Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ? Name Voting Time

2006-02-15 Thread Don Brown
I second that one, but maybe e-mail instead of mail.


Wednesday, February 15, 2006, 10:18:11 PM, Darin Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
DC> I'd like to vote for a write-in 

DC> Declude Mail Security Suite

DC> You can add a 4 in there if you want...as in

DC> Declude Mail Security Suite 4.0

DC> Darin.


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DC> From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DC> To: ; 
DC> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:39 PM
DC> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ? Name Voting Time


DC> Here are the choices:

DC> Please send your votes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] no later than 5pm Eastern Time
DC> Friday 17th February.

DC> -  Declude Quattro

DC> -  DEC4

DC> -  Suite4

DC> -  R/4 (release four)

DC> -  Declude Total

DC> -  Declude Power Suite 4

DC> -  Declude Max4

DC> -  Declude ForePlay just making sure you're paying attention)

DC> -  Declude-ES4 (E-mail security 4)

DC> Thanks

DC> Barry

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Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.
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(972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049


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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] ? Name Voting Time

2006-02-15 Thread Darin Cox
I'd like to vote for a write-in 

Declude Mail Security Suite

You can add a 4 in there if you want...as in

Declude Mail Security Suite 4.0

Darin.


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From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:39 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ? Name Voting Time


Here are the choices:

Please send your votes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] no later than 5pm Eastern Time
Friday 17th February.

-  Declude Quattro

-  DEC4

-  Suite4

-  R/4 (release four)

-  Declude Total

-  Declude Power Suite 4

-  Declude Max4

-  Declude ForePlay just making sure you're paying attention)

-  Declude-ES4 (E-mail security 4)

Thanks

Barry

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[Declude.JunkMail] Fw: [Declude.Virus] ? Name Voting Time

2006-02-15 Thread Imail Admin
First, I vote AGAINST anything with "4" in it.  Why 4?  You were calling it
version 4, but that's a complete misnomer.  Currently, it represents the
same feature set as the so-called version 3, so there is no reason to call
it version 4.  In addition, there are three components in it (AVA, JM, HJ),
so again there is nothing to indicate "four."  Am I missing something here?
It seems that any name with four in it or indicating a four (such as the
cute "Quattro") is actually misleading.  That's as bad as your current
process of naming it "version 4".

By process of elimination:
1. Quattro is not only inappropriate but a rip-off of the old Borland name.
And it leaves no room for future changes to the suite.
2. DEC4 is a waste, but DEC alone is redundant  from Declude, not to mention
confusing with Digital Equipment.  So that's out.
3. Suite4 can be salvaged by shortening to Suite.  This is completely
unoriginal, but at least it's honest and clear, leaving no room for doubt.
4. R/4 is another rip-off, and really doesn't explain the collective nature
of the different products.
5. Total is probably best, because it is just as clear as "Suite" but a
little more original.  And it doesn't have a stupid "4" in it.
6. Power Suite4.  Again, let's dump the 4.  Is "Power Suite" really any
better than just "Suite"?  Only to marketing types who live on tropical
islands and worship Donald Trump.
7. Max4 is another rip-off, and it doesn't explain the collective nature of
the combined products.
8. ForePlay sounds good to me.  What's your problem?
9. ES4 can be shortened to ES, but that's really just another wordplay on
"Suite" and "Power Suite".  You guys are kind of in a rut, huh?

Sounds like #5 is best, since your Puritan hearts won't let you pick #8.
Personally, I think you need to start the contest over and get some new
names altogether.  Is this really all the names you received?  Heck, I could
think up better names than this... wait, I did send in some names, and none
of them made the list.  So you guys filtered the choices before presenting
for a vote?  I thought you already admitted you don't know how to name
products?  So why would you try to list only your favorites.

Time to go back to #8 (wish I had thought of that one, even though it does
have a stupid "4" in it).

Ben
BC Web

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From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:39 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] ? Name Voting Time


> Here are the choices:
>
> Please send your votes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] no later than 5pm Eastern Time
> Friday 17th February.
>
> -  Declude Quattro
>
> -  DEC4
>
> -  Suite4
>
> -  R/4 (release four)
>
> -  Declude Total
>
> -  Declude Power Suite 4
>
> -  Declude Max4
>
> -  Declude ForePlay just making sure you're paying attention)
>
> -  Declude-ES4 (E-mail security 4)
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
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[Declude.JunkMail] IIS SMTP / IMAIL + Declude Same Box

2006-02-15 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
I am playing around with running IIS Smtp on the same box as my Imail + 
Declude installation.  I had some questions for folks that have already 
implemented this. 

1.) I know that IMAIL 8.15HF2 binds to all IP addresses.  I changed the smtp 
listen port to 26.  I installed IIS have it running and listening on 25 than 
forwarding outbound mail to 26. 

The headers show this on messages that flow through this configuration as: 


Received: from mail2.local.int [10.6.48.176] by mail2.local.int with ESMTP
 (SMTPD32-8.15) id A4662000D2; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 17:24:54 -0800
Received: from testclient ([10.6.48.100]) by mail2.local.int with Microsoft 
SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); 

Now my question is how does Declude handle this in relation to hops.  Since 
it adds an extra hop it will affect any HOP setting I have.  I know it 
doesnt 

Do you handle this by: IPBYPASS 10.6.48.176? Or do you just bind mssmtp to a 
different ip address and IPBYPASS that setting as you would if the box was 
just external. 

Darrell 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] ? Name Voting Time

2006-02-15 Thread Kevin Bilbee
I vote for

Declude Pro Suite V4



Kevin Bilbee

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 2:39 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] ? Name Voting Time
>
>
> Here are the choices:
>
> Please send your votes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] no later than 5pm Eastern Time
> Friday 17th February.
>
> -  Declude Quattro
>
> -  DEC4
>
> -  Suite4
>
> -  R/4 (release four)
>
> -  Declude Total
>
> -  Declude Power Suite 4
>
> -  Declude Max4
>
> -  Declude ForePlay just making sure you're paying attention)
>
> -  Declude-ES4 (E-mail security 4)
>
> Thanks
>
> Barry
>
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[Declude.JunkMail] ? Name Voting Time

2006-02-15 Thread Barry Simpson
Here are the choices:

Please send your votes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] no later than 5pm Eastern Time
Friday 17th February.

-  Declude Quattro

-  DEC4

-  Suite4

-  R/4 (release four)

-  Declude Total

-  Declude Power Suite 4

-  Declude Max4

-  Declude ForePlay just making sure you're paying attention)

-  Declude-ES4 (E-mail security 4)

Thanks

Barry

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion

2006-02-15 Thread Nick Hayer

X-Note:
X-Note: This email was scanned for spam. [Details at 
http://spamstats.madriveraccess.com]
X-Note: This email has been virus scanned by F-Prot,McAfee AV, and ClamAV.
X-Note: Please send abuse reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Country-Chain: 
X-Hello: 
X-Note: SMTP Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

X-Note: Sent from: [Revdns: mail.madriveraccess.com] [RemoteHostDomain: 
declude.com] [IP: 12.152.254.4] [SenderHost: madriveraccess.com]
X-Note: Spam [v:2.0.6.16] tests: Whitelisted
X-Note: Total spam weight of this E-mail is 0.
X-Note: Scan time: 17:34:26 on 15 Feb 2006
X-Note: Queue name: DAC7142510140C4AD.SMD
X-Note:

I have this space  -  209.200.34.0/24

-Nick


Matt wrote:

I originally only blacklisted some of their IP space that was known to 
spam and gave the rest of their space a few extra points, but late in 
2004 I decided to block everything from them:


69.42.64.0/19Webair Internet Development Inc/webair.com (Spam 
Host/House) [69.42.64.0 - 69.42.95.255] - 12/09/2004
209.200.0.0/19Webair Internet Development Inc/webair.com (Spam 
Host/House) [209.200.0.0 - 209.200.31.255] - 12/09/2004
216.130.188.0/24Webair Internet Development Inc/webair.com (Spam 
Host/House) [216.130.188.0 - 216.130.188.255] - 12/09/2004


This list very likely could be updated by checking ARIN for "Webair" 
and then cross checking that IP space in Senderbase.org just to make 
sure there aren't issues with false positives.  A quick check shows 
that I am probably missing a block or two.


Matt





Kevin Bilbee wrote:


What is known about this ISP

OrgName:Webair Internet Development Inc OrgID:  WAIR
Address:333 Jericho Tpke
Address:Suite 200
City:   Jericho
StateProv:  NY
PostalCode: 11753
Country:US


We are getting spam from them that is not on IP or URI black lists
Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(805) 520-5800 x7332

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Opinion

2006-02-15 Thread Matt
I originally only blacklisted some of their IP space that was known to 
spam and gave the rest of their space a few extra points, but late in 
2004 I decided to block everything from them:


69.42.64.0/19Webair Internet Development Inc/webair.com (Spam 
Host/House) [69.42.64.0 - 69.42.95.255] - 12/09/2004
209.200.0.0/19Webair Internet Development Inc/webair.com (Spam 
Host/House) [209.200.0.0 - 209.200.31.255] - 12/09/2004
216.130.188.0/24Webair Internet Development Inc/webair.com (Spam 
Host/House) [216.130.188.0 - 216.130.188.255] - 12/09/2004


This list very likely could be updated by checking ARIN for "Webair" and 
then cross checking that IP space in Senderbase.org just to make sure 
there aren't issues with false positives.  A quick check shows that I am 
probably missing a block or two.


Matt





Kevin Bilbee wrote:


What is known about this ISP

OrgName:Webair Internet Development Inc 
OrgID:  WAIR

Address:333 Jericho Tpke
Address:Suite 200
City:   Jericho
StateProv:  NY
PostalCode: 11753
Country:US


We are getting spam from them that is not on IP or URI black lists 


Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(805) 520-5800 x7332

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[Declude.JunkMail] Opinion

2006-02-15 Thread Kevin Bilbee
What is known about this ISP

OrgName:Webair Internet Development Inc 
OrgID:  WAIR
Address:333 Jericho Tpke
Address:Suite 200
City:   Jericho
StateProv:  NY
PostalCode: 11753
Country:US


We are getting spam from them that is not on IP or URI black lists 

Kevin Bilbee
Network Administrator
Standard Abrasives, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(805) 520-5800 x7332

Changing the way industry works. 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Doc for SM3-ver3 vs. ver4

2006-02-15 Thread Redbaran28








Is there documentation for “Processing Order”
using Smartermail 3 with junkmail ver3 vs. ver4? I have been testing SM3 with
ver3 and getting some unexplainable results.

 

It is in the doc’s for Imail but not SM.

 

This would really help.

 

Rick

 








RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How would I catch email like this?

2006-02-15 Thread mail-lists
  Thanks Darrell,

  Close to 24 hours since I implemented this and haven't had a single
message get through Declude+invURIBL!

Cavell McDermott
Network Administrator
Cottonwood Financial
972.753.0822 Office
214.403.4918 Cell
http://www.thecashstore.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:44 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How would I catch email like this?


Implement a URI filtering type application like our invURIBL.  The domain in

the email is listed in both SURBL and URIBL and would have been caught. 

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:benawarde.com.multi.surbl.org
Address:  127.0.0.102 

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:benawarde.com.multi.uribl.com
Address:  127.0.0.2 

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mail-lists writes: 

>   Never seen an e-mail like this.. Obviously didn't hit my bodyfilter for
> VIAGRA or VALIUM.  Not quite sure how to scan for something like this.  Or
> even give a better description of what it is..  When viewing it in html if
I
> go to highlight the readable text, it also highlights the garbled text on
> the right side of the page. 
> 
>   Thanks! 
> 
> Here is the body in plain text. 
> 
> 
> Hello 
> 
> VyI w AvGiRbAs  j $r3j,s7c5 y VvAaL r l p U n Mu b$k1u,k2 p 1dCqIvA o
LpImS
> n   w $ r 3s,h3 m 3k
> and many other http://www.benawarde.com 
> 
> Here is the HTML.. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello
>  
> VyI w
> AvG style="BORDER-LEFT: 0px; float: right">iRbAs  j
> $r3 style="BORDER-LEFT: 0px; float: right">j,s7c5 y
> 
> VvAaL style="BORDER-LEFT: 0px; float: right"> r l p U
> n Mu  style="BORDER-LEFT: 0px; float: right">b$k1u,k2 style="BORDER-LEFT: 0px; float: right"> p 1d
> CqIvA style="BORDER-LEFT: 0px; float: right"> o LpImS n
>   w $ style="BORDER-LEFT: 0px; float: right"> r 3s,h3 m
> 3k
>  
> and many other  href="http://www.benawarde.com";> size=2>http://www.benawarde.com 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Confidentiality Notice:  The information contained in this transmission is
intended only for the personal and confidential use of the
> designated recipient named above.  If the receiver of this transmission is
not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for
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prohibited.  If you are not the intended recipient, please
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Left over D*.SM$ files in proc\work

2006-02-15 Thread Goran Jovanovic








Thank Bill,

 

I will review what I have setup later and
get back to you.

 



Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bill Green dfn Systems
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006
11:52 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Left over D*.SM$ files in proc\work



 



Goran,





 





I was having the same issue. I seem
to have resolved it accidently while working on an ?unrelated? connectivity
issue. Since I was not focusing on the orphaned proc/work files as I made
changes, I do not know which change resolved this issue. These are the changes
I made:





 





In Queue Manager:





Disabled DNS Cache





Disabled Failed Domain Skipping





 





In SMTP Security Tab:





Disabled "Check Valid
Sender"





Disabled "Auto-deny possible
Hack Attempts"





 





Bill Green





dfn Systems





 





 







- Original Message - 





From: Goran Jovanovic 





 



Hi,

 

I have noticed that I am getting left over
D*.SM$ files in the proc\work directory. I am getting 2 to 4 of these per day
on a volume of 15-20K messages a day.





~~~





Anyone have any ideas about this?

 

Thanks

 

Goran Jovanovic

Omega Network Solutions










RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Susan Duncan









I’m pretty sure I don’t have
the pro version.  Does that mean that I cannot use country filters?

 



Susan Duncan 
Web/Communications Officer / Agent des Communications/web
Union of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées de l'Impôt
Tel: 613-235-6704 ext 240
Fax: 613-234-7290
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ute-sei.org/



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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: February 15, 2006 11:25 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
adding weight based on x-country-chain

 



all_list.dat should be in your
declude folder. Mine is dated 10/29/2005.





 





If you have JunkMail pro, you can
write the filters.





 





REMOTEIP 5 CONTAINS . is a trick
that I learned from Matt that essentially is always true. The sender's ip
address (REMOTEIP) should always have a period in it.





 







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From: Susan Duncan 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com






Sent: Wednesday,
February 15, 2006 9:50 AM





Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain





 



I was looking for this in
the documentation and didn’t find it in the Junkmail documentation

http://www.declude.com/Version/Manuals/JunkMail/JM_2.0.6.asp

 

I don’t see
anything about country nor remoteip the way you are using it (it’s a
variable as far as I can see).  I didn’t see anything on the
all_list.dat file either and I did text searches on the manual file.

 

I’m wondering if I
am just not looking in the right place.

 



Susan Duncan 
Web/Communications Officer / Agent des Communications/web
Union of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées de l'Impôt
Tel: 613-235-6704 ext 240
Fax: 613-234-7290
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ute-sei.org/



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: February 15, 2006 10:15 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
adding weight based on x-country-chain

 



The
COUNTRY filter is used for searching the last country in the country
chain. The COUNTRY filter requires the all_list.dat file. See the end of the
document for a link to this file.

COUNTRY was introduced in the 1.62.

 

The
COUNTRIES filter is used for searching all countries in the country
chain. The COUNTRIES filter requires the all_list.dat file. See the end of the
document for a link COUNTRIES was introduced in the 1.62 version.

 

You could use a filter of:

COUNTRY END IS US

COUNTRY END IS CA

REMOTEIP 5 CONTAINS .

 

 

 

 

 







- Original Message - 





From: Susan Duncan 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com






Sent: Wednesday,
February 15, 2006 8:48 AM





Subject:
[Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain





 



Is there a way to add a weight based
on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the chances of
mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly remote, so a
weight on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance of being
spam.

 

I couldn’t find anything in
the docs on it.

 

Susan Duncan 
Web/Communications Officer / Agent des Communications/web
Union of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées de l'Impôt
Tel: 613-235-6704 ext 240
Fax: 613-234-7290
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ute-sei.org/

 












Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Left over D*.SM$ files in proc\work

2006-02-15 Thread Bill Green dfn Systems



Goran,
 
I was having the same issue. I seem to have 
resolved it accidently while working on an ?unrelated? connectivity issue. Since 
I was not focusing on the orphaned proc/work files as I made changes, I do not 
know which change resolved this issue. These are the changes I 
made:
 
In Queue Manager:
Disabled DNS Cache
Disabled Failed Domain Skipping
 
In SMTP Security Tab:
Disabled "Check Valid Sender"
Disabled "Auto-deny possible Hack 
Attempts"
 
Bill Green
dfn Systems
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Goran Jovanovic 
   
  Hi,
   
  I have noticed that I 
  am getting left over D*.SM$ files in the proc\work directory. I am getting 2 
  to 4 of these per day on a volume of 15-20K messages a day.
  
~~~

  Anyone have any ideas 
  about this?
   
  Thanks
   
  
  Goran 
  Jovanovic
  Omega Network 
  Solutions


[Declude.JunkMail] E-mail size filter

2006-02-15 Thread Kelly Scotto
Title: E-mail size filter






Can someone show an example or two on how to filter out e-mail over 12mb. My users Imail mailboxes will except mail over 10mb even though the limit is set at 10mb thus causing a blockage when the try to DL mail. This always results in a call to me. It seems to be the same people over and over, no matter what I tell them it goes in one ear and out the other. I need to put an end to this, any ideas will be appreciated.

Kelly





Re: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Scott Fisher



all_list.dat should be in your declude folder. Mine 
is dated 10/29/2005.
 
If you have JunkMail pro, you can write the 
filters.
 
REMOTEIP 5 CONTAINS . is 
a trick that I learned from Matt that essentially is always true. The sender's 
ip address (REMOTEIP) should always have a period in it.
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Susan 
  Duncan 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:50 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adding 
  weight based on x-country-chain
  
  
  I was looking for 
  this in the documentation and didn’t find it in the Junkmail 
  documentation
  http://www.declude.com/Version/Manuals/JunkMail/JM_2.0.6.asp
   
  I don’t see anything 
  about country nor remoteip the way you are using it (it’s a variable as far as 
  I can see).  I didn’t see anything on the all_list.dat file either and I 
  did text searches on the manual file.
   
  I’m wondering if I am 
  just not looking in the right place.
   
  
  Susan Duncan Web/Communications 
  Officer / Agent des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / 
  Syndicat des employées de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 
  613-234-7290e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Scott 
  FisherSent: February 15, 
  2006 10:15 AMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] adding 
  weight based on x-country-chain
   
  
  The COUNTRY filter is used for searching the 
  last country in the country chain. The COUNTRY filter requires the 
  all_list.dat file. See the end of the document for a link to this 
  file.
  COUNTRY was introduced in the 
  1.62.
   
  The COUNTRIES filter is used for searching 
  all countries in the country chain. The COUNTRIES filter requires the 
  all_list.dat file. See the end of the document for a link COUNTRIES was 
  introduced in the 1.62 version.
   
  You could use a filter 
  of:
  COUNTRY END IS 
US
  COUNTRY END IS 
CA
  REMOTEIP 5 CONTAINS 
  .
   
   
   
   
   
  

- Original Message - 


From: Susan Duncan 


To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 


Sent: 
Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 AM

Subject: 
[Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on 
x-country-chain

 
Is there a way to add a weight 
based on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the 
chances of mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly 
remote, so a weight on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance 
of being spam.
 
I couldn’t find anything in the 
docs on it.
 
Susan Duncan Web/Communications 
Officer / Agent des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / 
Syndicat des employées de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 
613-234-7290e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
 


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Scott Fisher



I do score this way. One of the reasons is I can 
track whwere the spam is coming from with the log results.
I'll score 30 points on a hold of 200. Not too 
high.
 
I'll then run those that didn't fail the 
Filter-country through Matt's MP_Foreign Test ending those that triggered the 
initial country filter.
Matt's MP Foreign filter looks at the 
headers/mailfrom/helo/revdns for country codes.
 
There is definite false positives but 30 points is 
15% of the hold weight, pretty reasonable. With the internationalization of 
companies, you never know where a company's email server lives.
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  John 
  Carter 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:46 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adding 
  weight based on x-country-chain
  
  Of course, all of this is "your mileage will vary", but 
  
  Scott's filter might be simpler (therefore better), but I 
  have a country filter (which I got from Scott) which allows me to set the 
  score by the country. 
   
  The 
  Global.cfg is
  FILTER-COUNTRY filter  d:\Decludefilters\filter-country.txt x 0 0
  (zero scoring because it comes from the filter)
   
  $default$.junkmail is
  FILTER-COUNTRY  WARN
   
  The 
  filter-country.txt file is (snip)
  COUNTRIES    3    
  CONTAINS    ADCOUNTRIES    
  3    CONTAINS    
  AECOUNTRIES    3    
  CONTAINS    AFCOUNTRIES    
  3    CONTAINS    
  AGCOUNTRIES    3    
  CONTAINS    AICOUNTRIES    
  3    CONTAINS    
  ALCOUNTRIES    3    
  CONTAINS    AMCOUNTRIES    
  3    CONTAINS    
  ANCOUNTRIES    3    
  CONTAINS    AOCOUNTRIES    
  3    CONTAINS    AQ
  etc.
   
  For 
  me, I removed the US and set CA & UK to one (of course based on the nature 
  of our clientele.) Others are at 3, but I can adjust each if I have 
  particular problems.
   
  John 
  C
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
  DuncanSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 AMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] adding 
  weight based on x-country-chain
  
  
  Is there a way to add a weight 
  based on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the chances 
  of mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly remote, so 
  a weight on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance of being 
  spam.
   
  I couldn’t find anything in the 
  docs on it.
   
  Susan Duncan Web/Communications Officer / Agent 
  des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées 
  de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 613-234-7290e-mail: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
   


AW: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Guhl, Markus \(LDS\)



hi,
 
it was a "experimental" test (from the time scott was in 
charge). but it still works (up to 3.0.5.24bb). there is no 
documentation of this in the manuals but you can search in the archive (http://www.mail-archive.com/declude.junkmail@declude.com/).
 
best regards from germany

mfgi.a.gez. markus 
guhl***lds nrwref. 
241tel.: 0211 9449 6947fax.: 0211 9449 8344mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*** 

  
  
  Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Susan 
  DuncanGesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2006 16:50An: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comBetreff: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adding 
  weight based on x-country-chain
  
  
  I was looking for 
  this in the documentation and didn’t find it in the Junkmail 
  documentation
  http://www.declude.com/Version/Manuals/JunkMail/JM_2.0.6.asp
   
  I don’t see anything 
  about country nor remoteip the way you are using it (it’s a variable as far as 
  I can see).  I didn’t see anything on the all_list.dat file either and I 
  did text searches on the manual file.
   
  I’m wondering if I am 
  just not looking in the right place.
   
  
  Susan Duncan Web/Communications 
  Officer / Agent des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / 
  Syndicat des employées de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 
  613-234-7290e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Scott 
  FisherSent: February 15, 
  2006 10:15 AMTo: 
  Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] adding 
  weight based on x-country-chain
   
  
  The COUNTRY filter is used for searching the 
  last country in the country chain. The COUNTRY filter requires the 
  all_list.dat file. See the end of the document for a link to this 
  file.
  COUNTRY was introduced in the 
  1.62.
   
  The COUNTRIES filter is used for searching 
  all countries in the country chain. The COUNTRIES filter requires the 
  all_list.dat file. See the end of the document for a link COUNTRIES was 
  introduced in the 1.62 version.
   
  You could use a filter 
  of:
  COUNTRY END IS 
US
  COUNTRY END IS 
CA
  REMOTEIP 5 CONTAINS 
  .
   
   
   
   
   
  

- Original Message - 


From: Susan Duncan 


To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 


Sent: 
Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 AM

Subject: 
[Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on 
x-country-chain

 
Is there a way to add a weight 
based on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the 
chances of mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly 
remote, so a weight on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance 
of being spam.
 
I couldn’t find anything in the 
docs on it.
 
Susan Duncan Web/Communications 
Officer / Agent des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / 
Syndicat des employées de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 
613-234-7290e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
 


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Susan Duncan









I was looking for this in the
documentation and didn’t find it in the Junkmail documentation

http://www.declude.com/Version/Manuals/JunkMail/JM_2.0.6.asp

 

I don’t see anything about country
nor remoteip the way you are using it (it’s a variable as far as I can
see).  I didn’t see anything on the all_list.dat file either and I did
text searches on the manual file.

 

I’m wondering if I am just not
looking in the right place.

 



Susan Duncan 
Web/Communications Officer / Agent des Communications/web
Union of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées de l'Impôt
Tel: 613-235-6704 ext 240
Fax: 613-234-7290
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ute-sei.org/



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
Sent: February 15, 2006 10:15 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
adding weight based on x-country-chain

 



The
COUNTRY filter is used for searching the last country in the country
chain. The COUNTRY filter requires the all_list.dat file. See the end of the
document for a link to this file.

COUNTRY was introduced in the 1.62.

 

The
COUNTRIES filter is used for searching all countries in the country
chain. The COUNTRIES filter requires the all_list.dat file. See the end of the
document for a link COUNTRIES was introduced in the 1.62 version.

 

You could use a filter of:

COUNTRY END IS US

COUNTRY END IS CA

REMOTEIP 5 CONTAINS .

 

 

 

 

 







- Original Message - 





From: Susan Duncan 





To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com






Sent: Wednesday,
February 15, 2006 8:48 AM





Subject:
[Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain





 



Is there a way to add a weight based
on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the chances of
mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly remote, so a weight
on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance of being spam.

 

I couldn’t find anything in
the docs on it.

 

Susan Duncan 
Web/Communications Officer / Agent des Communications/web
Union of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées de l'Impôt
Tel: 613-235-6704 ext 240
Fax: 613-234-7290
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ute-sei.org/

 










RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread John Carter



Of course, all of this is "your mileage will vary", but 

Scott's filter might be simpler (therefore better), but I 
have a country filter (which I got from Scott) which allows me to set the score 
by the country. 
 
The 
Global.cfg is
FILTER-COUNTRY filter  d:\Decludefilters\filter-country.txt x 0 0
(zero 
scoring because it comes from the filter)
 
$default$.junkmail is
FILTER-COUNTRY  WARN
 
The 
filter-country.txt file is (snip)
COUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    ADCOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    AECOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    AFCOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    AGCOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    AICOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    ALCOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    AMCOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    ANCOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    AOCOUNTRIES    3    
CONTAINS    AQ
etc.
 
For 
me, I removed the US and set CA & UK to one (of course based on the nature 
of our clientele.) Others are at 3, but I can adjust each if I have 
particular problems.
 
John 
C



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
DuncanSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 AMTo: 
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight 
based on x-country-chain


Is there a way to add a weight based 
on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the chances of mail 
coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly remote, so a weight 
on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance of being 
spam.
 
I couldn’t find anything in the docs 
on it.
 
Susan Duncan Web/Communications Officer / Agent des 
Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées de 
l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 613-234-7290e-mail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
 


RE: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Markus Gufler



 
Personaly I wouldn't block or assign weights for 
certain countries. (keep in mind that COUNTRY and COUNTRIES are not the 
same)
But I've seen excellent results by assigning a relative 
low wheigt for all IP-blacklists and add additional wheight only if the message 
is not origininating from "trustworthily" countries.
 

COUNTRY END 
STARTSWITH itCOUNTRY END 
STARTSWITH ...
 
TESTSFAILED 20 CONTAINS CBLTESTSFAILED 10 CONTAINS 
DSBLTESTSFAILED 25 CONTAINS ORDBTESTSFAILED 30 CONTAINS 
SPAMCOPTESTSFAILED 30 CONTAINS ...

 
Markus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
From: 
Susan 
Duncan 
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 

Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 
AM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] adding 
weight based on x-country-chain


Is there a way to add a weight 
based on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the 
chances of mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly 
remote, so a weight on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance 
of being spam.
 
I couldn’t find anything in the 
docs on it.
 
Susan Duncan Web/Communications Officer / Agent 
des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des 
employées de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 
613-234-7290e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
 


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Scott Fisher



Darn enter key. didn' get to finish my 
email.
 
Here are the special coutnry codes:
##  Special Codes## *1 
Multi-Regional# *2 Europe# *3 North America# *4 Central/South 
America# *5 Pacific Rim# *A ARIN Unlisted (North America/South 
Africa)# *B Public Data Network# *E RIPE Unlisted (Europe, North Africa, 
Middle East)# *I Private IP# *L Loopback# *M Multicast# *P APNIC 
Unlisted (Asia Pacific)# *R IANA Reserved# *U Unknown
So this filter might work better:
COUNTRY END IS USCOUNTRY END IS CA
COUNTRY END IS *3
COUNTRY END IS *A
REMOTEIP 5 CONTAINS .
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Susan 
  Duncan 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 
  AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight 
  based on x-country-chain
  
  
  Is there a way to add a weight 
  based on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the chances 
  of mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly remote, so 
  a weight on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance of being 
  spam.
   
  I couldn’t find anything in the 
  docs on it.
   
  Susan Duncan Web/Communications Officer / Agent 
  des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées 
  de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 613-234-7290e-mail: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
   


Re: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Scott Fisher




The COUNTRY filter is used for searching 
the last country in the country chain. The COUNTRY filter requires the 
all_list.dat file. See the end of the document for a link to this 
file.
COUNTRY 
was introduced in the 1.62.
 
The COUNTRIES filter is used for searching 
all countries in the country chain. The COUNTRIES filter requires the 
all_list.dat file. See the end of the document for a link COUNTRIES was 
introduced in the 1.62 version.
 
You 
could use a filter of:
COUNTRY 
END IS US
COUNTRY 
END IS CA
REMOTEIP 
5 CONTAINS .
 
 
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Susan 
  Duncan 
  To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 
  AM
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] adding weight 
  based on x-country-chain
  
  
  Is there a way to add a weight 
  based on the country?  I do not want to block on country, but the chances 
  of mail coming from somewhere other than Canada or the US is fairly remote, so 
  a weight on country + anything would mean it’s got a high chance of being 
  spam.
   
  I couldn’t find anything in the 
  docs on it.
   
  Susan Duncan Web/Communications Officer / Agent 
  des Communications/webUnion of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées 
  de l'ImpôtTel: 613-235-6704 ext 240Fax: 613-234-7290e-mail: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.ute-sei.org/
   


[Declude.JunkMail] adding weight based on x-country-chain

2006-02-15 Thread Susan Duncan








Is there a way to add a weight based on the country?  I do
not want to block on country, but the chances of mail coming from somewhere
other than Canada or the US is fairly remote, so a weight on country + anything
would mean it’s got a high chance of being spam.

 

I couldn’t find anything in the docs on it.

 

Susan
Duncan 
Web/Communications Officer / Agent des Communications/web
Union of Taxation Employees / Syndicat des employées de l'Impôt
Tel: 613-235-6704 ext 240
Fax: 613-234-7290
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ute-sei.org/