[Declude.JunkMail] Per user config

2006-08-18 Thread Ing . Andrés E . Gallo
Hi there,
I wonder if someone faced with this situation, and the best way to solve it:

My manager wants to set up Junkmail by 'opt in'. I mean, If you want, you
pay for it, you got your own 'user.junkmail' config file added to the
apropiate domain subfolder under IMAIL\declude\ directory.

To make easier the user.junkmail configuration file, we agreed to use just 3
options:
Delete Junkmail, SPAM Subfolder, and Subject modification.

But with more than 4000 users, will be difficult to manage.

Is there any web solution to add into the webmail so each user can choose
with kind of protection he/she wants, and then, make a copy of the selected
'.junkmail' file ( Delete/Subfolder/Subject ) to it's own user folder? This
way should be 'user-administrable', no ISP-administrable.

And also, being the .junkmail file, in someway 'dinamic', with new rules,
filters, etc. Is there any kind of 'automatic replace' solution of the old
ones with the new ones? Maybe some script, batch or something that does the
replacement -adding filters, modifying weights, and so on- ?

Best regards

Andres-.




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam

2006-08-18 Thread Spaminator
I wouldn't operate under that assumption... there is plenty of email that's 
sent with a font size of 1.  The legal disclaimer on the bottom of my real 
account is a good example, as are numerous carefully-formatted emails from 
Amazon, etc.

Font Size=1 isn't *that* small.  ;-)



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From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date:  Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:47:47 -0700

... But a font size of 1 in an email is always spam.

Andrew 8)
 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
 Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:57 AM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
 Hi John,
 
 Since it's feasible that after the image tag there could be 
 text (such as an image caption), yes, it is entirely feasible 
 for the font tag to be preceding an img tag.
 
 E.g.,
 
   pfont...img ...the (in)famous 9 minutes/font/p 
 
 
 
 Best Regards
 Andy Schmidt
 
 Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
 Fax:+1 201 934-9206 
 
 
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 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
 Is this ever seen in a legit message where it sets the Font 
 size for an image?
 
 FONT  size=1img src=
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam

2006-08-18 Thread John T \(Lists\)
But back to the original question, setting a font size of 1 directly before
calling an image seems to lean more towards spam than legit.

As such, I have given it a weight of 5.

John T
eServices For You

Seek, and ye shall find!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Spaminator
 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:20 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
 I wouldn't operate under that assumption... there is plenty of email
that's sent with a
 font size of 1.  The legal disclaimer on the bottom of my real account
is a good
 example, as are numerous carefully-formatted emails from Amazon, etc.
 
 Font Size=1 isn't *that* small.  ;-)
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Date:  Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:47:47 -0700
 
 ... But a font size of 1 in an email is always spam.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of Andy Schmidt
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:57 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
  Hi John,
 
  Since it's feasible that after the image tag there could be
  text (such as an image caption), yes, it is entirely feasible
  for the font tag to be preceding an img tag.
 
  E.g.,
 
  pfont...img ...the (in)famous 9 minutes/font/p
 
 
 
  Best Regards
  Andy Schmidt
 
  Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
  Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of John T
  (Lists)
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 02:46 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
  Is this ever seen in a legit message where it sets the Font
  size for an image?
 
  FONT  size=1img src=
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
  Seek, and ye shall find!
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam

2006-08-18 Thread Andy Schmidt
The image could the LOGO of a tag line - that's why it's the first item in
that pargraph. I don't know if you gave it a 5 out of 10 - or a 5 out of 30,
etc?  I would give it a relative small percentage at first.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
(Lists)
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 05:39 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam

But back to the original question, setting a font size of 1 directly before
calling an image seems to lean more towards spam than legit.

As such, I have given it a weight of 5.

John T
eServices For You

Seek, and ye shall find!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Spaminator
 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:20 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
 I wouldn't operate under that assumption... there is plenty of email
that's sent with a
 font size of 1.  The legal disclaimer on the bottom of my real 
 account
is a good
 example, as are numerous carefully-formatted emails from Amazon, etc.
 
 Font Size=1 isn't *that* small.  ;-)
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Date:  Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:47:47 -0700
 
 ... But a font size of 1 in an email is always spam.
 
 Andrew 8)
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  Andy Schmidt
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:57 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
  Hi John,
 
  Since it's feasible that after the image tag there could be text 
  (such as an image caption), yes, it is entirely feasible for the 
  font tag to be preceding an img tag.
 
  E.g.,
 
  pfont...img ...the (in)famous 9 minutes/font/p
 
 
 
  Best Regards
  Andy Schmidt
 
  Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
  Fax:+1 201 934-9206
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
  John T
  (Lists)
  Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 02:46 AM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
  Is this ever seen in a legit message where it sets the Font size for 
  an image?
 
  FONT  size=1img src=
 
  John T
  eServices For You
 
  Seek, and ye shall find!
 
 
 
 
 
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[Declude.JunkMail] AutoWhitelist feature with Imail 2006

2006-08-18 Thread Bill Green dfn Systems
I'm currently running Imail 8.21 and declude 3.0.5.20. I've been watching 
for a certain set of features to be available in IMail 2006 with Declude 
before I upgrade.

Specifically, AutoWhitelist and the Mailbox Action.

My customers are used to checking their Spam folder online and adding any 
false positives to their Contacts list for whitelisting.


I remember reading on one of my email lists that the Declude Autowhitelist 
feature is broken when used with Imail 2006. Was this really the case? Has 
it been fixed in current release? Is anyone using it successfully?


Bill Green
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam

2006-08-18 Thread John T \(Lists\)
5 of 25 to hold

5 of 35 to delete.

John T
eServices For You

Seek, and ye shall find!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy
 Schmidt
 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:20 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
 The image could the LOGO of a tag line - that's why it's the first item in
 that pargraph. I don't know if you gave it a 5 out of 10 - or a 5 out of
30,
 etc?  I would give it a relative small percentage at first.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
 (Lists)
 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 05:39 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
 But back to the original question, setting a font size of 1 directly
before
 calling an image seems to lean more towards spam than legit.
 
 As such, I have given it a weight of 5.
 
 John T
 eServices For You
 
 Seek, and ye shall find!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Spaminator
  Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:20 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
 
  I wouldn't operate under that assumption... there is plenty of email
 that's sent with a
  font size of 1.  The legal disclaimer on the bottom of my real
  account
 is a good
  example, as are numerous carefully-formatted emails from Amazon, etc.
 
  Font Size=1 isn't *that* small.  ;-)
 
 
 
  -- Original Message --
  From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Date:  Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:47:47 -0700
 
  ... But a font size of 1 in an email is always spam.
 
  Andrew 8)
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   Andy Schmidt
   Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:57 AM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
  
   Hi John,
  
   Since it's feasible that after the image tag there could be text
   (such as an image caption), yes, it is entirely feasible for the
   font tag to be preceding an img tag.
  
   E.g.,
  
 pfont...img ...the (in)famous 9 minutes/font/p
  
  
  
   Best Regards
   Andy Schmidt
  
   Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
   Fax:+1 201 934-9206
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   John T
   (Lists)
   Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 02:46 AM
   To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
   Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HTML code in spam
  
   Is this ever seen in a legit message where it sets the Font size for
   an image?
  
   FONT  size=1img src=
  
   John T
   eServices For You
  
   Seek, and ye shall find!
  
  
  
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AutoWhitelist feature with Imail 2006

2006-08-18 Thread Tim Moore
Hi Bill,

Still waiting,

See the below from David 

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Barker
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:56 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Upcoming Declude Release

Hi Tim,

The AUTOWHITELIST for Imail 2006 is not on this release but we are working
on it and I hope to possibly get it in the next release.

David B
www.declude.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim
Moore
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:43 PM
To: declude.virus@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Upcoming Declude Release

Hi David,

Thanks for the update. 
Is the AUTOWHITELIST fixed in the new version, we need to upgrade to Imail
2006 before our Imail SA runs out. We did one of our small servers and it is
a pain to have to manually update aliases.txt file for our customers. The
next server has over 2000 customers that are using the AUTOWHITELIST. The
tech support would go through the roof if we had to update the aliases.txt
for that many customers.

Thanks Tim  
 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
Green dfn Systems
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:50 PM
To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AutoWhitelist feature with Imail 2006

I'm currently running Imail 8.21 and declude 3.0.5.20. I've been watching
for a certain set of features to be available in IMail 2006 with Declude
before I upgrade.
Specifically, AutoWhitelist and the Mailbox Action.

My customers are used to checking their Spam folder online and adding any
false positives to their Contacts list for whitelisting.

I remember reading on one of my email lists that the Declude Autowhitelist
feature is broken when used with Imail 2006. Was this really the case? Has
it been fixed in current release? Is anyone using it successfully?

Bill Green
dfn Systems 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] AutoWhitelist feature with Imail 2006

2006-08-18 Thread John T \(Lists\)
The Declude feature is not broken, Ipswitch changed the way contacts are in
Imail 2006 in that they are now in a central access DB instead of in
individual files.

I believe Declude is looking into how they can adapt the feature to the new
Imail format.

John T
eServices For You

Seek, and ye shall find!


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill
Green
 dfn Systems
 Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:50 PM
 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
 Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] AutoWhitelist feature with Imail 2006
 
 I'm currently running Imail 8.21 and declude 3.0.5.20. I've been watching
 for a certain set of features to be available in IMail 2006 with Declude
 before I upgrade.
 Specifically, AutoWhitelist and the Mailbox Action.
 
 My customers are used to checking their Spam folder online and adding any
 false positives to their Contacts list for whitelisting.
 
 I remember reading on one of my email lists that the Declude Autowhitelist
 feature is broken when used with Imail 2006. Was this really the case? Has
 it been fixed in current release? Is anyone using it successfully?
 
 Bill Green
 dfn Systems
 
 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AutoWhitelist feature with Imail 2006

2006-08-18 Thread Spaminator
On 8/9 I received the following response from Declude in regards to the 
AutoWhiteList feature with iMail 2006:

No.  Declude version 4.3.7 is not compatible with this.  We are currently 
working on a fix.  Thanks.


-- Original Message --
From: Bill Green dfn Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
Date:  Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:49:34 -0600

I'm currently running Imail 8.21 and declude 3.0.5.20. I've been watching 
for a certain set of features to be available in IMail 2006 with Declude 
before I upgrade.
Specifically, AutoWhitelist and the Mailbox Action.

My customers are used to checking their Spam folder online and adding any 
false positives to their Contacts list for whitelisting.

I remember reading on one of my email lists that the Declude Autowhitelist 
feature is broken when used with Imail 2006. Was this really the case? Has 
it been fixed in current release? Is anyone using it successfully?

Bill Green
dfn Systems 


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