Hijack.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Enhancement

2003-02-02 Thread R. Scott Perry


I find that HiJack catches a meaningful amount of SPAM for the store and
forward domains and probably also helps out on Dictionary Attacks as well.
It seems like some spammers deliberately target secondary MX's with the
thought that they can sneak stuff through more easily.


Yes, many spammers have caught on that sending to secondary MX's makes it 
more likely that the E-mail will not get caught.

It appears that HiJack keeps it records in memory and, if there's a restart
on Declude.exe the statistics are reset.


Correct.


If this is a correct interpretation, would it be possible to maintain this 
data in a editable
file which would be loaded by HiJack on a restart?  Also to add a
"persistence parameter" that would enable us to set a time period for
retention of entries in the file, 10 days for example.  That would keep the
list from growing infinitely.

That's a very good idea -- I'll see if we can incorporate that into Declude 
Hijack.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBlacklist CIDR Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Thanks

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>When JunkMail does a CIDR calculation from an entry in ipblacklist.txt 
>file does it use the actual value of the IP address that is listed or 
>does it calculate what it believes to be the correct range of 
>addresses?

It calculates the full range of addresses.  So:

>For example, how would the following entry be interpreted?
>
>216.162.101.110/27
>
>A. from 216.162.101.110 to 216.162.101.141 or
>
>B. from 216.192.101.96 to 216.162.101.127

This would be treated as B.  That way, if you have an IP, you can enter it 
and the CIDR range without having to make sure that it is set up properly 
(so you can enter "192.0.2.25/24" and get the whole 192.0.2.0-192.0.2.255 
range without having to change it to "192.0.2.0/24").
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] IPBlacklist CIDR Question

2003-02-02 Thread R. Scott Perry


When JunkMail does a CIDR calculation from an entry in ipblacklist.txt file
does it use the actual value of the IP address that is listed or does it
calculate what it believes to be the correct range of addresses?


It calculates the full range of addresses.  So:


For example, how would the following entry be interpreted?

216.162.101.110/27

A. from 216.162.101.110 to 216.162.101.141 or

B. from 216.192.101.96 to 216.162.101.127


This would be treated as B.  That way, if you have an IP, you can enter it 
and the CIDR range without having to make sure that it is set up properly 
(so you can enter "192.0.2.25/24" and get the whole 192.0.2.0-192.0.2.255 
range without having to change it to "192.0.2.0/24").
-Scott

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[Declude.JunkMail] HiJack Enhancement

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

I find that HiJack catches a meaningful amount of SPAM for the store and
forward domains and probably also helps out on Dictionary Attacks as well.
It seems like some spammers deliberately target secondary MX's with the
thought that they can sneak stuff through more easily.  

It appears that HiJack keeps it records in memory and, if there's a restart
on Declude.exe the statistics are reset.  If this is a correct
interpretation, would it be possible to maintain this data in a editable
file which would be loaded by HiJack on a restart?  Also to add a
"persistence parameter" that would enable us to set a time period for
retention of entries in the file, 10 days for example.  That would keep the
list from growing infinitely.

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.


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[Declude.JunkMail] IPBlacklist CIDR Question

2003-02-02 Thread George Kulman
Scott,

When JunkMail does a CIDR calculation from an entry in ipblacklist.txt file
does it use the actual value of the IP address that is listed or does it
calculate what it believes to be the correct range of addresses?

For example, how would the following entry be interpreted?

216.162.101.110/27

A. from 216.162.101.110 to 216.162.101.141 or

B. from 216.192.101.96 to 216.162.101.127

TIA,

George Kulman
Partner
Ridge Systems, L.L.C.


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