Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Way OT: Server Room Cooling
We run a 25 ton mini-split in our computer room. It's the type where the fans are in the upper part of the wall, and all the guts are outside. Does a very good job. Raised flooring wasn't an option sadly. Sam Cris Porter wrote: Can anyone recommend a portable air conditioner to cool a 8'x10' server closet ? I'll have to vent it up thru a drop ceiling and I'm trying to find something that doesn't require frequent draining. Thanks, Cris Porter JVC America --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- S.J.Stanaitis Network Administrator, Decorative Product Source http://www.dpsource.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (877)-650-8054 x160 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT
The Declude staff let me know that v3 won't work on WinNT, so I think I can't delay the inevitable any longer. Just for fun, has anyone tried the v3 beta with IMail6 on WinNT? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT FYI, it appears the Beta may be wrapping up soon. So if you can, maybe wait a week or two for version 3.x. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:20 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT Kevin, The version that is compatible with 8.2x is going to be Declude version 3.0 which is still in beta testing. Although others have ran the 2.0.6 train with no issues under 8.2x - however others have not been so fortunate. Upgrading to the 2.0.6 install is fairly easy. Just run a manual install and copy over the new declude.exe to the imail directory. You might also want to go through the global.cfg for 2.0.6 and add any of the tests to your global.cfg that are missing. The installation for 3.0 is a little more involved. If you wanted to go that route you would need to sign up for the beta program. However, from reading your post it sounds like you might not be interested in the beta program. Let us know if you need anymore help, Darrell - DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus. http://www.invariantsystems.com Kevin Shimwell writes: Declude Teammates Well after several month of not wanting to upgrade. Here goes. Current Imail version 8.21. running 1 month inluding beta. Colaberation Suite IM running also. ( only the IM service portion) Currrent declude version Declude 1.79 (C) Copyright 2000-2004 Computerized Horizons. I also have Processor issues but have been manageable. I have a current service agreement with declude and want to upgrade to the most current declude.exe version. What should my procedure be? and what to look out for. Any helpful links or documentation including wise declude professional opinions welcome. I'm running window 2000 server latest patches and I wan to upgrade my declude. I'm running version: E:\IMaildeclude -diag Declude 1.79 (C) Copyright 2000-2004 Computerized Horizons. Diagnostics ON (Declude v1.79). Declude JunkMail: Config file found (E:\IMail\Declude\global.CFG). Declude Virus: Config file found (E:\IMail\Declude\Virus.CFG). Declude Hijack:Not installed (no E:\IMail\Declude\Hijack.CFG file). Declude Confirm: Not installed (no E:\IMail\Declude\Confirm.CFG file). 50 spam tests defined: AHBL BLITZEDALL CBL DSBL ORDB SBL SORBS-HTTP SORBS-SOCKS SORBS-MISC SORBS-SMTP SORBS-SPAM SORBS-WEB SORBS-BLOCK SORBS- ZOMBIE SORBS-DUHL S PAMCOP DSN NOABUSE NOPOSTMASTER BONDEDSENDER BADHEADERS BASE64 CMDSPACE COMMENTS HELOBOGUS IPNOTINMX MAILFROM NOLEGITCONTENT PERCENT REVDNS ROUTING SPAMHEADERS IPLINKED IPLINKED2 MYFILTER KILLFROM SUBJECTFILTER BODYFILTER GIBBERISH ANTI-GIB BERISH SNIFFER WEIGHT10 WEIGHT20 WEIGHT1-10 WEIGHT11-20 WEIGHT21-34 WEIGHT35-45 WEIGHT46-200 CATCHALLMAILS WHITLIST IMail reports Official Host Name as: scooby.linkbrokers.com. IMail's SendName registry seems OK: E:\IMail\declude.exe. DNS Server: 66.153.205.8 Declude JunkMail Status: PRO version registered. Declude Virus Status:Pro Version Registered. Declude Hijack Status: NOT REGISTERED: No activation code. Kevin Shimwell Link Brokers Group, LLC ( Support ) 1600 Hwy 17 South North Myrtle Beach, SC 29582 Phone: 843-663-1004 Fax: 843-663-1007 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7 Help : http://www.linkbrokers.com/help_ticket.cfm http://www.linkbrokers.com/help_ticket.cfm Support Forum: http://www.linkbrokers.com/chatboard/index.cfm?CFB=1 Support M-F 1-888-546-5631 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity towhich it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and/or e-mail. -- -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT
John, I have tried the Beta on NT4 it seemed to run ok the service etc worked. I did not see any inherent problems, but then again this was not a detailed test but rather I just wanted to see if it would run and it did. David B www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Shacklett Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:55 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT The Declude staff let me know that v3 won't work on WinNT, so I think I can't delay the inevitable any longer. Just for fun, has anyone tried the v3 beta with IMail6 on WinNT? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT FYI, it appears the Beta may be wrapping up soon. So if you can, maybe wait a week or two for version 3.x. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:20 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT Kevin, The version that is compatible with 8.2x is going to be Declude version 3.0 which is still in beta testing. Although others have ran the 2.0.6 train with no issues under 8.2x - however others have not been so fortunate. Upgrading to the 2.0.6 install is fairly easy. Just run a manual install and copy over the new declude.exe to the imail directory. You might also want to go through the global.cfg for 2.0.6 and add any of the tests to your global.cfg that are missing. The installation for 3.0 is a little more involved. If you wanted to go that route you would need to sign up for the beta program. However, from reading your post it sounds like you might not be interested in the beta program. Let us know if you need anymore help, Darrell - DLAnalyzer - Comprehensive reporting for Declude Junkmail and Virus. http://www.invariantsystems.com Kevin Shimwell writes: Declude Teammates Well after several month of not wanting to upgrade. Here goes. Current Imail version 8.21. running 1 month inluding beta. Colaberation Suite IM running also. ( only the IM service portion) Currrent declude version Declude 1.79 (C) Copyright 2000-2004 Computerized Horizons. I also have Processor issues but have been manageable. I have a current service agreement with declude and want to upgrade to the most current declude.exe version. What should my procedure be? and what to look out for. Any helpful links or documentation including wise declude professional opinions welcome. I'm running window 2000 server latest patches and I wan to upgrade my declude. I'm running version: E:\IMaildeclude -diag Declude 1.79 (C) Copyright 2000-2004 Computerized Horizons. Diagnostics ON (Declude v1.79). Declude JunkMail: Config file found (E:\IMail\Declude\global.CFG). Declude Virus: Config file found (E:\IMail\Declude\Virus.CFG). Declude Hijack:Not installed (no E:\IMail\Declude\Hijack.CFG file). Declude Confirm: Not installed (no E:\IMail\Declude\Confirm.CFG file). 50 spam tests defined: AHBL BLITZEDALL CBL DSBL ORDB SBL SORBS-HTTP SORBS-SOCKS SORBS-MISC SORBS-SMTP SORBS-SPAM SORBS-WEB SORBS-BLOCK SORBS- ZOMBIE SORBS-DUHL S PAMCOP DSN NOABUSE NOPOSTMASTER BONDEDSENDER BADHEADERS BASE64 CMDSPACE COMMENTS HELOBOGUS IPNOTINMX MAILFROM NOLEGITCONTENT PERCENT REVDNS ROUTING SPAMHEADERS IPLINKED IPLINKED2 MYFILTER KILLFROM SUBJECTFILTER BODYFILTER GIBBERISH ANTI-GIB BERISH SNIFFER WEIGHT10 WEIGHT20 WEIGHT1-10 WEIGHT11-20 WEIGHT21-34 WEIGHT35-45 WEIGHT46-200 CATCHALLMAILS WHITLIST IMail reports Official Host Name as: scooby.linkbrokers.com. IMail's SendName registry seems OK: E:\IMail\declude.exe. DNS Server: 66.153.205.8 Declude JunkMail Status: PRO version registered. Declude Virus Status:Pro Version Registered. Declude Hijack Status: NOT REGISTERED: No activation code. Kevin Shimwell Link Brokers Group, LLC ( Support ) 1600 Hwy 17 South North Myrtle Beach, SC 29582 Phone: 843-663-1004 Fax: 843-663-1007 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7 Help : http://www.linkbrokers.com/help_ticket.cfm http://www.linkbrokers.com/help_ticket.cfm Support Forum: http://www.linkbrokers.com/chatboard/index.cfm?CFB=1 Support M-F 1-888-546-5631 This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity towhich it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 3 Beta - dual-processor?
Can the beta testers with dual-CPU machines confirm that the latest Beta Built is now running without creating the previously reported backlog problems? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] UPGRADE REPEAT FYI, it appears the Beta may be wrapping up soon. So if you can, maybe wait a week or two for version 3.x. John T eServices For You --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4 Notes
Declude 3.0.4 Beta Notes 1.) Installation – Service installed with no issue. Proc and work directory were created. 2.) Service stability – Service was very stable. Did not stop unexpectantly. Service was stopped and restarted multiple times. No files were left stranded in the work directory. 3.) By default it still seems to suffer from the multi-processor sleep issue documented as issue 20905001 on the beta page. Used the WAITFORMAIL setting to compensate for this. Observations: CPU usage on average is double of what is required for 2.0.6. Please see the following CPU graphs. System is a dual xeon 2.8 GHZ machine with HT enabled. 2.6 - http://www.invariantsystems.com/declude26.gif (Average 24%) 3.0 - http://www.invariantsystems.com/declude30.gif (Average 53%) Logs: Noticed even under MID and HIGH logs the time is being stamped with milliseconds. Is this going to be carried over into the release or is this a beta addition only? Functionality: No real issues kept up with the load with THREADS set to 20 and WAITFORMAIL set to 1 second. Major features worked (hold, delete, external tests, etc). While the beta seems to be progressing along smooth the CPU usage jump has me very concerned since 2.0.6 does not even flinch at our volume 100K+ messages a day. Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4 Notes
Hi Darrell - thanks for reporting back. Okay, so my dual-processor system is still not compatible with the beta. (I did not beta-test, since I don't have a single-processor machine.) Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:39 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4 Notes Declude 3.0.4 Beta Notes 1.) Installation - Service installed with no issue. Proc and work directory were created. 2.) Service stability - Service was very stable. Did not stop unexpectantly. Service was stopped and restarted multiple times. No files were left stranded in the work directory. 3.) By default it still seems to suffer from the multi-processor sleep issue documented as issue 20905001 on the beta page. Used the WAITFORMAIL setting to compensate for this. Observations: CPU usage on average is double of what is required for 2.0.6. Please see the following CPU graphs. System is a dual xeon 2.8 GHZ machine with HT enabled. 2.6 - http://www.invariantsystems.com/declude26.gif (Average 24%) 3.0 - http://www.invariantsystems.com/declude30.gif (Average 53%) Logs: Noticed even under MID and HIGH logs the time is being stamped with milliseconds. Is this going to be carried over into the release or is this a beta addition only? Functionality: No real issues kept up with the load with THREADS set to 20 and WAITFORMAIL set to 1 second. Major features worked (hold, delete, external tests, etc). While the beta seems to be progressing along smooth the CPU usage jump has me very concerned since 2.0.6 does not even flinch at our volume 100K+ messages a day. Darrell Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 3 Beta - dual-processor?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:35 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Version 3 Beta - dual-processor? Can the beta testers with dual-CPU machines confirm that the latest Beta Built is now running without creating the previously reported backlog problems? Best Regards Andy Schmidt Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 Our dual processor had issues with it as reported ealier this week. Sincerely, Support Department Global Web SolutionsR, Inc. 804-346-5300 x112 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) x112 http://globalweb.net Global Web Solutions is a registered trademark of Global Web Solutions, Inc., Glen Allen, VA --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Are the suggested defaults David B www.declude.com PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some feedback from developers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:59 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings. In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization. 1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS. 2. FAST server Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization. When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. If the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. David B www.declude.com When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
David, too clarify, is that THREAD or THREADS? Originally it was THREAD. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:00 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Are the suggested defaults David B www.declude.com PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some feedback from developers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:59 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
John, It has always been THREADS From the Beta page: Performance 1. Create a file in your Declude folder called declude.cfg 2. Add the following directive THREADS 5 3. The default is 5 threads 4. This value can be adjusted to allow more threads to run David Barker www.declude.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:34 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, too clarify, is that THREAD or THREADS? Originally it was THREAD. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:00 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Are the suggested defaults David B www.declude.com PS. Darrell, I will answer your question shortly, just waiting on some feedback from developers. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Grosshandler Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:59 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted Are these the suggested defaults? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:41 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Thank you David - will let you know if I see any issues! -Nick David Barker wrote: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
David, Am I to assume that the identifiers "SLOW server" and "FAST server" are completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization? For instance, I have a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU utilization, especially in spikes. So is the trick here really just the CPU load? Another question along these lines...High CPU utilization can happen on any server because of the burstiness of the traffic, and it is these high CPU utilization periods that really matter to people like myself as I could pretty much care less about a 1 second delay on normal E-mail in comparison to processing a huge backlog of messages. It would seem wise to then just leave the settings set for a heavily loaded server. One alternative to manually specifying settings that are tied to notoriously bursty traffic would be to let the program manage this for us. I believe that Sniffer does this for instance and maybe Pete will chime in, or maybe he has already in private. It would seem that Declude could adjust things based on it's own spool of messages to process as these would be indicative of the traffic and the ability of a machine to handle that traffic. Matt David Barker wrote: Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings. In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization. 1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS. 2. FAST server Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization. When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. If the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. David B www.declude.com When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted
Am I to assume that the identifiers SLOW server and FAST server are completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization? For instance, I have a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU utilization, especially in spikes. So is the trick here really just the CPU load? Correct CPU Load is the key but one should also take into account the CPU speed. e.g.. A SLOW server could be 800 Mhz with 256 MB ram. In which case you do not want to be using a high thread count and you want to give the CPU sufficient time between threads to do other things. It would seem wise to then just leave the settings set for a heavily loaded server. If that is your preference yes. We have not yet discovered the optimal numbers as it does have to do a lot with the environment, server traffic, load etc. So by adding these directives gives those who would like to tweak the system the ability to do so. David Barker www.declude.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 1:01 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Am I to assume that the identifiers SLOW server and FAST server are completely relative to the amount of CPU utilization? For instance, I have a very fast server, but it does a ton of work and can experience high CPU utilization, especially in spikes. So is the trick here really just the CPU load? Another question along these lines...High CPU utilization can happen on any server because of the burstiness of the traffic, and it is these high CPU utilization periods that really matter to people like myself as I could pretty much care less about a 1 second delay on normal E-mail in comparison to processing a huge backlog of messages. It would seem wise to then just leave the settings set for a heavily loaded server. One alternative to manually specifying settings that are tied to notoriously bursty traffic would be to let the program manage this for us. I believe that Sniffer does this for instance and maybe Pete will chime in, or maybe he has already in private. It would seem that Declude could adjust things based on it's own spool of messages to process as these would be indicative of the traffic and the ability of a machine to handle that traffic. Matt David Barker wrote: Different systems / configuration respond differently to these settings. In particular they to fine tune through-put with CPU utilization. 1. SLOW server that is heavily loaded You may want to try to increase WAITBETWEENTHREADS and lower THREADS. 2. FAST server Use the THREADS and WAITFORTHREADS to adjust the CPU utilization. When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but after that the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. If the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. David B www.declude.com When decludeproc first starts up it will use a lot of the CPU but once it gets cooking the %CPU used by decludeproc should come way down. The %CPU of all processes running may be high depending on external tests, other processes, etc. It the system is spiking but coming down quickly that's good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 11:51 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Beta 3.0.4.4 Posted David, Can you go over how you see them helping and what the positive benefit would be in tweaking those values? For example: by setting the WAITBETWEENTHREADS to 1 second it will help by . Darrell David Barker writes: 2 new Directives WAITFORTHREADS 1500 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1500 = 1.5 seconds this can be changed so that when the maximum threads are in use this time specifics the wait before checking to launch more threads. WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Located in the Declude.cfg - Defined in milliseconds eg. 1 = 1 millisecond The time to wait between spawning one thread and starting to process another thread. David B www.declude.com --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And Imail. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe
[Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4.4 Problem
IMail 8.05 HF3 Downloaded and installed 3.0.4.4. Message file pairs were appearing in the 'proc' folder, subsequently moved to 'work' folder, then dispositioned as needed. Observed this for 10-15 minutes, then went about business. Checking back, I found that the 'decludedproc.exe' service was stopped, and that approximately 400 messasges were sitting in the 'proc' folder. Restarted the service only to have it immediately stop. Tried serveral more times and got the same results. My 'declude.cfg' file contained the following: THREADS 5 WAITFORMAIL 1 WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Since this was a similar situation as before, I stopped the 'decludeproc.exe' and IMail services, then copied those 400 messages to a temporary folder. Uninstalled 3.0.4.4 and re-installed 3.0.3, and started everything up. Grabbed the first 5 message file pairs in the temporary folder and put them in the 'proc' folder. I watched them get transferred to the 'work' folder. Within 30 seconds, the 'decludeproc.exe' version 3.0.3 stopped. I attempted to restart the service serveral times, but it would immediately stop. Copied the 5 message pairs back to the temporary folder. I made certain 'decludeproc.exe' version 3.0.3 had started. Then, starting with the LAST set of 5 message file pairs in the temporary folder, copied them to the 'proc' folder and watched them get processed. After 5 sets (and slowly working my way back to the top were the original 5 message file pairs are), thought I better post this to warn others. When (and if) I determine which file is causing both versions 3.0.3 and 3.0.4.4 to stop, I will send it and the log files to Declude for analysis. -- Kim W. Premuda FastWave Internet Services San Diego, CA -- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4.4 Problem
I would ask that you go back to 3.0.4.4 and keep running. If you have this problem again, please do the same think and isolate the files, then send them to Declude along with the log files. This was seen before and was hopefully fixed, but if you are seeing it please continue to run 3.0.4.4 and if possible put the Declude JM log into debug. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Premuda Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:43 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4.4 Problem IMail 8.05 HF3 Downloaded and installed 3.0.4.4. Message file pairs were appearing in the 'proc' folder, subsequently moved to 'work' folder, then dispositioned as needed. Observed this for 10-15 minutes, then went about business. Checking back, I found that the 'decludedproc.exe' service was stopped, and that approximately 400 messasges were sitting in the 'proc' folder. Restarted the service only to have it immediately stop. Tried serveral more times and got the same results. My 'declude.cfg' file contained the following: THREADS 5 WAITFORMAIL 1 WAITFORTHREADS 1500 WAITBETWEENTHREADS 1 Since this was a similar situation as before, I stopped the 'decludeproc.exe' and IMail services, then copied those 400 messages to a temporary folder. Uninstalled 3.0.4.4 and re-installed 3.0.3, and started everything up. Grabbed the first 5 message file pairs in the temporary folder and put them in the 'proc' folder. I watched them get transferred to the 'work' folder. Within 30 seconds, the 'decludeproc.exe' version 3.0.3 stopped. I attempted to restart the service serveral times, but it would immediately stop. Copied the 5 message pairs back to the temporary folder. I made certain 'decludeproc.exe' version 3.0.3 had started. Then, starting with the LAST set of 5 message file pairs in the temporary folder, copied them to the 'proc' folder and watched them get processed. After 5 sets (and slowly working my way back to the top were the original 5 message file pairs are), thought I better post this to warn others. When (and if) I determine which file is causing both versions 3.0.3 and 3.0.4.4 to stop, I will send it and the log files to Declude for analysis. -- Kim W. Premuda FastWave Internet Services San Diego, CA -- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Beta 3.0.4.4 Problem
-- Original Message -- From: John Tolmachoff \(Lists\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:49:41 -0700 I would ask that you go back to 3.0.4.4 and keep running. If you have this problem again, please do the same think and isolate the files, then send them to Declude along with the log files. This was seen before and was hopefully fixed, but if you are seeing it please continue to run 3.0.4.4 and if possible put the Declude JM log into debug. John, I did manage to isolate the message file pair that caused the problem and sent them, along with the log file (set to DEBUG mode), to Declude. Hopefully, the developers at Declude can spot something in the log file. -- Kim W. Premuda FastWave Internet Services San Diego, CA -- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
