RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question
Getting to me...look here, you say you been thinking again! Sounds like a retread coming off to me... Jim Rooth Klotron, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 01:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question Thanks Scott, I meant to say SPAMHEADERS in lieu of BADHEADERS...to ya'll I was RFC ignorant...you had to figure the rest of the ignorance out on your own...LOL Me thinks you have been spending too much time around a truck stop again Jim. The diesel fumes are getting to you again. :-) John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question
Hello All, So far I've been very happy with JunkMail. I'm only running a few tests and it's catching a lot of spam and porn. However, I'm noticing the occasional legitimate email from badly formatted clients. For example, JunkMail caught a confirmation email from an online service that one of my co-workers signed up for. This was a good email but it had badly formatted headers. Fortunately, I'm not rejecting or deleting emails as of yet but eventually I will. How do you all deal with emails that fail the BADHEADERS test because of poor mail clients/senders but are legit emails that need to be delivered? I'm looking for my next step in configuring JunkMail. Any advice is appreciated. Troy D. Hilton SofWerks LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question
I do it by a weight system. Thee are a few of the tests that really have less value in catching legitimate spam. For instance if you give a heavy weight to noabuse, you will not receive any mail from Microsoft as they do not want the emails telling them they are screwing up so therefore they do not have an 'abuse' account. BADHEADERS, in my opinion, should have a lower value. Many servers out there are legitimate but have RFC ignorant people running them. I know, cause I am one ignorant son of a gun when it comes to RFC! Jim Rooth Klotron, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Troy Hilton Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 15:53 To: Declude Junkmail Forum (E-mail) Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question Hello All, So far I've been very happy with JunkMail. I'm only running a few tests and it's catching a lot of spam and porn. However, I'm noticing the occasional legitimate email from badly formatted clients. For example, JunkMail caught a confirmation email from an online service that one of my co-workers signed up for. This was a good email but it had badly formatted headers. Fortunately, I'm not rejecting or deleting emails as of yet but eventually I will. How do you all deal with emails that fail the BADHEADERS test because of poor mail clients/senders but are legit emails that need to be delivered? I'm looking for my next step in configuring JunkMail. Any advice is appreciated. Troy D. Hilton SofWerks LLC. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question
So far I've been very happy with JunkMail. I'm only running a few tests and it's catching a lot of spam and porn. However, I'm noticing the occasional legitimate email from badly formatted clients. For example, JunkMail caught a confirmation email from an online service that one of my co-workers signed up for. This was a good email but it had badly formatted headers. Fortunately, I'm not rejecting or deleting emails as of yet but eventually I will. How do you all deal with emails that fail the BADHEADERS test because of poor mail clients/senders but are legit emails that need to be delivered? I'm looking for my next step in configuring JunkMail. Any advice is appreciated. I think that Jim's suggestion of relying on the weighting system is the best answer. My personal opinion, though, is that the BADHEADERS test should have a high weight towards the weighting system, as no mail client should be sending out E-mail with non-RFC-compliant headers -- that's very bad. Given how much spam has increased lately, I think we're getting to the point where broken E-mail headers can't be ignored any longer. Note that the problem doesn't lie with the overworked mail server administrator on the other side -- it lies in the company that designed the mail client, that they are collecting money from. The SPAMHEADERS test (headers that are technically RFC-compliant , but spamlike) will catch E-mail from quite a few poorly designed web sites, and *should* be fixed, but since the headers are RFC-compliant, a lower weight should be used with the SPAMHEADERS test. Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BADHEADERS Test question
Thanks Scott, I meant to say SPAMHEADERS in lieu of BADHEADERS...to ya'll I was RFC ignorant...you had to figure the rest of the ignorance out on your own...LOL Me thinks you have been spending too much time around a truck stop again Jim. The diesel fumes are getting to you again. :-) John Tolmachoff IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
