Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains
Title: Message That would not be a good idea, especially since this is a public list and if he did that anyone could spam his users by setting their return address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I think people are missing the point here. We are not talking about blacklisting anyone with multiple dashes in their domain names, we are talking about adding weight to their messages in an overall weighting system because lots of spammers use dashes in their domain name. The thought is that they would also fail other tests that would cause their spam messages to be held or deleted, but that legitimate messages that use multiple dashes would not fail lots of other spam tests, so the minimal weight that gets added to their messages for having multiple dashes would not cause them to be held or have any action applied to them, and they would just get delivered as usual. Bill - Original Message - From: George Kulman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Kami, Please whitelist my Almost-On-Line.com domain which I use for AOL convertees and also use as a honey pot. George KulmanPartnerRidge Systems, L.L.C. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:15 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more & more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us - @u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com - .2-buy-drugs-online4sale.com - .best-adult-mail.com - .best-offers-found-here.com - .cheat-on-my-husband.com - .come-n-get-me.com - .cut-to-the-chase.com - .daily-specials-daily1.com - .daily-specials-now.com - .debt-consolidation-direct-online.com - .direct-online-sales.com - .dont-miss-this-deal.com - .drug-store-4-now.com - .fast-quotes-direct.com - .fix-the-computer.com - .for-your-credit.com this is just a simple querry of our database & many more as I am sure you agree... What if? a test that we can give weight on number of dashes in a domain? I am yet to see companies with more than one dash.. I can even go as far as two dashes but any company with more than 2 dashes in their domain is somehow looking at a marketing issue since giving that address to anyone is just too difficult. I am sure in this group of all admins we can do a good review of domains and see if this observation makes any sense. Thoughts? Regards, Kami
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains
Title: Message Kami, Please whitelist my Almost-On-Line.com domain which I use for AOL convertees and also use as a honey pot. George KulmanPartnerRidge Systems, L.L.C. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami RazvanSent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:15 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more & more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us - @u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com - .2-buy-drugs-online4sale.com - .best-adult-mail.com - .best-offers-found-here.com - .cheat-on-my-husband.com - .come-n-get-me.com - .cut-to-the-chase.com - .daily-specials-daily1.com - .daily-specials-now.com - .debt-consolidation-direct-online.com - .direct-online-sales.com - .dont-miss-this-deal.com - .drug-store-4-now.com - .fast-quotes-direct.com - .fix-the-computer.com - .for-your-credit.com this is just a simple querry of our database & many more as I am sure you agree... What if? a test that we can give weight on number of dashes in a domain? I am yet to see companies with more than one dash.. I can even go as far as two dashes but any company with more than 2 dashes in their domain is somehow looking at a marketing issue since giving that address to anyone is just too difficult. I am sure in this group of all admins we can do a good review of domains and see if this observation makes any sense. Thoughts? Regards, Kami
[Declude.JunkMail] [Declude.Junkmail] dashes in domains
I have two dashes in my domain. If this test is going to be used, you may want to look for three or more dashes, or consecutive dashes. Regards, Bill Kami, I totally agree, I think this would be a very good test. Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more & more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us - @ u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com - .2-buy-drugs-online4sale.com - .best-adult-mail.com - .best-offers-found-here.com - .cheat-on-my-husband.com - .come-n-get-me.com - .cut-to-the-chase.com - .daily-specials-daily1.com - .daily-specials-now.com - .debt-consolidation-direct-online.com - .direct-online-sales.com - .dont-miss-this-deal.com - .drug-store-4-now.com - .fast-quotes-direct.com - .fix-the-computer.com - .for-your-credit.com this is just a simple querry of our database & many more as I am sure you agree... What if? a test that we can give weight on number of dashes in a domain? I am yet to see companies with more than one dash.. I can even go as far as two dashes but any company with more than 2 dashes in their domain is somehow looking at a marketing issue since giving that address to anyone is just too difficult. I am sure in this group of all admins we can do a good review of domains and see if this observation makes any sense. Thoughts? Regards, Kami --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains
Title: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Damn... Gotta stop emailing while I work... The 2nd example is flawed... MAILFROM 8 CONTAINS @*-*- Above is what I meant tho the example below would catch mail... Probably list confirmations which frequently have -’s in the address. -Josh From: Joshua Levitsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 12:59:58 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Seems like if there was a wildcard character we could use in the filter files then you could do HELO 8 CONTAINS -*- MAILFROM 8 CONTAINS -*-*@ Assuming * was our wildcard then that would do it no? But since * is valid in an email you’d have to do ** I suppose if you wanted to actually look for a * or a wildcard that isn’t a valid email character. A % seems like a good candidate since we hold those anyways even tho they are valid characters in emails. -Josh From: "Bill Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:37:28 -0700 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Kami, I totally agree, I think this would be a very good test. Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more & more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us - @u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com - .2-buy-drugs-online4sale.com - .best-adult-mail.com - .best-offers-found-here.com - .cheat-on-my-husband.com - .come-n-get-me.com - .cut-to-the-chase.com - .daily-specials-daily1.com - .daily-specials-now.com - .debt-consolidation-direct-online.com - .direct-online-sales.com - .dont-miss-this-deal.com - .drug-store-4-now.com - .fast-quotes-direct.com - .fix-the-computer.com - .for-your-credit.com this is just a simple querry of our database & many more as I am sure you agree... What if? a test that we can give weight on number of dashes in a domain? I am yet to see companies with more than one dash.. I can even go as far as two dashes but any company with more than 2 dashes in their domain is somehow looking at a marketing issue since giving that address to anyone is just too difficult. I am sure in this group of all admins we can do a good review of domains and see if this observation makes any sense. Thoughts? Regards, Kami
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains
Title: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Seems like if there was a wildcard character we could use in the filter files then you could do HELO 8 CONTAINS -*- MAILFROM 8 CONTAINS -*-*@ Assuming * was our wildcard then that would do it no? But since * is valid in an email you’d have to do ** I suppose if you wanted to actually look for a * or a wildcard that isn’t a valid email character. A % seems like a good candidate since we hold those anyways even tho they are valid characters in emails. -Josh From: "Bill Landry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:37:28 -0700 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Kami, I totally agree, I think this would be a very good test. Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more & more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us - @u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com - .2-buy-drugs-online4sale.com - .best-adult-mail.com - .best-offers-found-here.com - .cheat-on-my-husband.com - .come-n-get-me.com - .cut-to-the-chase.com - .daily-specials-daily1.com - .daily-specials-now.com - .debt-consolidation-direct-online.com - .direct-online-sales.com - .dont-miss-this-deal.com - .drug-store-4-now.com - .fast-quotes-direct.com - .fix-the-computer.com - .for-your-credit.com this is just a simple querry of our database & many more as I am sure you agree... What if? a test that we can give weight on number of dashes in a domain? I am yet to see companies with more than one dash.. I can even go as far as two dashes but any company with more than 2 dashes in their domain is somehow looking at a marketing issue since giving that address to anyone is just too difficult. I am sure in this group of all admins we can do a good review of domains and see if this observation makes any sense. Thoughts? Regards, Kami
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains
Title: Message Kami, I totally agree, I think this would be a very good test. Bill - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:15 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more & more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us - @u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com - .2-buy-drugs-online4sale.com - .best-adult-mail.com - .best-offers-found-here.com - .cheat-on-my-husband.com - .come-n-get-me.com - .cut-to-the-chase.com - .daily-specials-daily1.com - .daily-specials-now.com - .debt-consolidation-direct-online.com - .direct-online-sales.com - .dont-miss-this-deal.com - .drug-store-4-now.com - .fast-quotes-direct.com - .fix-the-computer.com - .for-your-credit.com this is just a simple querry of our database & many more as I am sure you agree... What if? a test that we can give weight on number of dashes in a domain? I am yet to see companies with more than one dash.. I can even go as far as two dashes but any company with more than 2 dashes in their domain is somehow looking at a marketing issue since giving that address to anyone is just too difficult. I am sure in this group of all admins we can do a good review of domains and see if this observation makes any sense. Thoughts? Regards, Kami
[Declude.JunkMail] dashes in domains
Title: Message Hi; It seems like with all the spammish domains being taken now more & more we see domains with lots of dashes.. Double dashes! - @ADULT---WEB-CAM.COM - @CHINA--V.COM - @girls--panties.com Single dashes! - @home-loan-quotes-direct.com - @horny-wild-girls.us - @u-need-1nk-we-th1nk.com - .2-buy-drugs-online4sale.com - .best-adult-mail.com - .best-offers-found-here.com - .cheat-on-my-husband.com - .come-n-get-me.com - .cut-to-the-chase.com - .daily-specials-daily1.com - .daily-specials-now.com - .debt-consolidation-direct-online.com - .direct-online-sales.com - .dont-miss-this-deal.com - .drug-store-4-now.com - .fast-quotes-direct.com - .fix-the-computer.com - .for-your-credit.com this is just a simple querry of our database & many more as I am sure you agree... What if? a test that we can give weight on number of dashes in a domain? I am yet to see companies with more than one dash.. I can even go as far as two dashes but any company with more than 2 dashes in their domain is somehow looking at a marketing issue since giving that address to anyone is just too difficult. I am sure in this group of all admins we can do a good review of domains and see if this observation makes any sense. Thoughts? Regards, Kami
