Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers Dumping Porn for Financial Services

2004-05-27 Thread System Administrator
on 5/26/04 3:49 PM, Kami Razvan wrote:

 http://internetweek.com/e-business/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=21100229
 
 Time to add new filters..

I believe a minweighttofail type command in a filter would catch these
easily. In the following example, if 4 or more filter lines matched the
contents of the message, the message would get 100 added to the message
weight. If 3 or less lines matched, no weight would be added to the message.

Different filters using the same minweighttofail command could be used for
catching drug, porn and nigerian type messages.

Stocks -

SKIPIFWEIGHT60
MINWEIGHTTOFAIL  4  100
BODY 1 CONTAINS attention investors
BODY 1 CONTAINS begin making money today
BODY 1 CONTAINS big upside potential
BODY 1 CONTAINS bonus stock pick
BODY 1 CONTAINS explosive stock pick
BODY 1 CONTAINS huge gains
BODY 1 CONTAINS huge profits
BODY 1 CONTAINS for immediate release
BODY 1 CONTAINS hot investors weekly
BODY 1 CONTAINS hot trading alert
BODY 1 CONTAINS investment alert
BODY 1 CONTAINS investment opportunity
BODY 1 CONTAINS market news alerts
BODY 1 CONTAINS microcap analyst newsletter
BODY 1 CONTAINS next hot pick
BODY 1 CONTAINS stock alert
BODY 1 CONTAINS stock buyer's alert
BODY 1 CONTAINS stock market watcher
BODY 1 CONTAINS strong buy recommendation
BODY 1 CONTAINS target price
BODY 1 CONTAINS trading alert
BODY 1 CONTAINS microcap stock review
BODY 1 CONTAINS speculative near term
BODY 1 CONTAINS speculative long term
BODY 1 CONTAINS Securities Act of 1933
BODY 1 CONTAINS Securities Exchange Act of 1934
BODY 1 CONTAINS hot stocks tip
BODY 1 CONTAINS urgent stock alert
BODY 1 CONTAINS undervalued
BODY 1 CONTAINS statements are based on expectations
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS investment news
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS investors
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS stock alert
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS stock pick
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS stock watch
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS strong buy
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS huge profits
SUBJECT 1  CONTAINS trader alert

Later,
Greg

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[Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail manual

2004-05-27 Thread Larry Craddock
Has the link to the manual changed? 
http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm no longer works.

Larry Craddock 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail manual

2004-05-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

Has the link to the manual changed? 
http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm no longer works.
I just checked, and it worked for me (with a redirect to the articles 
URL, but I still use the URL you listed).

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail manual

2004-05-27 Thread Jeff Pereira
The link in your email worked for me although the final destination was:

http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116

jeff

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 Has the link to the manual changed?
 http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm no longer works.

 Larry Craddock

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail manual

2004-05-27 Thread Larry Craddock
Thanks ... it started working for me too even though I had tried it several 
times before asking. Who knows; sometimes cache is the devil :)

Larry
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Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junkmail manual


The link in your email worked for me although the final destination was:
http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=116
jeff
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Has the link to the manual changed?
http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm no longer works.
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[Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread Larry Craddock
I think I need a little more detail on the spamdomains test. Here's the 
entire explanation from the manual:

[This test will catch E-mail that is not coming from a mailserver that it 
should be coming from. This test will only work if you set up a file listing 
domains that you wish to be included in this test. Specifically, it will 
check the return address of the E-mail, and then check to see if the reverse 
DNS entry of the IP that the E-mail was sent from contains the domain name. 
If not, the E-mail fails the test. For example, if hotmail.com is listed 
in the \IMail\Declude\spamdomains.txt file, then an E-mail coming from 
law2.hotmail.com would not fail the test, but an E-mail from 
mail.example.ru would fail the test.]

But I'm sure I've seen discussion someplace with reference to lines 
containing more than just a domain name in the spamdomains.txt file ... or 
is that all that's needed besides enabling the test?

Larry Craddock 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

But I'm sure I've seen discussion someplace with reference to lines 
containing more than just a domain name in the spamdomains.txt file ... or 
is that all that's needed besides enabling the test?
That's a new feature, that allows you to have an alias (for lack of a 
better word) that can be used in conjunction with the domain name.

So a line example.com would require that any E-mail address from 
@example.com must have a reverse DNS entry containing 
example.com.  However, if legitimate @example.com E-mail can also be sent 
from @example.net, then you could have a line example.com 
example.net.  With that line, an E-mail from @example.com could have a 
reverse DNS entry containing example.com or example.net (but it would 
not apply to users with an @example.net return address).

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spammers Dumping Porn for Financial Services

2004-05-27 Thread Markus Gufler

 SKIPIFWEIGHT60
 MINWEIGHTTOFAIL  4  100
 BODY 1 CONTAINS attention investors
 


This looks very good and very usefull for me!

Markus


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Thanks for the replies.

Below are lines from the SMTP log.  The new gateway customer is the
@lsps.org.  They use GroupWise.  I can see a message coming in from
xxx-solutions.com.  It then is received by IMail...spooled

The next part of the log is where I need help.  Why is the Imail server
(apollo.misd.net) connecting to Trend?  This customer used to use Trend
IMSS but now wants to use IMail/Declude for spam and virus filtering. 

Did they not properly configure their GroupWise server to accept mail
from IMail/Declude?  Why is Trend jumping into the mix? I am not real
familiar with Groupwise (I run Exchange here) or Trend for that matter
(I run Declude).  

Has anyone seen this before?  What can I do or is this normal behavior?

Thanks for any help.

Samantha 




05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [64.88.0.98] connect 216.157.193.231
port 2290
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] EHLO
ARTEMIS-PORTAL.portal.artemis-solutions.com
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231]
D:\IMAIL\spool\D6709060702908a12.SMD 3561
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) processing
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Trying lsps.org (0)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Connect lsps.org [64.88.9.99:25] (1)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 220 mailscan Trend Micro InterScan
Messaging Security Suite, Version: 5.5 ready at Wed, 26 May 2004
23:46:43 -0400
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) EHLO apollo.misd.net
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-mailscan supports the following
ESMTP extensions:
05:26 23:57 SMTPD(670f097b01728a1d) [64.88.0.98] connect 24.110.62.129
port 1258
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-SIZE
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-DSN
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-8bitmime
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 OK
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) DATA
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 354 mailscan: Send data now.
Terminate with .
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) .
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 mailscan: Message accepted for
delivery
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) rdeliver lsps.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3784
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) QUIT
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 221 mailscan closing connection.
Goodbye!
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) finished
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD status=1



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From: Rick Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Make sure the system you are gatewaying for allows relay from the
gateway host.

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:27 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Hello All -

I have started providing gateway services to a new host.  I see the
messages reach the spool and start to be processed.  However the SMTP
log says that the message keeps requeing and giving me a status of 3

Please help.  Any ideas of what to look at would be appreciated.

Samantha

Samantha Bridges
Communications Technician
Macomb Intermediate School District
44001 Garfield Road
Clinton Township  MI  48038-1100
(586) 228-3300

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Samantha, part of the answer that you're looking for is that when your
misd.net server is connecting to their server to deliver the mail, you're
not connecting to Trend Micro, the company, you're connecting to their
mail server, which has a Trend Micro product in front of their other mail
host, which you say is GroupWise.

That Trend Micro product is an SMTP gateway which calls itself mailscan
and it is accepting your relayed mail (status=1).

Your original message asked about status=3, which indicates that the message
is re-queued.  Here is an Ipswitch Knowledge Base article on the status
codes:

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19990715-DM01.htm

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Thanks for the replies.

Below are lines from the SMTP log.  The new gateway customer is the
@lsps.org.  They use GroupWise.  I can see a message coming in from
xxx-solutions.com.  It then is received by IMail...spooled

The next part of the log is where I need help.  Why is the Imail server
(apollo.misd.net) connecting to Trend?  This customer used to use Trend
IMSS but now wants to use IMail/Declude for spam and virus filtering. 

Did they not properly configure their GroupWise server to accept mail
from IMail/Declude?  Why is Trend jumping into the mix? I am not real
familiar with Groupwise (I run Exchange here) or Trend for that matter
(I run Declude).  

Has anyone seen this before?  What can I do or is this normal behavior?

Thanks for any help.

Samantha 




05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [64.88.0.98] connect 216.157.193.231
port 2290
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] EHLO
ARTEMIS-PORTAL.portal.artemis-solutions.com
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] RCPT
TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231]
D:\IMAIL\spool\D6709060702908a12.SMD 3561
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) processing
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Trying lsps.org (0)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Connect lsps.org [64.88.9.99:25] (1)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 220 mailscan Trend Micro InterScan
Messaging Security Suite, Version: 5.5 ready at Wed, 26 May 2004
23:46:43 -0400
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) EHLO apollo.misd.net
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-mailscan supports the following
ESMTP extensions:
05:26 23:57 SMTPD(670f097b01728a1d) [64.88.0.98] connect 24.110.62.129
port 1258
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-SIZE
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-DSN
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-8bitmime
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 OK
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) DATA
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 354 mailscan: Send data now.
Terminate with .
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) .
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 mailscan: Message accepted for
delivery
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) rdeliver lsps.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3784
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) QUIT
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 221 mailscan closing connection.
Goodbye!
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) finished
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD status=1



-Original Message-
From: Rick Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Make sure the system you are gatewaying for allows relay from the
gateway host.

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
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- Original Message - 
From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:27 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Hello All -

I have started providing gateway services to a new host.  I see the
messages reach the spool and start to be processed.  However the SMTP
log says that the message keeps requeing and giving me a status of 3

Please help.  Any ideas of what to look at would be appreciated.

Samantha

Samantha Bridges
Communications Technician
Macomb Intermediate School District
44001 Garfield Road
Clinton Township  MI  48038-1100
(586) 228-3300

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.misd.net


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Bridges, Samantha
I don't want to connect to Trend (whether on the box or not).  I want to
connect directly to their GroupWise SMTP (64.88.9.99).  How do I get
around the Trend SMTP and connect directly to the GroupWise SMTP.  

In other words, I don't want the mail to pass through Trend at all.  Is
the setting on their GroupWise server?  

-Original Message-
From: Colbeck, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Samantha, part of the answer that you're looking for is that when your
misd.net server is connecting to their server to deliver the mail,
you're not connecting to Trend Micro, the company, you're connecting
to their mail server, which has a Trend Micro product in front of their
other mail host, which you say is GroupWise.

That Trend Micro product is an SMTP gateway which calls itself
mailscan and it is accepting your relayed mail (status=1).

Your original message asked about status=3, which indicates that the
message is re-queued.  Here is an Ipswitch Knowledge Base article on the
status
codes:

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19990715-DM01.htm

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Thanks for the replies.

Below are lines from the SMTP log.  The new gateway customer is the
@lsps.org.  They use GroupWise.  I can see a message coming in from
xxx-solutions.com.  It then is received by IMail...spooled

The next part of the log is where I need help.  Why is the Imail server
(apollo.misd.net) connecting to Trend?  This customer used to use Trend
IMSS but now wants to use IMail/Declude for spam and virus filtering. 

Did they not properly configure their GroupWise server to accept mail
from IMail/Declude?  Why is Trend jumping into the mix? I am not real
familiar with Groupwise (I run Exchange here) or Trend for that matter
(I run Declude).  

Has anyone seen this before?  What can I do or is this normal behavior?

Thanks for any help.

Samantha 




05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [64.88.0.98] connect 216.157.193.231
port 2290 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] EHLO
ARTEMIS-PORTAL.portal.artemis-solutions.com
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12)
[216.157.193.231] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56
SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231]
D:\IMAIL\spool\D6709060702908a12.SMD 3561 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) processing D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Trying lsps.org (0)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Connect lsps.org [64.88.9.99:25] (1)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 220 mailscan Trend Micro InterScan
Messaging Security Suite, Version: 5.5 ready at Wed, 26 May 2004
23:46:43 -0400 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) EHLO apollo.misd.net
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-mailscan supports the following
ESMTP extensions: 05:26 23:57 SMTPD(670f097b01728a1d) [64.88.0.98]
connect 24.110.62.129 port 1258 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250-SIZE 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-DSN 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-8bitmime 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250 OK 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient Ok 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) DATA 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
354 mailscan: Send data now. Terminate with . 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) . 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250
mailscan: Message accepted for delivery 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) rdeliver lsps.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3784 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) QUIT 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 221 mailscan closing connection. Goodbye!
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) finished
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD status=1



-Original Message-
From: Rick Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Make sure the system you are gatewaying for allows relay from the
gateway host.

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
-
- Original Message - 
From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:27 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Hello All -

I have started providing gateway services to a new host.  I see the
messages reach the spool and start to be processed.  However the SMTP
log says that the message keeps requeing and giving me a status of 3

Please help.  Any ideas of 

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Scott Fisher
I believe you need to add the IP address of the GW server to your hosts file for 
resolution.
You are pulling out an MX record somewhere that is saying send to the Trend server. At 
least that's how I get to my GW server.

hosts:
192.0.0.1 domain.com

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/27/04 09:37AM 
I don't want to connect to Trend (whether on the box or not).  I want to
connect directly to their GroupWise SMTP (64.88.9.99).  How do I get
around the Trend SMTP and connect directly to the GroupWise SMTP.  

In other words, I don't want the mail to pass through Trend at all.  Is
the setting on their GroupWise server?  

-Original Message-
From: Colbeck, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Samantha, part of the answer that you're looking for is that when your
misd.net server is connecting to their server to deliver the mail,
you're not connecting to Trend Micro, the company, you're connecting
to their mail server, which has a Trend Micro product in front of their
other mail host, which you say is GroupWise.

That Trend Micro product is an SMTP gateway which calls itself
mailscan and it is accepting your relayed mail (status=1).

Your original message asked about status=3, which indicates that the
message is re-queued.  Here is an Ipswitch Knowledge Base article on the
status
codes:

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19990715-DM01.htm 

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Thanks for the replies.

Below are lines from the SMTP log.  The new gateway customer is the
@lsps.org.  They use GroupWise.  I can see a message coming in from
xxx-solutions.com.  It then is received by IMail...spooled

The next part of the log is where I need help.  Why is the Imail server
(apollo.misd.net) connecting to Trend?  This customer used to use Trend
IMSS but now wants to use IMail/Declude for spam and virus filtering. 

Did they not properly configure their GroupWise server to accept mail
from IMail/Declude?  Why is Trend jumping into the mix? I am not real
familiar with Groupwise (I run Exchange here) or Trend for that matter
(I run Declude).  

Has anyone seen this before?  What can I do or is this normal behavior?

Thanks for any help.

Samantha 




05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [64.88.0.98] connect 216.157.193.231
port 2290 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] EHLO
ARTEMIS-PORTAL.portal.artemis-solutions.com
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12)
[216.157.193.231] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56
SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231]
D:\IMAIL\spool\D6709060702908a12.SMD 3561 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) processing D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Trying lsps.org (0)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Connect lsps.org [64.88.9.99:25] (1)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 220 mailscan Trend Micro InterScan
Messaging Security Suite, Version: 5.5 ready at Wed, 26 May 2004
23:46:43 -0400 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) EHLO apollo.misd.net
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-mailscan supports the following
ESMTP extensions: 05:26 23:57 SMTPD(670f097b01728a1d) [64.88.0.98]
connect 24.110.62.129 port 1258 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250-SIZE 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-DSN 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-8bitmime 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250 OK 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient Ok 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) DATA 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
354 mailscan: Send data now. Terminate with . 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) . 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250
mailscan: Message accepted for delivery 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) rdeliver lsps.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3784 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) QUIT 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 221 mailscan closing connection. Goodbye!
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) finished
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD status=1



-Original Message-
From: Rick Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Make sure the system you are gatewaying for allows relay from the
gateway host.

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Group
-
- Original Message - 
From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL 

[Declude.JunkMail] Can you do WHITELISTING in the $default$.JunkMail.txt file?

2004-05-27 Thread Brent Brashear
I'm wanting to give AntiSpam customers the ability to 'tweek' their spam
settings by giving them FTP access to the $default$.JunkMail.txt file.

I'm hoping they'll also be able to manage their WHITELISTING (because not
everyone wants the same WHITELIST)

How could this be done?

-Brent

attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Bridges, Samantha


I believe you need to add the IP address of the GW server to your hosts
file for resolution. You are pulling out an MX record somewhere that is
saying send to the Trend server. At least that's how I get to my GW
server.

I did - In the \\..\\winnt\system32\drivers\etc I changed the hosts file
to include the line:

64.88.9.99  lsps.org

Gotta be something on their endbut what???

Hhhhmmm

hosts:
192.0.0.1 domain.com

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/27/04 09:37AM 
I don't want to connect to Trend (whether on the box or not).  I want to
connect directly to their GroupWise SMTP (64.88.9.99).  How do I get
around the Trend SMTP and connect directly to the GroupWise SMTP.  

In other words, I don't want the mail to pass through Trend at all.  Is
the setting on their GroupWise server?  

-Original Message-
From: Colbeck, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Samantha, part of the answer that you're looking for is that when your
misd.net server is connecting to their server to deliver the mail,
you're not connecting to Trend Micro, the company, you're connecting
to their mail server, which has a Trend Micro product in front of their
other mail host, which you say is GroupWise.

That Trend Micro product is an SMTP gateway which calls itself
mailscan and it is accepting your relayed mail (status=1).

Your original message asked about status=3, which indicates that the
message is re-queued.  Here is an Ipswitch Knowledge Base article on the
status
codes:

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19990715-DM01.htm 

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Thanks for the replies.

Below are lines from the SMTP log.  The new gateway customer is the
@lsps.org.  They use GroupWise.  I can see a message coming in from
xxx-solutions.com.  It then is received by IMail...spooled

The next part of the log is where I need help.  Why is the Imail server
(apollo.misd.net) connecting to Trend?  This customer used to use Trend
IMSS but now wants to use IMail/Declude for spam and virus filtering. 

Did they not properly configure their GroupWise server to accept mail
from IMail/Declude?  Why is Trend jumping into the mix? I am not real
familiar with Groupwise (I run Exchange here) or Trend for that matter
(I run Declude).  

Has anyone seen this before?  What can I do or is this normal behavior?

Thanks for any help.

Samantha 




05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [64.88.0.98] connect 216.157.193.231
port 2290 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] EHLO
ARTEMIS-PORTAL.portal.artemis-solutions.com
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12)
[216.157.193.231] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56
SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231]
D:\IMAIL\spool\D6709060702908a12.SMD 3561 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) processing D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Trying lsps.org (0)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Connect lsps.org [64.88.9.99:25] (1)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 220 mailscan Trend Micro InterScan
Messaging Security Suite, Version: 5.5 ready at Wed, 26 May 2004
23:46:43 -0400 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) EHLO apollo.misd.net
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-mailscan supports the following
ESMTP extensions: 05:26 23:57 SMTPD(670f097b01728a1d) [64.88.0.98]
connect 24.110.62.129 port 1258 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250-SIZE 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-DSN 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-8bitmime 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250 OK 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient Ok 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) DATA 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
354 mailscan: Send data now. Terminate with . 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) . 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250
mailscan: Message accepted for delivery 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) rdeliver lsps.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3784 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) QUIT 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 221 mailscan closing connection. Goodbye!
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) finished
D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD status=1



-Original Message-
From: Rick Davidson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 1:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Make sure the system you are gatewaying for allows relay from the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Russ Uhte \(Lists\)
At 10:08 AM 5/27/2004, Bridges, Samantha wrote:

I believe you need to add the IP address of the GW server to your hosts
file for resolution. You are pulling out an MX record somewhere that is
saying send to the Trend server. At least that's how I get to my GW
server.
I did - In the \\..\\winnt\system32\drivers\etc I changed the hosts file
to include the line:
64.88.9.99  lsps.org
Gotta be something on their endbut what???
Are you using Imail 8 by chance?  I'm not sure of the order of operations 
when using IMail 8's DNS cache, but is it possible that you need to clear 
out that cache?  Might want to give that a try.

-Russ
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Can you do WHITELISTING in the $default$.JunkMail.txt file?

2004-05-27 Thread Jeff Maze
Do the per-domain setup..

1.  Create a folder for each domain or domains that you want this per-domain
whitelisting for, within the X:\iMail\Declude folder.  E.g.  example.com (I
did all of our domains that we host just because the default
$default$.junkmail file was getting huge with all the whitelisted e-mail
addresses).

2.  Copy $default$.junkmail and the *.eml files to this directory.

3.  Edit the $default$.junkmail file and add the following line (I put mine
after the SPAMDOMAINS test):
WHITELISTFILE   %location of whitelist text file%
e.g. WHITELISTFILE   X:\imail\declude\example.com\%ftp access
folder%\whitelist.txt
I wouldn't give them full access to all the *.eml files as well as
the $default$.junkmail file, so this is why I added the %ftp access folder%
listing.

4.  Also, you can edit the $default$.junkmail file if you want certain
things to happen with messages that fail certain tests.  E.g.  If this
example.com boss only wants messages routed, deleted, etc. for messages that
fail the WEIGHT10 test, then you can.  This $default$.junkmail file
overrides the default $default$.junkmail file within the X:\imail\Declude
folder.

5.  Create the whitelist.txt file and add e-mail addresses that you wish to
have whitelisted for certain domains.
whitelist.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
@example.com
.morebeforethisdomain.com

Hope this helps you out..

 _ 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of Brent Brashear
 Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:53 AM
 To:   Declude
 Subject:  [Declude.JunkMail] Can you do WHITELISTING in the
 $default$.JunkMail.txt file?
 
 I'm wanting to give AntiSpam customers the ability to 'tweek' their spam
 settings by giving them FTP access to the $default$.JunkMail.txt file.
 
 I'm hoping they'll also be able to manage their WHITELISTING (because not
 everyone wants the same WHITELIST)
 
 How could this be done?
 
 -Brent
 
attachment: winmail.dat

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Massive CPU usage

2004-05-27 Thread Matt
James Nelson wrote:
I'll try implementing these here in the next day or so after read up 
on the documentation for them.  Care to explain what the size.vbs file 
is?
There's a lengthy discussion in the archives about that external test.  
Note that this requires a more recent interim release in order to run as 
designed, and there are also some bugs in that version that affect 
whether or not it will run when it's supposed to.  I'll probably update 
that file soon, so maybe holding off would be a better idea.


We do not have any nobody aliases (I can guess the problems that 
could cause) on any of our domains.  However, our major domains are 
provided to dial-up users and have been around for close to 8 years, 
so I'm sure many of them are probably on spam lists.  I'd guess that 
the most of the 5-8K outgoing messages from postmaster are spam 
and/or virus related. 
If you are using the BOUNCE action on blocked messages (now renamed to 
discourage use), you should turn that off because that creates a problem 
for those that have had their addresses forged in spam, and those of us 
that try to block bounce messages from forged spam coming to our users.  
Regarding virus bounces, you really shouldn't bounce anything but banned 
extensions for similar reasons.  You should read up on the newer 
capabilities in Declude virus to recognize forging viruses, and I 
encourage you to turn off (remove) the otherpostmaster.eml and 
sender.eml files.  That seems like that number is way too high for your 
traffic.

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question

2004-05-27 Thread Scott Fisher
2 thoughts.

Are you positive they gave you the correct IP address of the GroupWise server. They 
may be accustomed to handing out the IP address of the Trend server.

Their firewall could be redirecting all port 25 traffic to the trend micro machine.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/27/04 10:08AM 


I believe you need to add the IP address of the GW server to your hosts
file for resolution. You are pulling out an MX record somewhere that is
saying send to the Trend server. At least that's how I get to my GW
server.

I did - In the \\..\\winnt\system32\drivers\etc I changed the hosts file
to include the line:

64.88.9.99  lsps.org

Gotta be something on their endbut what???

Hhhhmmm

hosts:
192.0.0.1 domain.com

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/27/04 09:37AM 
I don't want to connect to Trend (whether on the box or not).  I want to
connect directly to their GroupWise SMTP (64.88.9.99).  How do I get
around the Trend SMTP and connect directly to the GroupWise SMTP.  

In other words, I don't want the mail to pass through Trend at all.  Is
the setting on their GroupWise server?  

-Original Message-
From: Colbeck, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 10:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Samantha, part of the answer that you're looking for is that when your
misd.net server is connecting to their server to deliver the mail,
you're not connecting to Trend Micro, the company, you're connecting
to their mail server, which has a Trend Micro product in front of their
other mail host, which you say is GroupWise.

That Trend Micro product is an SMTP gateway which calls itself
mailscan and it is accepting your relayed mail (status=1).

Your original message asked about status=3, which indicates that the
message is re-queued.  Here is an Ipswitch Knowledge Base article on the
status
codes:

http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19990715-DM01.htm 

Andrew 8)

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 6:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Help - Gateway Question


Thanks for the replies.

Below are lines from the SMTP log.  The new gateway customer is the
@lsps.org.  They use GroupWise.  I can see a message coming in from
xxx-solutions.com.  It then is received by IMail...spooled

The next part of the log is where I need help.  Why is the Imail server
(apollo.misd.net) connecting to Trend?  This customer used to use Trend
IMSS but now wants to use IMail/Declude for spam and virus filtering. 

Did they not properly configure their GroupWise server to accept mail
from IMail/Declude?  Why is Trend jumping into the mix? I am not real
familiar with Groupwise (I run Exchange here) or Trend for that matter
(I run Declude).  

Has anyone seen this before?  What can I do or is this normal behavior?

Thanks for any help.

Samantha 




05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [64.88.0.98] connect 216.157.193.231
port 2290 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] EHLO
ARTEMIS-PORTAL.portal.artemis-solutions.com
05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231] MAIL
FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56 SMTPD(6709060702908a12)
[216.157.193.231] RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26 23:56
SMTPD(6709060702908a12) [216.157.193.231]
D:\IMAIL\spool\D6709060702908a12.SMD 3561 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) processing D:\IMAIL\spool\Q6709060702908a12.SMD
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Trying lsps.org (0)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) Connect lsps.org [64.88.9.99:25] (1)
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 220 mailscan Trend Micro InterScan
Messaging Security Suite, Version: 5.5 ready at Wed, 26 May 2004
23:46:43 -0400 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) EHLO apollo.misd.net
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-mailscan supports the following
ESMTP extensions: 05:26 23:57 SMTPD(670f097b01728a1d) [64.88.0.98]
connect 24.110.62.129 port 1258 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250-SIZE 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-DSN 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250-8bitmime 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
250 OK 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sender Ok
05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) RCPT To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient Ok 05:26
23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) DATA 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12)
354 mailscan: Send data now. Terminate with . 05:26 23:57
SMTP-(6709060702908a12) . 05:26 23:57 SMTP-(6709060702908a12) 250
mailscan: Message accepted for delivery 05:26 23:57
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Can you do WHITELISTING in the $default$.JunkMail.txt file?

2004-05-27 Thread Ryan Carmelo Briones
Brent Brashear wrote:
I'm wanting to give AntiSpam customers the ability to 'tweek' their spam
settings by giving them FTP access to the $default$.JunkMail.txt file.
I'm hoping they'll also be able to manage their WHITELISTING (because not
everyone wants the same WHITELIST)
How could this be done?
-Brent
 

I would think this could be done better, or at least the whitelisting 
part, using AUTOWHITELIST ON. Then users would just log in via web 
messaging, add an address to their address book, and it's whitelisted. 
Or maybe I missed something important...Btw, allowing end users to edit 
your $default$.junkmail file sounds like a pretty bad idea to me.

Ryan
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[Declude.JunkMail] Question about quoted-printable encoding and filtering

2004-05-27 Thread Matt




Scott,

I'm finding this difficult to test and thought that I would ask it
instead. I've found some heavy obfuscation in some Nigerian stuff that
has be scratching my head about how to filter it. One such messages
contains the following:
THE OWNER OF THIS ACCOUNT LATE MR.DENNIS BR=
OWN ,HE DIED SINCE 1997

I'm wondering to what extent Declude clears up such encoding for the
filters. For instance, would the following work in this instance:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BROWN

or maybe with a space for the line return:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BR= OWN

or rather without the space:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BR=OWN

Thanks,

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question about quoted-printable encoding and filtering

2004-05-27 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm finding this difficult to test and thought that I would ask it 
instead.  I've found some heavy obfuscation in some Nigerian stuff that 
has be scratching my head about how to filter it.  One such messages 
contains the following:
THE OWNER OF THIS ACCOUNT LATE MR.DENNIS BR=
OWN ,HE DIED SINCE 1997

I'm wondering to what extent Declude clears up such encoding for the 
filters.  For instance, would the following work in this instance:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BROWN

or maybe with a space for the line return:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BR= OWN
or rather without the space:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BR=OWN
Declude JunkMail should translate the CRLF (linefeed) into a space, so it 
the second line (MR.DENNIS BR= OWN) should catch it.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Question about quoted-printable encoding and filtering

2004-05-27 Thread Matt
Thanks.
. I'm sure it goes without saying that MIME decoding would be a nice 
addition whenever that pops to the top of your to-do list.  This one 
message was clearly obfuscated using that technique, and the sender was 
careful to find a free mail provider that would send quoted-printable 
encoding headers on plain text messages.  This is most problematic on 
Nigerian scams because it almost always comes from legitimate mail 
providers and you have to rely exclusively on content filters to block 
it, although I'm now starting to populate a %MAILFROMBL% test for such 
addresses, and I should soon see how useful that may be.

Matt

R. Scott Perry wrote:

I'm finding this difficult to test and thought that I would ask it 
instead.  I've found some heavy obfuscation in some Nigerian stuff 
that has be scratching my head about how to filter it.  One such 
messages contains the following:
THE OWNER OF THIS ACCOUNT LATE MR.DENNIS BR=
OWN ,HE DIED SINCE 1997

I'm wondering to what extent Declude clears up such encoding for the 
filters.  For instance, would the following work in this instance:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BROWN

or maybe with a space for the line return:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BR= OWN
or rather without the space:
BODY  3  CONTAINS  MR.DENNIS BR=OWN

Declude JunkMail should translate the CRLF (linefeed) into a space, so 
it the second line (MR.DENNIS BR= OWN) should catch it.

   -Scott
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Massive CPU usage

2004-05-27 Thread James Nelson
Matt wrote:
James Nelson wrote:
I'll try implementing these here in the next day or so after read up 
on the documentation for them.  Care to explain what the size.vbs file 
is?

There's a lengthy discussion in the archives about that external test.  
Note that this requires a more recent interim release in order to run as 
designed, and there are also some bugs in that version that affect 
whether or not it will run when it's supposed to.  I'll probably update 
that file soon, so maybe holding off would be a better idea.

If that's still not ready for use, I'll just leave it alone then.
If you are using the BOUNCE action on blocked messages (now renamed to 
discourage use), you should turn that off because that creates a problem 
for those that have had their addresses forged in spam, and those of us 
that try to block bounce messages from forged spam coming to our users.  
Regarding virus bounces, you really shouldn't bounce anything but banned 
extensions for similar reasons.  You should read up on the newer 
capabilities in Declude virus to recognize forging viruses, and I 
encourage you to turn off (remove) the otherpostmaster.eml and 
sender.eml files.  That seems like that number is way too high for your 
traffic.

Currently, we just write a header message in messages that get to a 
certain weight, redirect that to a special folder in the users' mailbox, 
and delete it after 14 days.  So no bouncing of spam messages, and I've 
also disabled (a while ago) virus messages to sender (too many viruses 
forge this for it to make it useful in my opinion).  Unfortunately, due 
to decisions beyond my control, the antivirus  spam filtering are sold 
as seperate services and are enabled per-user and not server wide.

Thanks for all the assistance,
::James Nelson
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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 So  a  line example.com would require that any E-mail address from
 @example.com must have a reverse DNS entry containing example.com.
 However,  if  legitimate  @example.com  E-mail can also be sent from
 @example.net,  then you could have a line example.com example.net.

Scott,  any  thoughts  on my suggestion of an extended SPFDOMAINS test
type with which you could manually maintain SPF-formatted policies for
given domains, running the data through the existing SPF parser?

--Sandy



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread Matt




Using the dnsbl type of test and a custom zone, you could extend this
through DNS. For instance:

MPBL-SPAMDOMAINS dnsbl %REVDNS%.%RHSBL%.spamdomains.example.com 
 127.0.0.2  4  0 

In your custom zone, you could construct records like so:

*.aol.com.aol.comA 
127.0.0.1
   TXT ( "Good Entry" )
  *.aol.comA  127.0.0.2
   TXT ( "Bad Entry" )

I haven't yet tested this, but I believe that the wildcarding will work
to give you the proper result. Essentially you define a single bad
entry, and then one good entry for every set of reverse DNS with Mail
>From domain. Unlike SPAMDOMAINS, this could accomodate more than two
different reverse DNS domains. The downside is that I don't know what
it will do if Declude can't resolve a reverse DNS entry, or more
accurately, what value will Declude use in place of the reverse DNS
entry (this might be something to provide as an exception for each
entry). Alternatively, you could also use the %HELO% in combination
with %RHSBL% since those don't need to do lookups. Same thing goes for
%IP4R% as well if you wish to do it in a fashion similar to SPF.

Matt



Sanford Whiteman wrote:

  
So  a  line "example.com" would require that any E-mail address from
@example.com must have a reverse DNS entry containing "example.com".
However,  if  legitimate  @example.com  E-mail can also be sent from
@example.net,  then you could have a line "example.com example.net".

  
  
Scott,  any  thoughts  on my suggestion of an extended SPFDOMAINS test
type with which you could manually maintain SPF-formatted policies for
given domains, running the data through the existing SPF parser?

--Sandy



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Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread Sanford Whiteman
 Using the dnsbl type of test and a custom zone, you could extend this 
 through DNS.  For instance:

 MPBL-SPAMDOMAINS   dnsbl%REVDNS%.%RHSBL%.spamdomains.example.com
 127.0.0.240

Interesting  idea,  Matt.  Still  way  too much management compared to
SPF-compatibleformatting,though.   The   ability   to   append
._spf.example.com  to  SPF  queries,  or use the SPFDOMAINS text list,
would be a lot easier.

--Sandy




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread Matt




I've been planing on trying this for about a week now, and I'm still
not convinced that it will work. From my standpoint though, this
represents a good way to remove a tad bit more processing and maintain
a system to be shared on multiple servers without having to update text
files.

This idea originally came from my desire to qualify two pieces of
information when whitelisting. Using this technique, you could
effectively whitelist without fear of forging, though of course the
possibility would still exist. You could credit messages that pass
such a test such as from amazon.com, coming from an amazon.com reverse
DNS entry, and that would be much stronger than systems like
BondedSener which relies only on the IP, where servers can still be
hijacked or infected. This is also a much more efficient way to credit
messages than to maintain long lists of whitelist address and as above,
it's a good format for a distributed system with multiple scanning
servers that can be updated in real-time.

My biggest wish though is that both the To: address and the Reply-To:
address were exposed through variables and filters, because that would
allow me to apply credit to things that use VERP and also put it in DNS
instead of using body or header filters to do the dirty work.

Matt



Sanford Whiteman wrote:

  
Using the dnsbl type of test and a custom zone, you could extend this 
through DNS.  For instance:

  
  
  
  
MPBL-SPAMDOMAINS   dnsbl%REVDNS%.%RHSBL%.spamdomains.example.com
127.0.0.240

  
  
Interesting  idea,  Matt.  Still  way  too much management compared to
SPF-compatibleformatting,though.   The   ability   to   append
._spf.example.com  to  SPF  queries,  or use the SPFDOMAINS text list,
would be a lot easier.

--Sandy




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread Larry Craddock



Thanks everyone. Now that I understand how to use 
the test, does anyone have a spamdomains.txt file that includes the entries for 
the domains most commonly used that they could share?

Larry Craddock


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains test

2004-05-27 Thread Bill Landry
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From: Larry Craddock [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks everyone. Now that I understand how to use the test, does anyone
have a spamdomains.txt file that includes the entries for the domains
most commonly used that they could share?

Check the archives, Larry.  I have posted mine to the list several times.
If you cannot locate it, send me a e-mail off-list and I will send it to
you.

Bill

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