Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation
Are you importing from an IMail installation? My experience with that was very good, except they forgot to do the domain aliases. I didn't try autoresponders, but that should be minimal. It brought over all the mail as well. Most of the time I spent on the project was in configruing add-ons like Declude, Sniffer, inv-uribl, etc., not the main product. Installation of the product itself is pretty straightforward. I read the forum posts and decided that, even though I didn't like the paths they chose, I should accept the defaults. It seems that most of the people who were having really odd problems were using different paths. Having said that, all the path-problem type posts I saw were with V2 and the current V3 should be a lot better. As an example, the product installs in c:\program files\smartertools\smartermail where I would much rather have it in c:\smartermail to make it easier to get to. One word of caution: there appear to be oddball problems with the alternate skins, which are really just color schemes. Conventional wisdom on the forums seems to be just use the default skin... -Dave Doherty Skywaves, Inc. - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation We've been asked to estimate/quote an installation of SmarterMail, which we've not actually installed before. There are 4 domains with fixed IP addresses, 64 POP boxes WebMail and 5 two-three sentence auto-responders. For those of you who have been through it before, could you give me an idea of how much time you feel is reasonable, not including our own RTFM and learning curve time. Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation
Here my two cents: 15 Min: Agree and make sure on where to install (d or c), where the domains info and emails are going to held at (d: c:, network), where the spool and logs are going to be held etc 15 Min (optional): coordinating everything in your mind and on paper to make sure all steps are clear before starting setup 5 Minutes: Run setup (smartermail) 5-10 Minutes: Setup IIS to run smartermail webmail, check if it works, etc, and activate license 30 - 60 Minutes: to make tests using MX of a real domain and make sure everything is working -inbound and outbound- 30 to 120 minutes aprox: installing external components if needed. 30 Minutes: migrating or adding the domains. If it is a migration with migrating tools provided by smartertools that should be an easy task. 30 to 90 minutes (optional): adding by hand 64 POP mail boxes if you are not using a migration tool and setting up Autoresponders. Another 30 to 60 minutes double checking everything in the production environment and making adjustments if needed. Total Minimum 2 hours and 30 minutes, probably less. Maximum (reasonable) 6 hours Plus the time RTFM and learning curve regards Luis Arango -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Brown Sent: Jueves, 23 de Marzo de 2006 12:42 p.m. To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation We've been asked to estimate/quote an installation of SmarterMail, which we've not actually installed before. There are 4 domains with fixed IP addresses, 64 POP boxes WebMail and 5 two-three sentence auto-responders. For those of you who have been through it before, could you give me an idea of how much time you feel is reasonable, not including our own RTFM and learning curve time. Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. __ [Email scanned for viruses] [Email escaneado contra virus] __ [Email scanned for viruses] [Email escaneado contra virus] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation
No import. Brand New box. They are migrating from a Open Source Mail Solution to Windows 2003/SmarterMail. I'm assuming we'll have to enter every user by hand. I'm trying to get a feel for how much time I should reasonably quote. When I say reasonable, I mean that I don't want to bill the client for our learning curve and RTFM time. Thursday, March 23, 2006, 12:13:12 PM, Dave Doherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DD Are you importing from an IMail installation? My experience with that was DD very good, except they forgot to do the domain aliases. I didn't try DD autoresponders, but that should be minimal. It brought over all the mail as DD well. DD Most of the time I spent on the project was in configruing add-ons like DD Declude, Sniffer, inv-uribl, etc., not the main product. DD Installation of the product itself is pretty straightforward. I read the DD forum posts and decided that, even though I didn't like the paths they DD chose, I should accept the defaults. It seems that most of the people who DD were having really odd problems were using different paths. Having said DD that, all the path-problem type posts I saw were with V2 and the current V3 DD should be a lot better. DD As an example, the product installs in c:\program DD files\smartertools\smartermail where I would much rather have it in DD c:\smartermail to make it easier to get to. DD One word of caution: there appear to be oddball problems with the alternate DD skins, which are really just color schemes. Conventional wisdom on the DD forums seems to be just use the default skin... DD -Dave Doherty DD Skywaves, Inc. DD - Original Message - DD From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] DD To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com DD Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:42 PM DD Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation We've been asked to estimate/quote an installation of SmarterMail, which we've not actually installed before. There are 4 domains with fixed IP addresses, 64 POP boxes WebMail and 5 two-three sentence auto-responders. For those of you who have been through it before, could you give me an idea of how much time you feel is reasonable, not including our own RTFM and learning curve time. Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. DD --- DD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To DD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and DD type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found DD at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation
We are currently working on a SmarterMail version of iPlus Info Browser and have been researching the SmarterMail webservices rather extensively. We should be able to write you a tool to do bulk imports of users into SmarterMail. If you are interested, please contact me off list.Thanks,Evans Martin From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:08 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation No import. Brand New box. They are migrating from a Open Source MailSolution to Windows 2003/SmarterMail. I'm assuming we'll have to enterevery user by hand.I'm trying to get a feel for how much time I should reasonably quote.When I say reasonable, I mean that I don't want to bill the client forour learning curve and RTFM time.Thursday, March 23, 2006, 12:13:12 PM, Dave Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:DD Are you importing from an IMail installation? My experience with that wasDD very good, except they forgot to do the domain aliases. I didn't try DD autoresponders, but that should be minimal. It brought over all the mail asDD well.DD Most of the time I spent on the project was in configruing add-ons likeDD Declude, Sniffer, inv-uribl, etc., not the main product.DD Installation of the product itself is pretty straightforward. I read theDD forum posts and decided that, even though I didn't like the paths theyDD chose, I should accept the defaults. It seems that most of the people whoDD were having really odd problems were using different paths. Having saidDD that, all the path-problem type posts I saw were with V2 and the current V3DD should be a lot better.DD As an example, the product installs in "c:\program DD files\smartertools\smartermail" where I would much rather have it in DD "c:\smartermail" to make it easier to get to.DD One word of caution: there appear to be oddball problems with the alternateDD "skins," which are really just color schemes. Conventional wisdom on theDD forums seems to be "just use the default skin"...DD -Dave DohertyDD Skywaves, Inc.DD - Original Message - DD From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>DD To: <declude.junkmail@declude.com>DD Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:42 PMDD Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT Smarter Mail Installation We've been asked to estimate/quote an installation of SmarterMail, which we've not actually installed before. There are 4 domains with fixed IP addresses, 64 POP boxes WebMail and 5 two-three sentence auto-responders. For those of you who have been through it before, could you give me an idea of how much time you feel is reasonable, not including our own RTFM and learning curve time. Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. DD ---DD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. ToDD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andDD type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundDD at http://www.mail-archive.com.Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net(972) 788-2364 Fax: (972) 788-5049---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.---[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]
