RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
I have a question then. I have a small setup (only two IP's with maybe 1000 users). If I set up relay for addresses, what happens if someone tries to send an email from their home? We have web access available as well. I understand it works great as long as all mail is sent through the SMTP with the address listed in the 'relay for addresses' but will it block email if they are using another computer at a different location or does it pick up only from the SMTP server? Family, God, and Corps...all else are mere details Jim Rooth http://www.usmcfew.com/3516 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:17 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB What he said is that relay for addresses and no relay are the only two options that protect your mail server from being an open relay--the other options do not. You can use the no relay option if you are using SMTP Auth, otherwise, relay for addresses is the way to go. Bill -Original Message- From: Bennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB Scott, Are you saying that relay for address is not a good idea.. We have customer that has a static IP address with a different provider but we provide their mail and webspace. I have their Static IP listed in my allowed addresses Bennie - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only To make sure that you are not an open relay, you can either use IMail's Relay for addresses (in which case you would enter a list of safe IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH), or No mail relay (which really means that everyone must use SMTP AUTH). Note that relay setting apply only to outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will still be able to get mail. Any other relay options will allow spammers to send mail through your server. In the case of Relay for local hosts, IMail will allow spammers to send unlimited spam if they pretend to be using a return address on one of your domains. Are you running Declude Hijack (which would limit the amount of mail that a spammer could send)? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/2002 --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
If the IP is not defined in Relay for Addresses they will not be able to send via your SMTP, unless they authenticate. However, if you are using an external database, each mail host will need an IP assigned, since authentication does not work with virtual mail hosts and an external database in Imail version 6.xx (dunno about version 7.xx). Sunday, March 31, 2002, 8:33:37 AM, Jim Rooth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JR I have a question then. I have a small setup (only two IP's with maybe JR 1000 users). If I set up relay for addresses, what happens if someone JR tries to send an email from their home? We have web access available as JR well. JR I understand it works great as long as all mail is sent through the SMTP JR with the address listed in the 'relay for addresses' but will it block JR email if they are using another computer at a different location or does JR it pick up only from the SMTP server? JR Family, God, and Corps...all else are mere details JR Jim Rooth JR http://www.usmcfew.com/3516 JR -Original Message- JR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bill Landry JR Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 3:17 PM JR To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' JR Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB JR What he said is that relay for addresses and no relay are the only JR two JR options that protect your mail server from being an open relay--the JR other JR options do not. You can use the no relay option if you are using SMTP JR Auth, otherwise, relay for addresses is the way to go. JR Bill JR -Original Message- JR From: Bennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] JR Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 10:20 AM JR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB JR Scott, JR Are you saying that relay for address is not a good idea.. We have JR customer that has a static IP address with a different provider but we JR provide their mail and webspace. JR I have their Static IP listed in my allowed addresses JR Bennie JR - Original Message - JR From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JR Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:23 AM JR Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only To make sure that you are not an open relay, you can either use JR IMail's Relay for addresses (in which case you would enter a list of safe JR IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those JR safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH), or No mail relay (which really JR means that everyone must use SMTP AUTH). Note that relay setting apply only JR to outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will JR still be able to get mail. Any other relay options will allow spammers to send mail through your server. In the case of Relay for local hosts, IMail will allow JR spammers to send unlimited spam if they pretend to be using a return address on JR one of your domains. Are you running Declude Hijack (which would limit the amount of mail JR that JR a spammer could send)? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JR (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] JR --- JR [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] JR --- JR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JR (http://www.declude.com)] JR --- JR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JR type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web JR site at http://www.declude.com . JR --- JR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus JR (http://www.declude.com)] JR --- JR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JR type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail JR [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web JR site at http://www.declude.com . JR --- JR Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. JR Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). JR Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/2002 JR --- JR Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. JR Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). JR Version: 6.0.343 / Virus Database: 190 - Release Date: 3/22/2002 JR --- JR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] JR --- JR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
Scott, Are you saying that relay for address is not a good idea.. We have customer that has a static IP address with a different provider but we provide their mail and webspace. I have their Static IP listed in my allowed addresses Bennie - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only To make sure that you are not an open relay, you can either use IMail's Relay for addresses (in which case you would enter a list of safe IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH), or No mail relay (which really means that everyone must use SMTP AUTH). Note that relay setting apply only to outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will still be able to get mail. Any other relay options will allow spammers to send mail through your server. In the case of Relay for local hosts, IMail will allow spammers to send unlimited spam if they pretend to be using a return address on one of your domains. Are you running Declude Hijack (which would limit the amount of mail that a spammer could send)? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
What he said is that relay for addresses and no relay are the only two options that protect your mail server from being an open relay--the other options do not. You can use the no relay option if you are using SMTP Auth, otherwise, relay for addresses is the way to go. Bill -Original Message- From: Bennie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB Scott, Are you saying that relay for address is not a good idea.. We have customer that has a static IP address with a different provider but we provide their mail and webspace. I have their Static IP listed in my allowed addresses Bennie - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only To make sure that you are not an open relay, you can either use IMail's Relay for addresses (in which case you would enter a list of safe IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH), or No mail relay (which really means that everyone must use SMTP AUTH). Note that relay setting apply only to outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will still be able to get mail. Any other relay options will allow spammers to send mail through your server. In the case of Relay for local hosts, IMail will allow spammers to send unlimited spam if they pretend to be using a return address on one of your domains. Are you running Declude Hijack (which would limit the amount of mail that a spammer could send)? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only To make sure that you are not an open relay, you can either use IMail's Relay for addresses (in which case you would enter a list of safe IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH), or No mail relay (which really means that everyone must use SMTP AUTH). Note that relay setting apply only to outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will still be able to get mail. Any other relay options will allow spammers to send mail through your server. In the case of Relay for local hosts, IMail will allow spammers to send unlimited spam if they pretend to be using a return address on one of your domains. Are you running Declude Hijack (which would limit the amount of mail that a spammer could send)? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
thanks! I have done this Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/28/02 10:21AM Please see: http://support.ipswitch.com/kb/IM-19980116-JB02.htm about relay options. Particularly the paragraph that reads: Note that only 'No Mail Relay' or 'Relay for Addresses' can prevent unauthorized relaying by remote senders who spoof as local users. You MUST set your options to 'No Mail Relay' or 'Relay for Addresses' to close your open relay! Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Bone Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB I just got listed on ORDB ! please see http://ordb.org/lookup/?host=216.54.53.68 How can this have happened? I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only and I have passed open relay tests before! How can I resolve this? thanks! Chris Bone Web Engineer Chartway Federal Credit Union --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
thanks Scott Yes, I have the Hijack in place and it is saying 2 got relayed ;) I have now gone to the No relay option Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/28/02 10:23AM I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only To make sure that you are not an open relay, you can either use IMail's Relay for addresses (in which case you would enter a list of safe IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH), or No mail relay (which really means that everyone must use SMTP AUTH). Note that relay setting apply only to outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will still be able to get mail. Any other relay options will allow spammers to send mail through your server. In the case of Relay for local hosts, IMail will allow spammers to send unlimited spam if they pretend to be using a return address on one of your domains. Are you running Declude Hijack (which would limit the amount of mail that a spammer could send)? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
I know this is slightly off-topic for here, but has anyone had problems with entering subnet masks in the Relay for addresses? When I enter individual IP addresses here, the server works fine, requiring SMTP AUTH for anyone not connection from one of the listed IP's. However when I enter our subnet mask, the server opens wide, letting anyone send email from or to anyone, like an open relay. At 10:23 AM 3/28/2002, R. Scott Perry wrote: I have my IMail set to Relay for local hosts only To make sure that you are not an open relay, you can either use IMail's Relay for addresses (in which case you would enter a list of safe IP addresses that your users may come from; anyone not coming from those safe IPs would need to use SMTP AUTH), or No mail relay (which really means that everyone must use SMTP AUTH). Note that relay setting apply only to outgoing E-mail, so no matter what your settings are, your users will still be able to get mail. Any other relay options will allow spammers to send mail through your server. In the case of Relay for local hosts, IMail will allow spammers to send unlimited spam if they pretend to be using a return address on one of your domains. Are you running Declude Hijack (which would limit the amount of mail that a spammer could send)? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . ___ Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 9184011 http://www.nerosoft.com
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
[NOTE: Your mail server [65.204.98.70] is missing a reverse DNS entry. All Internet hosts are required to have a reverse DNS entry. The missing reverse DNS entry will cause your mail to be treated as spam on some servers, such as AOL.] Speaking of the 2 got relayed and HiJack. What exactly does that mean? I have a few in my DeConn that shows like 12 got relayed, and 4 got relayed. How do I read this, or I guess what does that mean?? That just lists the number of E-mails that were relayed from a specific IP. So 192.168.100.112 relayed 4 E-mails would mean that the IP address 192.168.100.112 sent 4 E-mails to external addresses (with only 4 E-mails, this would probably be a legitimate local user). A 1 indicates that E-mail is now being held, and a 2 means that E-mail is permanently being held. So if you see 192.168.100.115 12 relayed 480 E-mails, that would mean that the E-mail is being held permanently (the 12), and that they had sent out 480 E-mails so far. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
Along the lines of Hijack, I still occasionally get customers complaining of mail disappearing when the send to a large number of recipients in a single email, usually in the order of 80 or more. I have a tough time convincing customers to break up messages and it does not seem to be universal. However, the customers that it happens to, it seems to be consistant. This number of recipients will trip my first level on Hijack, but hold 2 is at 400 because I have one customer that is absolutely insistant that she has to send to her whole list at once (it's a church bulletin they sent to a varying list once a month). That email is never stopped, exept in the first hold. These others diassappear completely, nothing in hold 1 or 2. If I turn off Hijack they send just fine. To finish up, has anyone else seen this? Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB [NOTE: Your mail server [65.204.98.70] is missing a reverse DNS entry. All Internet hosts are required to have a reverse DNS entry. The missing reverse DNS entry will cause your mail to be treated as spam on some servers, such as AOL.] Speaking of the 2 got relayed and HiJack. What exactly does that mean? I have a few in my DeConn that shows like 12 got relayed, and 4 got relayed. How do I read this, or I guess what does that mean?? That just lists the number of E-mails that were relayed from a specific IP. So 192.168.100.112 relayed 4 E-mails would mean that the IP address 192.168.100.112 sent 4 E-mails to external addresses (with only 4 E-mails, this would probably be a legitimate local user). A 1 indicates that E-mail is now being held, and a 2 means that E-mail is permanently being held. So if you see 192.168.100.115 12 relayed 480 E-mails, that would mean that the E-mail is being held permanently (the 12), and that they had sent out 480 E-mails so far. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . __ Information from NOD32 1.237 (20020327) __ This message was checked by NOD32 for Exchange e-mail monitor. http://www.nod32.com --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
I know this is slightly off-topic for here, but has anyone had problems with entering subnet masks in the Relay for addresses? When I enter individual IP addresses here, the server works fine, requiring SMTP AUTH for anyone not connection from one of the listed IP's. However when I enter our subnet mask, the server opens wide, letting anyone send email from or to anyone, like an open relay. What do you have listed as the IPs and subnet mask? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
[NOTE: Your mail server [65.204.98.70] is missing a reverse DNS entry. All Internet hosts are required to have a reverse DNS entry. The missing reverse DNS entry will cause your mail to be treated as spam on some servers, such as AOL.] What is a good threshhold to use for both of the holds in your honest opinion. I am running about 9000 addresses in an ISP. So ocassionaly some of those people are going to be sending those anoying chain message to everyone on their address book. Just looking for a little guidance. Thanks in advacne. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 11:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB Along the lines of Hijack, I still occasionally get customers complaining of mail disappearing when the send to a large number of recipients in a single email, usually in the order of 80 or more. Do you see a line Outgoing from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx HOLDING (1) in the Declude Hijack logs when this happens? That would indicate that Declude Hijack starting holding the E-mail. Have you checked the IMail SMTP logs to see if the E-mail was sent out by IMail (or if any error messages appear there)? What doesn't seem to make sense is that it would happen when 80 or so E-mails were sent out, but not when 400 were sent out (since the mail should be handled the same in both cases, since the first threshold is hit but not the second one). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
I have the top 64 IP's of a class C, so I was using 216.13.3.192 for both. If you use 216.13.3.192 as the IP, and 255.255.255.192 as the netmask, it should work. A netmask should (except in the most unusual cases, such as if one person got odd IPs in a given range whereas someone else got the even IPs) be a binary number of all 1's followed by all 0's. By using 216.13.3.192 as the netmask, you'll get unusual results. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
oops. Sorry, that's what I meant. 216.13.3.192 for the IP and 255.255.255.192 for the netmask, just as you said. When doing so, it acted as an open relay to any connection. At 01:17 PM 3/28/2002, R. Scott Perry wrote: I have the top 64 IP's of a class C, so I was using 216.13.3.192 for both. If you use 216.13.3.192 as the IP, and 255.255.255.192 as the netmask, it should work. A netmask should (except in the most unusual cases, such as if one person got odd IPs in a given range whereas someone else got the even IPs) be a binary number of all 1's followed by all 0's. By using 216.13.3.192 as the netmask, you'll get unusual results. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . ___ Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 9184011 http://www.nerosoft.com
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
oops. Sorry, that's what I meant. 216.13.3.192 for the IP and 255.255.255.192 for the netmask, just as you said. When doing so, it acted as an open relay to any connection. Ah, that's not good. Unless there was an oversight somewhere, that sounds like a bug in IMail. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
I'm running 6.06. Can anyone else running 6.06 confirm this behavior? At 01:46 PM 3/28/2002, R. Scott Perry wrote: oops. Sorry, that's what I meant. 216.13.3.192 for the IP and 255.255.255.192 for the netmask, just as you said. When doing so, it acted as an open relay to any connection. Ah, that's not good. Unless there was an oversight somewhere, that sounds like a bug in IMail. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . ___ Scott MacLean [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 9184011 http://www.nerosoft.com
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDB
I have a 6.06 installation, and I have a combination of differently-sized subnets in my local address table, and I have never seen this happen. For example, my IMail server itself sits in a 255.255.255.240 netmask. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott MacLeanSent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 1:59 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELP: I just got listed on ORDBI'm running 6.06. Can anyone else running 6.06 confirm this behavior?At 01:46 PM 3/28/2002, R. Scott Perry wrote: oops. Sorry, that's what I meant. 216.13.3.192 for the IP and 255.255.255.192 for the netmask, just as you said. When doing so, it acted as an open relay to any connection.Ah, that's not good. Unless there was an oversight somewhere, that sounds like a bug in IMail. -Scott---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our website at http://www.declude.com .___Scott MacLean[EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 9184011http://www.nerosoft.com