RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Degenhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer. We are not using Commtouch. For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by adding Commtouch? Our management is very happy with the current set up, esp. compared to what we used to have. However, I do spend a few hours per week tweaking settings to achieve that. Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on it's own won't get you want you want/need. As I mentioned, we are not running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and another when I added Sniffer. Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Uwe Degenhardt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
I'm going to third (or fourth) everyone's comments related to Declude, the company, their people (David Barker in particular) and the product. We're running Imail v8.22 (tried 2006 but failed miserably), Declude with invURIBL and Commtouch. We tried Sniffer but it added so much overhead to the system that we had to remove it. Commtouch really was the biggest improvement for us when we added it to the Declude/invURIBL configuration we were running previously. So, our experience was Commtouch was much less of an impact on our server than Sniffer. We have about 3500 mailboxes with 350+ domains and our spam is down to probably 2-3% sneaking through and it's usually the ones that are new and only come in once until their signature is broken and gets included in the various test sources. It's going to be a constant battle where the vendors are always behind the spammers but it seems like the vendors are closing the gap between introduction of new spamming techniques and how fast they get the solutions into the field. Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer. We are not using Commtouch. For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by adding Commtouch? Our management is very happy with the current set up, esp. compared to what we used to have. However, I do spend a few hours per week tweaking settings to achieve that. Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on it's own won't get you want you want/need. As I mentioned, we are not running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and another when I added Sniffer. Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the SPAMMERs will get cleverer everyday. What do you guys think ? Are you frustrated as well ? Uwe --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan?
Check your tests in the global for negative weights which bring the value down, the negative weights are defined in the last column of your tests. Most common are IPNOTINMX or NOLEGITCONTENT or FROMNOMATCH which are hidden from the headers. The last column either adds or subtracts weight if the test is NOT triggered eg. NOLEGITCONTENT NOLEGITCONTENT x x 0 -5 David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ing. Andrés E. Gallo Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:36 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan? Hello everyone, I observed that one of my filters, 'Asunto' hit a '6' but, in the total score, it's not added to it, so WEIGHT14 in my case, it's not triggered. What could be wrong? -snip X-Declude-Note: E-mail scaneado con Declude JunkMail por SPAM - Scanned by Declude 4.3.46 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Puntuacion: [12] a las 12:12:02 el 19 Jul 2007 X-Declude-Tests: ZEN [7], ROUTING [2], SUBCHARS-50 [1], FILTER-COUNTRY [2], ASUNTO [6] X-Country-Chain: [Multicast]-FRANCE-ARGENTINA-destination X-Declude-Code: 210f - Regards Andres.- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan?
Hi David, I have: From global.cfg: --- HIDETESTSCATCHALLMAILS NOLEGITCONTENT IPNOTINMX CATCHALLMAILS CATCHALLMAILS X X 0 0 NOLEGITCONTENT NOLEGITCONTENT x x 0 -5 IPNOTINMX IPNOTINMX x x 0 -3 . . This is almost at the end, but shouldn't be hidden: FROMNOMATCH FROMNOMATCH x x 2 -1 And for my test: ASUNTO filter D:\IMail\Declude\Filtros\FiltroAsunto.txt x 3 0 Within the filter: SUBJECT 3 CONTAINSYou've received a And the '6' it's exactly the score missed in the addition: ASUNTO. ( 3 + 3 ). If hidden, like NOLEGITCONTENT, should subtract '5', not '6'. Should I stop/start declude after modifying the filters ? TIA Andres. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de David Barker Enviado el: Jueves, 19 de Julio de 2007 12:41 Para: declude.junkmail@declude.com Asunto: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan? Check your tests in the global for negative weights which bring the value down, the negative weights are defined in the last column of your tests. Most common are IPNOTINMX or NOLEGITCONTENT or FROMNOMATCH which are hidden from the headers. The last column either adds or subtracts weight if the test is NOT triggered eg. NOLEGITCONTENTNOLEGITCONTENT x x 0 -5 David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ing. Andrés E. Gallo Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:36 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan? Hello everyone, I observed that one of my filters, 'Asunto' hit a '6' but, in the total score, it's not added to it, so WEIGHT14 in my case, it's not triggered. What could be wrong? -snip X-Declude-Note: E-mail scaneado con Declude JunkMail por SPAM - Scanned by Declude 4.3.46 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Puntuacion: [12] a las 12:12:02 el 19 Jul 2007 X-Declude-Tests: ZEN [7], ROUTING [2], SUBCHARS-50 [1], FILTER-COUNTRY [2], ASUNTO [6] X-Country-Chain: [Multicast]-FRANCE-ARGENTINA-destination X-Declude-Code: 210f - Regards Andres.- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan?
NOLEGITCONTENT NOLEGITCONTENT x x 0 -5 FROMNOMATCH FROMNOMATCH x x 2 -1 This is what constituted the -6 No need to restart decludeproc after modifying filters or global. The only file that needs a restart is declude.cfg David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ing. Andrés E. Gallo Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:04 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan? Hi David, I have: From global.cfg: --- HIDETESTSCATCHALLMAILS NOLEGITCONTENT IPNOTINMX CATCHALLMAILS CATCHALLMAILS X X 0 0 NOLEGITCONTENT NOLEGITCONTENT x x 0 -5 IPNOTINMX IPNOTINMX x x 0 -3 . . This is almost at the end, but shouldn't be hidden: FROMNOMATCH FROMNOMATCH x x 2 -1 And for my test: ASUNTO filter D:\IMail\Declude\Filtros\FiltroAsunto.txt x 3 0 Within the filter: SUBJECT 3 CONTAINSYou've received a And the '6' it's exactly the score missed in the addition: ASUNTO. ( 3 + 3 ). If hidden, like NOLEGITCONTENT, should subtract '5', not '6'. Should I stop/start declude after modifying the filters ? TIA Andres. -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de David Barker Enviado el: Jueves, 19 de Julio de 2007 12:41 Para: declude.junkmail@declude.com Asunto: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan? Check your tests in the global for negative weights which bring the value down, the negative weights are defined in the last column of your tests. Most common are IPNOTINMX or NOLEGITCONTENT or FROMNOMATCH which are hidden from the headers. The last column either adds or subtracts weight if the test is NOT triggered eg. NOLEGITCONTENTNOLEGITCONTENT x x 0 -5 David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ing. Andrés E. Gallo Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:36 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] why not adding to X-Declude-Scan? Hello everyone, I observed that one of my filters, 'Asunto' hit a '6' but, in the total score, it's not added to it, so WEIGHT14 in my case, it's not triggered. What could be wrong? -snip X-Declude-Note: E-mail scaneado con Declude JunkMail por SPAM - Scanned by Declude 4.3.46 http://www.declude.com/x-note.htm; X-Declude-Scan: Puntuacion: [12] a las 12:12:02 el 19 Jul 2007 X-Declude-Tests: ZEN [7], ROUTING [2], SUBCHARS-50 [1], FILTER-COUNTRY [2], ASUNTO [6] X-Country-Chain: [Multicast]-FRANCE-ARGENTINA-destination X-Declude-Code: 210f - Regards Andres.- --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Smartermail tutorials
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration
Anyone using a spam gateway in front of declude like alligate, Imgate, or Xwall? We want something that does greylisting and tarpitting. Chuck Schick Warp 8, Inc. (303)-421-5140 www.warp8.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Gnabasik Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:15 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration I'm going to third (or fourth) everyone's comments related to Declude, the company, their people (David Barker in particular) and the product. We're running Imail v8.22 (tried 2006 but failed miserably), Declude with invURIBL and Commtouch. We tried Sniffer but it added so much overhead to the system that we had to remove it. Commtouch really was the biggest improvement for us when we added it to the Declude/invURIBL configuration we were running previously. So, our experience was Commtouch was much less of an impact on our server than Sniffer. We have about 3500 mailboxes with 350+ domains and our spam is down to probably 2-3% sneaking through and it's usually the ones that are new and only come in once until their signature is broken and gets included in the various test sources. It's going to be a constant battle where the vendors are always behind the spammers but it seems like the vendors are closing the gap between introduction of new spamming techniques and how fast they get the solutions into the field. Glenn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Richards Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:47 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are running Declude, invURIBL, and Sniffer. We are not using Commtouch. For those of you running the first three, how much impact did you see by adding Commtouch? Our management is very happy with the current set up, esp. compared to what we used to have. However, I do spend a few hours per week tweaking settings to achieve that. Uwe, I second (or third) the others that Declude (a fantastic product) on it's own won't get you want you want/need. As I mentioned, we are not running Commtouch, but I noticed an improvement when I added invURIBL, and another when I added Sniffer. Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:31 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We are on SmarterMail 3.x and run invURIBL and Commtouch ZEROHOUR. We do not run sniffer. We get very few smaps to the user boxes. Most users get none and the heavier email user get 1-3 a day. We delete about 85% of incoming spam the other 14% get held for review and less than one half of one percent gets through to mailboxes. Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Uwe Degenhardt Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:46 PM To: Craig Edmonds (123marbella.com) Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi Craig and everybody who answered my contribution. It was more a sign of my deep desperation I sometimes feel. But I get new hope now. Obviously with Declude alone (We run Smartermail 3.x) we can't catch them all. I will try Sniffer, invURIBL and Commtouch. I hope they all run with SM. Thanks everybody. Uwe Same Here. Subscribe to the following plugins in addition to Declude...(unfortunately on its own its not enough unless you sit tweaking it all day everyday) Sniffer from Armresearch invURIBL from invariant systems ZEROHOUR from Commtouch With that combo you cant go wrong. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox Sent: 18 July 2007 23:57 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration We're running pretty well... catching somewhere between 99.7% and 99.9% of incoming spam. Declude 2.0.6 (waiting on Imail 2006 to stabilize before upgrading to the latest version) on IMail 8.22, along with Sniffer and invURIBL. Darin. - Original Message - From: Uwe Degenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] frustration Hi everybody on the list, please excuse me, but I would like to share my frustration with you. I am poured with SPAM the last two-to-three weeks. It gets worse every day. Am I the only one who is seeing this ? I am in a good contact with David of Declude. He is doing a fantastic job, but sometimes I loose my faith and my trust, that we can win the SPAM-fight. It appeals to me, as it is like the old principle: If you put water on the fire at one place, you have to run to the next place to delete it there too. And the
