RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
You can follow the link in the text that the SpamCop RBL returns, and
then follow a link there for further information:

http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=blcheck&ip=216.9.248.51

Which shows that this Blackberry server is listed again and will be for
the next 16 hours.  It also shows the recent history of this IP address
with SpamCop:

Listing History
In the past 9.8 days, it has been listed 5 times for a total of 2.7 days

What I've noticed is that service providers like Blackberry run afoul of
SpamCop and other lists due to their clients' autoresponders which reply
to every virus and forged MAILFROM, so the provider gets listed as
sending to spamtraps or listed for sending viruses.

The advice to use REVDNS or other counterweight tests to smooth out
blacklists sounds good to me, too.

Andrew 8)

 

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> Behalf Of Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:20 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked
> 
>  
> Today I found this in a message (declude logs)
> 
> Msg failed SPAMCOP ("Blocked - see
> http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.9.248.51";
> 
> I verified why was this address blocked and found out that 
> Spamcop site says
> "216.9.248.51 not listed in bl.spamcop.net" Verification was 
> done 5 hours after the blocked message was received.
> 
> IP belongs to one of the Blackberry's smtp servers.
> 
> Any ideas? Could an address be removed within few hours?.
> 
> Any ideas? Is Spamcop failing or this is common?
> 
> Luis
> 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
John and Darrel. Thank you for your answers. I will be extremely careful
then with Spamcop, the revdns is a very good suggestion.

Regards
Luis 

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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Sent: MiƩrcoles, 20 de Septiembre de 2006 07:45 a.m.
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but 
> not blocked
> 
> Yes, servers can be removed from Spamcop pretty quick 
> depending on various factors.  FWIW IMO Spamcop tends to list 
> known legit mailservers fairly often (gmail, aol, earthlink, 
> etc).  I use it, but I also counter weight revdns for some of 
> those big providers mailservers to counter spamcop hits.
> 
> Darrell
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> Declude And Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, 
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:20 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked
> 
> 
> 
> Today I found this in a message (declude logs)
> 
> Msg failed SPAMCOP ("Blocked - see
> http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.9.248.51";
> 
> I verified why was this address blocked and found out that 
> Spamcop site says
> "216.9.248.51 not listed in bl.spamcop.net" Verification was 
> done 5 hours
> after the blocked message was received.
> 
> IP belongs to one of the Blackberry's smtp servers.
> 
> Any ideas? Could an address be removed within few hours?.
> 
> Any ideas? Is Spamcop failing or this is common?
> 
> Luis
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Yes, servers can be removed from Spamcop pretty quick depending on various 
factors.  FWIW IMO Spamcop tends to list known legit mailservers fairly 
often (gmail, aol, earthlink, etc).  I use it, but I also counter weight 
revdns for some of those big providers mailservers to counter spamcop hits.

Darrell

Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude And 
Imail.  IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG 
Integration, and Log Parsers.

- Original Message - 
From: "Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked



Today I found this in a message (declude logs)

Msg failed SPAMCOP ("Blocked - see
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.9.248.51";

I verified why was this address blocked and found out that Spamcop site says
"216.9.248.51 not listed in bl.spamcop.net" Verification was done 5 hours
after the blocked message was received.

IP belongs to one of the Blackberry's smtp servers.

Any ideas? Could an address be removed within few hours?.

Any ideas? Is Spamcop failing or this is common?

Luis




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Yes, an IP could be delisted within a few hours.

John T
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"Seek, and ye shall find!"

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Panda
> Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:20 PM
> To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked
> 
> 
> Today I found this in a message (declude logs)
> 
> Msg failed SPAMCOP ("Blocked - see
> http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.9.248.51";
> 
> I verified why was this address blocked and found out that Spamcop site
says
> "216.9.248.51 not listed in bl.spamcop.net" Verification was done 5 hours
> after the blocked message was received.
> 
> IP belongs to one of the Blackberry's smtp servers.
> 
> Any ideas? Could an address be removed within few hours?.
> 
> Any ideas? Is Spamcop failing or this is common?
> 
> Luis
> 
> 
> 
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[Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-19 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
 
Today I found this in a message (declude logs)

Msg failed SPAMCOP ("Blocked - see
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?216.9.248.51";

I verified why was this address blocked and found out that Spamcop site says
"216.9.248.51 not listed in bl.spamcop.net" Verification was done 5 hours
after the blocked message was received.

IP belongs to one of the Blackberry's smtp servers.

Any ideas? Could an address be removed within few hours?.

Any ideas? Is Spamcop failing or this is common?

Luis




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