Re: [Declude.JunkMail] General Filter

2005-09-01 Thread Orin Wells
Yeah, I saw that when I was looking at the utilities yesterday.  That will 
save me poking around and trying to plug all the email addresses into a list.


Thanks

At 05:39 PM 8/31/2005, Dave Doherty wrote:

Orim-


 We are preparing to send a mass message to all accounts on this issue.


A handy utility, in case you don't know about it, is mailall.exe in your 
Imail directory. Docs are at

http://www.ipswitch.com/Support/ICS/guides/IMailServer/8_2/IMailUGHTML/Chapter%2022%20cmd_line8.html

-Dave



- Original Message - From: Orin Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] General Filter



At 12:29 PM 8/31/2005, Dave Beckstrom wrote:

 Aren't they authenticating to Imail, and aren't you white listing
 authenticated senders?


Wellthat is another issue we are finally being forced to address.

In the first place we are still running iMail 7.07 - we weren't willing 
to pay what I considered to be overpriced upgarde fees.  So we can't use 
the Whitelist Auth option.


We have a lot of users who know how to read their email, but not much 
more.  So moving them up to full authentication was something we put off 
until we ran into ORDB finding that they could relay through the Root 
account even though it had a changed password and was disabled.  That 
still bothers me, but that is the way it is.


We had relay for local user set and this had served us OK up to now.  We 
now have to bite the bullet and force all the users to learn how to set 
the authentication option in their various email applications.  It would 
have been handy if the manufacturers had all set this as a default, but 
they don't.  They each seem to have it somewhere different from each of 
the others and like to change things from one version to the next. 
Especially Netscape.  We are preparing to send a mass message to all 
accounts on this issue.  I think most have been instructed over the past 
year or so to be prepared to do this so it may not be as bad as I fear.


As for whitelisting we have not done this with local domains because of 
the limitation on whitelisting in Declude (200) in the golobal.cfg file. 
We have not so far tried to use the domain level whitelist file.



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] General Filter

2005-09-01 Thread Scott Fisher
You might consider putting a space after the short words in your body 
filters.


- Original Message - 
From: Orin Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 2:10 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] General Filter


I am having a problem with a client whose email to other members of her 
domain is getting trapped by the GeneralFilter (words or phrases we have 
added because they seem to mostly appear in spam).  In this particular case 
the triggering word seems to be P*O*R*N* without the stars.


I suspect what is happening is that the encoded attached word document 
just happens to have this set of letters in sequence in the encrypted data 
that is attached to the email file in imail.  It does not appear in the 
word document itself.  But when I look at the raw file on the server I can 
see this.


I take it from this that Declude when it scans the body of the message 
also scans any attachment that is sitting there in the encrypted mode.  If 
so is there a way around this?  Can I tell it not to scan the encrypted 
attachments or to expand them first?  If this sort of thing is in the 
latest Declude Junkmail manual, someone just tell me to read TFM.








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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Linked in

2005-09-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mmm:-) 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 4:55 PM
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Sorry, but can't resist...

 Any one have opinions good/bad on www.linkedin.com?

 Has a lot of members I know
 
 Barry

Is that good or bad?

;-)

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[Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-01 Thread Troy D. Hilton
Title: OT - Removal from SPEWS






Hey All,

How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully removed. But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you youre listed.

Any suggestions here?

Troy D. Hilton

Serveon, Inc.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

302-529-8640






[Declude.JunkMail] Odd Spam Scoring?

2005-09-01 Thread Dave Beckstrom


This spam came in today.  Note that it was scored a weight of 6.  Yet it
failed two tests that were supposed to add a weight of 4 and a weight of 7.


Now, I wasn't the best in math but I believe 4 and 7 adds up to 11!  There
were no negative weights assigned to account for this.

Any ideas?




X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
X-RBL-Warning: SORBS-DUHL: Dynamic IP Addresses See:
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?70.23.152.133;
X-RBL-Warning: DYNHELO: Dynamic HELO found.
X-RBL-Warning: SPFUNKNOWN: SPF returned UNKNOWN for this E-mail.
X-RBL-Warning: Filter_Country: Message failed Filter_Country test (line 223,
weight 0)
X-Note: 
X-Note: Spam Score:   [6]
X-Note: Scan Time:  10:13:22 on 01 Sep 2005
X-Note: Spool File: 561528422420.EML
X-Note: Server Name:pool-70-23-152-133.ny325.east.verizon.net
X-Note: SMTP Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Reverse DNS  IP: pool-70-23-152-133.ny325.east.verizon.net
[70.23.152.133]
X-Note: Recipient(s):   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Country Chain:  UNITED STATES-destination
X-Note: Failed Weights:   SORBS-DUHL [4], DYNHELO [7], SPFUNKNOWN [0],
Filter_Country [0]
X-Note: 

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd Spam Scoring?

2005-09-01 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Dave, 

You have to check the logs - is it possible you are hiding some negative 
weight tests like IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT, etc in your global.cfg file. 


Darrell

invURIBL - Intelligent URI filtering.  Stops 85%+ of SPAM with the default 
configuration and easily plugs into Declude.  
http://www.invariantsystems.com 

Dave Beckstrom writes: 

 


This spam came in today.  Note that it was scored a weight of 6.  Yet it
failed two tests that were supposed to add a weight of 4 and a weight of 7. 



Now, I wasn't the best in math but I believe 4 and 7 adds up to 11!  There
were no negative weights assigned to account for this. 

Any ideas? 

 



X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
X-RBL-Warning: SORBS-DUHL: Dynamic IP Addresses See:
http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?70.23.152.133;
X-RBL-Warning: DYNHELO: Dynamic HELO found.
X-RBL-Warning: SPFUNKNOWN: SPF returned UNKNOWN for this E-mail.
X-RBL-Warning: Filter_Country: Message failed Filter_Country test (line 223,
weight 0)
X-Note: 
X-Note: Spam Score:   [6]
X-Note: Scan Time:  10:13:22 on 01 Sep 2005
X-Note: Spool File: 561528422420.EML
X-Note: Server Name:pool-70-23-152-133.ny325.east.verizon.net
X-Note: SMTP Sender:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Reverse DNS  IP: pool-70-23-152-133.ny325.east.verizon.net
[70.23.152.133]
X-Note: Recipient(s):   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Note: Country Chain:  UNITED STATES-destination
X-Note: Failed Weights:   SORBS-DUHL [4], DYNHELO [7], SPFUNKNOWN [0],
Filter_Country [0]
X-Note:  


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-01 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Troy, 

Good luck!  In order to get removed they want you to post to the NANAE 
newsgroup - see Q41/42 in this FAQ - http://www.spews.org/faq.html.  From 
their you will most likely be ridiculed.  I am sorry if I do not sound like 
a big fan of Spews but they are very aggressive and often list a lot of 
casuality IP's.  I have know folks in the casuality boat that had to 
re-addresses as spews tends to be unwilling to delist anything. 


Darrell

DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting on Declude Junkmail  Virus.  
http://www.invariantsystems.com 

Troy D. Hilton writes: 

Hey All, 


How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I
understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully removed.
But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do
provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you you're
listed. 

Any suggestions here? 


Troy D. Hilton
Serveon, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
302-529-8640 




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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file use?

2005-09-01 Thread Darin Cox
Title: What Header does Whitelist file use?



This may be an issue where the FROM listed in the 
email is different from the MAILFROM address found in the envelope.

If so, putting SWITCHRECIP ONin your Declude 
Global.cfg should fix it. You can read more about this config option in 
the Declude Junkmail manual.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Agid, Corby 

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file 
use?

Hello, 
I'm still having trouble whitelisting a few incoming 
messages. Can you tell me, what part of incoming mail does the 
whitelist trigger on? Should the reverse DNS" domain or the mail 
header, or the address listed in the To: list be used, or perhaps the helo 
information.
Below is an example of diagnostic from a message 
recently received along with my whitelist entry. Do I need to 
whitelist the reverse DNS (lunarpages.com) instead?
My current whitelist entry: @tempager.com 
HeaderCode: 
c020020c ReverseDNS: draco.lunarpages.com RemoteIP: 
216.193.215.150 Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
MessageID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quename: 
D5b4810be01c401ae.SMD Sniffer: 
Headers: Received: from draco.lunarpages.com 
[216.193.215.150] by msx.renoairport.com with ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id AB4810BE01C4; Mon, 29 Aug 
2005 12:00:24 -0700 Received: from 
localhost.int.lunarpages.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=draco.lunarpages.com) 
 by draco.lunarpages.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) 
 id 1E9orj-00075B-Vq; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:00:19 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: TemPageR_Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 
5 To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5p1 Precedence: list List-Id: TemPageR User Group 
tempager_users_tempager.com.tempager.com List-Unsubscribe: http://tempager.com/mailman/listinfo/tempager_users_tempager.com, 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/tempager_users_tempager.com 
List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://tempager.com/mailman/listinfo/tempager_users_tempager.com, 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track 
abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - 
draco.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: 
Original Domain - renoairport.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] 
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - 
tempager.com X-Source: 
X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file use?

2005-09-01 Thread Darin Cox
Title: What Header does Whitelist file use?



One other thing...

Make sure you have a carriage return at the end of 
the file. If there isn't one on the last line, the last line will not be 
used.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Darin Cox 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file 
use?

This may be an issue where the FROM listed in the 
email is different from the MAILFROM address found in the envelope.

If so, putting SWITCHRECIP ONin your Declude 
Global.cfg should fix it. You can read more about this config option in 
the Declude Junkmail manual.
Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: Agid, Corby 

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:09 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file 
use?

Hello, 
I'm still having trouble whitelisting a few incoming 
messages. Can you tell me, what part of incoming mail does the 
whitelist trigger on? Should the reverse DNS" domain or the mail 
header, or the address listed in the To: list be used, or perhaps the helo 
information.
Below is an example of diagnostic from a message 
recently received along with my whitelist entry. Do I need to 
whitelist the reverse DNS (lunarpages.com) instead?
My current whitelist entry: @tempager.com 
HeaderCode: 
c020020c ReverseDNS: draco.lunarpages.com RemoteIP: 
216.193.215.150 Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
MessageID: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quename: 
D5b4810be01c401ae.SMD Sniffer: 
Headers: Received: from draco.lunarpages.com 
[216.193.215.150] by msx.renoairport.com with ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id AB4810BE01C4; Mon, 29 Aug 
2005 12:00:24 -0700 Received: from 
localhost.int.lunarpages.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=draco.lunarpages.com) 
 by draco.lunarpages.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) 
 id 1E9orj-00075B-Vq; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:00:19 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: TemPageR_Users Digest, Vol 7, Issue 
5 To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5p1 Precedence: list List-Id: TemPageR User Group 
tempager_users_tempager.com.tempager.com List-Unsubscribe: http://tempager.com/mailman/listinfo/tempager_users_tempager.com, 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: /pipermail/tempager_users_tempager.com 
List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://tempager.com/mailman/listinfo/tempager_users_tempager.com, 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track 
abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - 
draco.lunarpages.com X-AntiAbuse: 
Original Domain - renoairport.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] 
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - 
tempager.com X-Source: 
X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-01 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: OT - Removal from SPEWS



Hi,

one approach could be - "why bother".SPEWS is useful 
as a reference - but can't be used to block email.I would think that none 
of the relevant ISPs and most smaller will care of you're listed there or not as 
the blacklist has a way too high false positive rate.

Whoever blocks based on SPEWS will miss much more 
legitimate mail than just yours that they really can't claim to 
have'functional' mail server anyway.
Best 
RegardsAndy SchmidtPhone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 
(Business)Fax: +1 201 934-9206 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Troy D. 
HiltonSent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 01:00 PMTo: 
Declude Junkmail ForumSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from 
SPEWS

Hey 
All,
How does one go about 
getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I understand how I got listed 
and that problem has been successfully removed. But now is the 
daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do provide some sort of 
removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you youre 
listed.
Any suggestions 
here?
Troy D. 
Hilton
Serveon, 
Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
302-529-8640



RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-01 Thread Troy D. Hilton
Gee- thanks! (sigh) Why do some folks make things so hard to deal with? I
don't deny that for a time my servers were relegated to spamming resources
(I hate Trojans and malware) but this issues have since been resolved. Seems
to me that a reputable organization should provide the means to clear their
name/IP address.

Thanks anyway. I may just have to hope that no one really uses SPEWS.

Troy D. Hilton
Serveon, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
302-529-8640

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:45 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

Troy, 

Good luck!  In order to get removed they want you to post to the NANAE 
newsgroup - see Q41/42 in this FAQ - http://www.spews.org/faq.html.  From 
their you will most likely be ridiculed.  I am sorry if I do not sound like 
a big fan of Spews but they are very aggressive and often list a lot of 
casuality IP's.  I have know folks in the casuality boat that had to 
re-addresses as spews tends to be unwilling to delist anything. 

Darrell
 
DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting on Declude Junkmail  Virus.  
http://www.invariantsystems.com 

Troy D. Hilton writes: 

 Hey All, 
 
 How does one go about getting their IP address delisted with SPEWS? I
 understand how I got listed and that problem has been successfully
removed.
 But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While most blacklists do
 provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only tell you you're
 listed. 
 
 Any suggestions here? 
 
 Troy D. Hilton
 Serveon, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 302-529-8640 
 
 

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-01 Thread Denny Jodeit
Troy,

Last year, I set up with a new provider and the Class C I was given was
part of an infamous spam lawsuit many years eariler, but it was still
listed on SPEWS. Just as you've been told, I posted to NANAE and was
ridiculed, but one kind soul advised me to call my provider ASAP and ask
for a different Class C network, which I did and the provider apologized
and credited my account one month for the trouble.obviously, I
didn't 'need' to be removed after that.



 
 Troy, 
 
 Good luck!  In order to get removed they want you to post to 
 the NANAE 
 newsgroup - see Q41/42 in this FAQ - 
 http://www.spews.org/faq.html.  From 
 their you will most 
 likely be ridiculed.  I am sorry if I do not sound like 
 a big fan of Spews but they are very aggressive and often 
 list a lot of 
 casuality IP's.  I have know folks in the casuality boat that had to 
 re-addresses as spews tends to be unwilling to delist anything. 
 
 Darrell
  
 --
 --
 DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting on Declude Junkmail  Virus.  
 http://www.invariantsystems.com 
 
 Troy D. Hilton writes: 
 
  Hey All, 
  
  How does one go about getting their IP address delisted 
 with SPEWS? I
  understand how I got listed and that problem has been 
 successfully removed.
  But now is the daunting task of getting delisted. While 
 most blacklists do
  provide some sort of removal process, SPEWS seems to only 
 tell you you're
  listed. 
  
  Any suggestions here? 
  
  Troy D. Hilton
  Serveon, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  302-529-8640 
  
  
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd Spam Scoring?

2005-09-01 Thread Dave Beckstrom
David,

Ah!   Thanks.

That makes sense now.  I forgot about hidetests hiding the results of the
other filters.



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
 Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:13 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd Spam Scoring?
 
  X-Note: Failed Weights:   SORBS-DUHL [4], DYNHELO [7] is certain 11 but
 check you global.cfg
 
 HIDETESTS CATCHALLMAILS IPNOTINMX NOLEGITCONTENT
 
 NOLEGITCONTENTnolegitcontent  x   x   0   -5
 IPNOTINMX ipnotinmx   x   x   0
 -3
 
 SORBS-DUHL[4]
 DYNHELO   [7]
 NOLEGITCONTENT[-5]
 
 Total = 6
 
 David B
 www.declude.com
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Beckstrom
 Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:27 PM
 To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Odd Spam Scoring?
 
 
 
 This spam came in today.  Note that it was scored a weight of 6.  Yet it
 failed two tests that were supposed to add a weight of 4 and a weight of
 7.
 
 
 Now, I wasn't the best in math but I believe 4 and 7 adds up to 11!  There
 were no negative weights assigned to account for this.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
 
 
 X-Priority: 3
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file use?

2005-09-01 Thread Agid, Corby
Title: What Header does Whitelist file use?



Hi Darin,

I just checked the manual regarding 
theSWITCHRECIP ON. The description sounds like it 
affects who the message is addressed to rather than where it comes from. 
Am I missing something?

Corby

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin 
  CoxSent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 1:02 PMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] What 
  Header does Whitelist file use?
  
  This may be an issue where the FROM listed in the 
  email is different from the MAILFROM address found in the 
  envelope.
  
  If so, putting SWITCHRECIP ONin your 
  Declude Global.cfg should fix it. You can read more about this config 
  option in the Declude Junkmail manual.
  Darin.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Agid, 
  Corby 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:09 PM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] What Header does Whitelist file 
  use?
  
  Hello, 
  I'm still having trouble whitelisting a few 
  incoming messages. Can you tell me, what part of incoming mail 
  does the whitelist trigger on? Should the reverse DNS" domain or 
  the mail header, or the address listed in the To: list be used, or perhaps the 
  helo information.
  Below is an example of diagnostic from a message 
  recently received along with my whitelist entry. Do I need to 
  whitelist the reverse DNS (lunarpages.com) instead?
  My current whitelist entry: @tempager.com 
  HeaderCode: 
  c020020c ReverseDNS: draco.lunarpages.com 
  RemoteIP: 216.193.215.150 
  Testname: WEIGHT10-29B 
  MessageID: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quename: 
  D5b4810be01c401ae.SMD Sniffer: 
  Headers: Received: from 
  draco.lunarpages.com [216.193.215.150] by msx.renoairport.com with 
  ESMTP  (SMTPD32-8.15) id 
  AB4810BE01C4; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:00:24 -0700 Received: from localhost.int.lunarpages.com 
  ([127.0.0.1] helo=draco.lunarpages.com) 
   by draco.lunarpages.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) 
   id 1E9orj-00075B-Vq; Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:00:19 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject: TemPageR_Users Digest, Vol 7, 
  Issue 5 To: 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-01 Thread Michael Jaworski
We just moved to a new network provider. Never thought to check the new IPs.
Never again! Within a few days we started getting calls from customers
complaining about delivery failures not to mention being called a spamming
ISP. Research found our three class c's were in a large netblock which Spews
and spambag listed since the network provider did not respond appropriately.
Although we find it incredible anyone would use Spews reality has shown
there are some ISPs who don't understand the impact of using Spews. Even an
ISP like yahoo.com.au. We will not be coerced or blackmailed into being a
David against Goliath situation. These types of idealist seem to have more
time and money than we do. As long as we run a clean shop and torture all
spammers in public we sleep at night. We finally had to get some clean IPs
for our outgoing SMTP servers. It sucks but the bottom line is ... it's all
about our customers not about Spews idealism.

Michael Jaworski
Puget Sound Network, Inc.
(206) 217-0400
(800) 599-9485



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT - Removal from SPEWS

2005-09-01 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Thanks anyway. I may just have to hope that no one really uses SPEWS.


I know for certain I won't use SPEWS.  I also suspect those that do use 
SPEWS don't weight it too high.  However, I have seen some servers block 
mail at the MTA level using SPEWS - why - I have no idea.


Darrell
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