RE: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics
The recurring theme I'm seeing in this thread is a concern of being implicated in the misuse of the Declude (or similar) tools to punish someone wrongly. That's a valid concern. What's being left unsaid is a concern of previously established tools (such as high speed internet access and Email) being misused and causing personal harm. The focus is on how the new tool is being used, not how the old tool has been corrupted. I see being part of an anti-pornography effort at work being very similar to removing liquor from your house if you have a guest who's a recovering alcoholic. If you approach your task from the vantage of helping someone AVOID a problem, you are taking the right action. I believe the fact that some employers may misuse information to mistreat employees is countered by the fact that some employees abuse the trust employers place in them. Your goal should be to be discerning on who you choose to associate with so that you are not worrying about whether a tool created for good is turned to evil. Hope this helps, -Bill Naber -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Patnode Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] A Question of Ethics I realize this is two questions in one day, but its a slow list day, so: Rather than deleting spam, I forward it tagged or to a shared mailbox, clients choice. I just found out that within a week of starting my my anti spam service (delivery choice 2), a company fired an employee for receiving tons of porn via email. They also have web monitoring in place so this was the last piece to their puzzle, but... How does everyone feel about our role playing Big Brother against employees? Dan --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Selective clean up of mail folders
To keep me out of the spam review loop, I'm using the mailbox function to move spam to a mailbox called Junk for each user. If the users feel the need to review/retrieve messages, they can access them via the web interface. My question, is there a clean-up utility along the lines of immsgexp.exe that can be directed to only work on selected mailboxes? I'd like to clean out any junk more than two or three weeks old, but can't clean out the main or other mailboxes since I have some users that only use the web interface and don't have any place to archive messages offline. Thanks, -Bill Naber Kitchin Hospitality, LLC --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective clean up of mail folders
My bad - I found it from two weeks ago. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 4:06 PM To: Bill Naber Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Selective clean up of mail folders My question, is there a clean-up utility along the lines of immsgexp.exe that can be directed to only work on selected mailboxes? Search archives first...just posted last week. -Sandy --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question
Thanks - I appreciate you having that on the list. -Bill Naber -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question When setting up an external test, I understand you can check for either a nonzero return code or a specific return code (e.g., Sniffer's return code of 62 for scumware). I have been experimenting with NoXMail which returns a range of values, depending on the degree to which the message matches Adult/Spam characteristics. Is there a way to specify a return code range or cutoff in the external definition such as 50? Not yet, but that is something that we are working on. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] An optional web interface for Declude JunkMail?
Could we take a lower tech route and use the program alias capabilities? Make changing your spam settings similar to subscribing/unsubscribing from a mailing list. I picture something along the lines of sending a change request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I get back a form where I can change the settings and reply. It's not nearly as slick as a web interface, but it would work for everyone (except maybe Imail gateway users) and not require adding any web server apps to the mail server. -Bill Naber Kitchin Hospitality, LLC --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS Question
I've just recently put junkmail into a test phase on my server and have noticed that I am getting almost no hits on the HELOBOGUS test - specifically one hit over a three day/10,000 message period. From what I've been reading on this forum, I'd expect more than that and was wondering what might be inhibiting the HELOBOGUS test. Thanks, -Bill Naber --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Spam test: nit-picking comment
I like the spam test tool - I've gotten good use out of its virus cousin. Next time you're working on the spam test page, you'll want to change the label that reads Choose the eicar file to send: to Choose the spam file to send. I wouldn't bother most folks with such a minor detail, but you run a tight ship and I figured you would want to fix it. -Bill --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
