Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Declude support says it is a known problem and they are currently working on a resolution. Saturday, July 15, 2006, 11:46:16 AM, John T (Lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We've had Hijack shut-down for about 24 hours and we are still seeing >> mail delivery with scores well over our hold weight. JTL> Time to put the JunkMail log into DEBUG mode, run it until you know the JTL> problem has occurred, put it back into what ever log mode you desire, then JTL> copy out all the lines for a message in question. Feel free to post those JTL> lines here or send it off list if you want. JTL> John T JTL> eServices For You JTL> "Seek, and ye shall find!" JTL> --- JTL> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JTL> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JTL> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found JTL> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
> Turning-off Hijack had no affect. The issue continued. OK, as I suspected, the issue has nothing to do with Hijack. > Are you referring to the "Forward" field, just below the "reply-to" > field of the User's record in Imail? Are you saying that using that > field, (instead of setting up an Alias record, instead) will somehow > let mail through, when it is over the hold weight? No, what I was referring to is called Store and Forward service or Gateway service where the domain involved is no where to be found in Imail, but the domain is listed in the HOSTS file and Imail relays for the IP of the gatewayed server. Something entirely different from what is going on here. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
> We've had Hijack shut-down for about 24 hours and we are still seeing > mail delivery with scores well over our hold weight. Time to put the JunkMail log into DEBUG mode, run it until you know the problem has occurred, put it back into what ever log mode you desire, then copy out all the lines for a message in question. Feel free to post those lines here or send it off list if you want. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Turning-off Hijack had no affect. The issue continued. Are you referring to the "Forward" field, just below the "reply-to" field of the User's record in Imail? Are you saying that using that field, (instead of setting up an Alias record, instead) will somehow let mail through, when it is over the hold weight? Thanks, Saturday, July 15, 2006, 12:57:30 AM, John T (Lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: JTL> Note, if this is related to Hijack, there either there is a new bug in JTL> Hijack or there is a misconfiguration somewhere, as Hijack only checks JTL> outbound messages. NOTE: If you are doing gateway service rather than using JTL> aliases, you can be caught by this. Another reason that gateway service JTL> (Store and Forward) is no longer a recommended practice. JTL> John T JTL> eServices For You JTL> "Seek, and ye shall find!" >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - >> Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:38 AM >> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com >> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered >> >> I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable >> Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I >> can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the >> message before Declude kills it. >> >> >> Karl Drugge >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >> Linda Pagillo >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM >> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com >> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered >> >> Don: >> >> We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering >> department. >> >> Linda Pagillo >> Technical Support Engineer >> Declude - Your Email security is our businessT >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: >> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM >> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered >> >> >> > We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher >> > than our hold weight. >> > >> > The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is >> > addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of >> > the same domain and other times of different domains. >> > >> > We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this >> > behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few >> > releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. >> > >> > Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > >> > >> > Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net >> > (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> > at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. JTL> --- JTL> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JTL> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JTL> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found JTL> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
We've had Hijack shut-down for about 24 hours and we are still seeing mail delivery with scores well over our hold weight. Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:37:38 AM, IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ISEKD> I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable ISEKD> Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I ISEKD> can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the ISEKD> message before Declude kills it. ISEKD> Karl Drugge ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> -Original Message- ISEKD> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ISEKD> Linda Pagillo ISEKD> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM ISEKD> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com ISEKD> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered ISEKD> Don: ISEKD> We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering ISEKD> department. ISEKD> Linda Pagillo ISEKD> Technical Support Engineer ISEKD> Declude - Your Email security is our businessT ISEKD> - Original Message - ISEKD> From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ISEKD> To: ISEKD> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM ISEKD> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered >> We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher >> than our hold weight. >> >> The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is >> addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of >> the same domain and other times of different domains. >> >> We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this >> behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few >> releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. >> >> Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net >> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD> --- ISEKD> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found ISEKD> at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD> --- ISEKD> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found ISEKD> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Note, if this is related to Hijack, there either there is a new bug in Hijack or there is a misconfiguration somewhere, as Hijack only checks outbound messages. NOTE: If you are doing gateway service rather than using aliases, you can be caught by this. Another reason that gateway service (Store and Forward) is no longer a recommended practice. John T eServices For You "Seek, and ye shall find!" > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - > Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:38 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered > > I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable > Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I > can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the > message before Declude kills it. > > > Karl Drugge > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Linda Pagillo > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered > > Don: > > We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering > department. > > Linda Pagillo > Technical Support Engineer > Declude - Your Email security is our businessT > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered > > > > We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher > > than our hold weight. > > > > The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is > > addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of > > the same domain and other times of different domains. > > > > We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this > > behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few > > releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. > > > > Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net > > (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. > > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Thanks good to know, but I think it started before we began running HiJack. I'll disable hijack, though. Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:37:38 AM, IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ISEKD> I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable ISEKD> Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I ISEKD> can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the ISEKD> message before Declude kills it. ISEKD> Karl Drugge ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> ISEKD> -Original Message- ISEKD> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ISEKD> Linda Pagillo ISEKD> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM ISEKD> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com ISEKD> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered ISEKD> Don: ISEKD> We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering ISEKD> department. ISEKD> Linda Pagillo ISEKD> Technical Support Engineer ISEKD> Declude - Your Email security is our businessT ISEKD> - Original Message - ISEKD> From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ISEKD> To: ISEKD> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM ISEKD> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered >> We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher >> than our hold weight. >> >> The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is >> addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of >> the same domain and other times of different domains. >> >> We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this >> behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few >> releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. >> >> Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net >> (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To >> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and >> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found >> at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD> --- ISEKD> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found ISEKD> at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD> --- ISEKD> This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD> unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD> type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found ISEKD> at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the message before Declude kills it. Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Pagillo Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered > We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher > than our hold weight. > > The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is > addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of > the same domain and other times of different domains. > > We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this > behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few > releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. > > Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? > > Thanks, > > > > Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net > (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: "Don Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered > We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher > than our hold weight. > > The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is > addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of > the same domain and other times of different domains. > > We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this > behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few > releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. > > Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? > > Thanks, > > > > Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net > (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 > > > > > --- > This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To > unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and > type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found > at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
