Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Farris
I have already deactivated Spamcop...should I just leave it that way..I have 
seen where spamcop caught some pretty nasty email..but the declude may have 
caught it anyway...


Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet

- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop


gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went via 
a server listed in spamcop.  Spamcop these days has been proving to be 
less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often AOL, Earthlink, Gmail, 
Attbi, and other big ISP's get listed...

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


Richard Farris writes:
I just sent myself 4 messages all the same from my gmail to my ethixs.com 
account and 3 came thru and one got caught in the filter because of 
spamcop? 3 of the messages had a weight of 0 and the one that was caught 
had a weight of 33does this make any sense...all the messages were 
the same except I put test 1, test 2, test 3 and test 4 in the subject.. 
Richard Farris

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Matt

Richard,

Last I checked, SpamCop was tagging about 50% of all of my spam, and 
while it certainly isn't perfect, it doesn't tag IP's that are perfectly 
clean.  It is somewhat doubtful that one could remove SpamCop and not 
see more spam leakage.  As a Declude user, I think that you might want 
to consider changing the weight that you apply to SpamCop instead, and 
make sure that you aren't automatically taking action on just that 
single hit.


Personally I have few problems with SpamCop, and when they occur, they 
are almost always with bulk E-mail.  Since I weight it low enough and it 
takes multiple false positives to result in blocking a legitimate 
personal E-mail on my system, hits from SpamCop on places like Gmail, 
AOL, etc. go almost completely unnoticed.  The bulk E-mail is a 
different story though because many places have false positive issues 
with such traffic and varying definitions of spam, but people rarely 
complain about missing something like an Overstock.com ad if they do get 
blocked.


Matt



Richard Farris wrote:

I have already deactivated Spamcop...should I just leave it that 
way..I have seen where spamcop caught some pretty nasty email..but the 
declude may have caught it anyway...


Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet

- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop


gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages 
went via a server listed in spamcop.  Spamcop these days has been 
proving to be less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often 
AOL, Earthlink, Gmail, Attbi, and other big ISP's get listed...

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude 
And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI 
integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


Richard Farris writes:

I just sent myself 4 messages all the same from my gmail to my 
ethixs.com account and 3 came thru and one got caught in the filter 
because of spamcop? 3 of the messages had a weight of 0 and the one 
that was caught had a weight of 33does this make any sense...all 
the messages were the same except I put test 1, test 2, test 3 and 
test 4 in the subject.. Richard Farris

Ethixs Online
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Scott Fisher

For me this month spamcop has been correct 99.3% of the time.
It has detected about 45% of all spams.

- Original Message - 
From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop


I have already deactivated Spamcop...should I just leave it that way..I 
have seen where spamcop caught some pretty nasty email..but the declude may 
have caught it anyway...


Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet

- Original Message - 
From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop


gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went 
via a server listed in spamcop.  Spamcop these days has been proving to 
be less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often AOL, Earthlink, 
Gmail, Attbi, and other big ISP's get listed...

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


Richard Farris writes:
I just sent myself 4 messages all the same from my gmail to my 
ethixs.com account and 3 came thru and one got caught in the filter 
because of spamcop? 3 of the messages had a weight of 0 and the one that 
was caught had a weight of 33does this make any sense...all the 
messages were the same except I put test 1, test 2, test 3 and test 4 in 
the subject.. Richard Farris

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
For my system I would not deactivate it, but the weight assigned to it is 
not very much.  It's a good test when used in a well structured weighting 
system. 


Darrell

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Supports all versions of Declude from 1.5x - 3.x.  
http://www.invariantsystems.com 

Richard Farris writes: 

I have already deactivated Spamcop...should I just leave it that way..I 
have seen where spamcop caught some pretty nasty email..but the declude 
may have caught it anyway... 


Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet 

- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop 



gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went 
via a server listed in spamcop.  Spamcop these days has been proving to 
be less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often AOL, Earthlink, 
Gmail, Attbi, and other big ISP's get listed...

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. 


Richard Farris writes:
I just sent myself 4 messages all the same from my gmail to my 
ethixs.com account and 3 came thru and one got caught in the filter 
because of spamcop? 3 of the messages had a weight of 0 and the one that 
was caught had a weight of 33does this make any sense...all the 
messages were the same except I put test 1, test 2, test 3 and test 4 in 
the subject.. Richard Farris

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1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
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[Declude.JunkMail] FW: Memory leak

2005-11-22 Thread John Doyle


Hi all
I'm suffering with a connectivity issue.
After about 4 to 6 hours I lose the ability
to query spam databases. If I restart decludeproc
I can again connect to the databases. I also
have a slow memory creep. It will slowly climb 
and I don't know if this is the cause of the loss
of connectivity or not. I've added winsockcleanup on
to my declude.cfg file, but still have the memmory 
creep.
This problem started after upgrading declude from 2.x to 3.0.5.20

Any thoughts.

Imail 8.15 hf2
windows server 2003
declude 3.0.5.20

Thanks John

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Travis Sullivan
With this being said, no spam test is perfect.  Therefore, I don't recomend 
a single test, regardless how effective it is, being equal to your 
hold/delete weight.


I love the spamcop test, however, it is set to 60% of my hold weight, 
requiring another test or two to fail before the email is held.


Removing spamcop from your testing would be a mistake IMHO.

Travis

- Original Message - 
From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop



Richard,

Last I checked, SpamCop was tagging about 50% of all of my spam, and while 
it certainly isn't perfect, it doesn't tag IP's that are perfectly clean. 
It is somewhat doubtful that one could remove SpamCop and not see more 
spam leakage.  As a Declude user, I think that you might want to consider 
changing the weight that you apply to SpamCop instead, and make sure that 
you aren't automatically taking action on just that single hit.


Personally I have few problems with SpamCop, and when they occur, they are 
almost always with bulk E-mail.  Since I weight it low enough and it takes 
multiple false positives to result in blocking a legitimate personal 
E-mail on my system, hits from SpamCop on places like Gmail, AOL, etc. go 
almost completely unnoticed.  The bulk E-mail is a different story though 
because many places have false positive issues with such traffic and 
varying definitions of spam, but people rarely complain about missing 
something like an Overstock.com ad if they do get blocked.


Matt



Richard Farris wrote:

I have already deactivated Spamcop...should I just leave it that way..I 
have seen where spamcop caught some pretty nasty email..but the declude 
may have caught it anyway...


Richard Farris
Ethixs Online
1.270.247. Office
1.800.548.3877 Tech Support
Crossroads to a Cleaner Internet

- Original Message - From: Darrell 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop


gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went 
via a server listed in spamcop.  Spamcop these days has been proving to 
be less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often AOL, Earthlink, 
Gmail, Attbi, and other big ISP's get listed...

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, 
MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers.


Richard Farris writes:

I just sent myself 4 messages all the same from my gmail to my 
ethixs.com account and 3 came thru and one got caught in the filter 
because of spamcop? 3 of the messages had a weight of 0 and the one 
that was caught had a weight of 33does this make any sense...all 
the messages were the same except I put test 1, test 2, test 3 and test 
4 in the subject.. Richard Farris

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF

2005-11-22 Thread Kim Premuda
This is what we have in our 'global.cfg' file:

   SPFFAIL spffail x x 3 0

Is this old syntax? A remnant of version 1.86? We are currently running 
JunkMail 3.0.5.20.

Also, why are the weights all zero? Shouldn't a fail add weight, and a pass 
subtract weight? Or, am I misunderstanding the 'spf' test?

Thanks!

Kim



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From: David Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Date:  Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:26:13 -0500

This is the correct syntax.

SPFFAILspf failx   0   0
SPFPASSspf passx   0   0
SPFUNKNOWN spf unknown x   0   0 

David B
www.declude.com

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Morgan
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:00 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Global.cfg lines for SPF


 I use:
 SPFPASS   spf  pass x 0 0
 SPFUNKNOWN   spf  unknown x 0 0
 SPFFAIL   spf  fail x 50 0

  Set 1:
  SPFFAIL spf fail x 9 0
  SPFPASS spf pass x 0 0
 

Thanks for the quick responses. I did have the correct pair of lines in my
global.cfg file but I have received messages over the weekend which Imail's
SPF check marked as SPFFAIL but Declude did not. The messages were what
F-Prot is now calling W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED] and appear to be from my own 
domain.
Since I have an SPF record, they should have failed the Declude check but
they did not. As a result the first few that arrived before F-Prot updated
their databases and were delivered to my users. I'm aware of at least one
user who attempted to open the zip file.

Is this a bug in 2.0.6.16? Is it fixed in 3.0.5.20?

Brad Morgan
IT Manager
Horizon Interactive Inc.


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