Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test?
on 8/13/04 9:55 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Read the archives. A mesage cannot be *both* deleted and send to someone else. A copy to action is just adding an extra recipient to the smtp envelope. As soon as that has been done the delete action will delete it all, including the just modified smtp envelope. If you want a copyto/delete combination, use the routeto action. That will send the mesage to another e-mail adderess in stead of to the intended recipient. Routeto doesn't produce any better results than copyto. If the weight of the incoming message exceeds our delete weight then I don't receive a version of the message. I'm using the latest interim, with 2 duplicate tests with different actions. The second test uses the routeto (or copyto) action while the first test uses the warn action. I have an independent .junkmail file for the routeto (or copyto) e-mail address with no delete actions in that file. For example, a message is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which uses a .junkmail file that does contain delete actions) and the message fails SPECIALTEST and fails enough other tests to exceed our delete weight. Instead of the copyto or routeto action happening (to a special e-mail address with it's own .junkmail file which contains no delete actions) the incoming message gets deleted. 1. Things work perfectly if the message fails the SPECIALTEST and the weight of the incoming message is below the delete weight. 2. I can't remove the delete action for the delete weight, as over 100,000 messages a day exceed the delete weight. 3. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] address was just an example. Any message to any subscriber could fail the SPECIALTEST and be over the delete weight. I simply want a copy of every message that fails the SPECIALTEST. Ideas? Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test?
I simply want a copy of every message that fails the SPECIALTEST. Ideas? I'm not sure but how about defining the ROUTETO action before the DELETE action? Or maybe instead of deleting use the HOLD action, to move all spam messages in the /spool/spam folder. From this folder it can be deleted with a scheduled task and the ROUTETO action will work. For both suggestions I'm not sure if it will work. But as a more general suggestion I will renew my request to have a HOLDTO action that allows us to move queue files (D*.SMD and Q*.SMD) into different folders. This first step would already allow us to review only messages that are in a certain final weight range (for example between 20 and 30 points) All messages having above 30 points can be moved directly into a separate folder. As a second step it should be possible to write e separate Requeue-tool that can requeue messages from different HOLDTO folders (or bether: the requeue-tool, deliver they directly without waiting to the next Imail queue-run) This Requeue-tool could have the option to deliver to the original recipient or as you need to a special mailbox. Also it would be very nice if this Requeue-tool could call a second junkmail check in the hope that for a previously unambiguous classified message in the meantime are disponible updated filters, blacklists ... So a message reaching at the first time a final weight of 22 points could be hold in a separate folder and reviewed after a certain time (1 hour) If it fails again the same points it would be delivered. If in the meantime it will fail additional tests it will be definitively hold as spam. Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test?
Hi, Read the archives. A mesage cannot be *both* deleted and send to someone else. A copy to action is just adding an extra recipient to the smtp envelope. As soon as that has been done the delete action will delete it all, including the just modified smtp envelope. If you want a copyto/delete combination, use the routeto action. That will send the mesage to another e-mail adderess in stead of to the intended recipient. Routeto doesn't produce any better results than copyto. If the weight of the incoming message exceeds our delete weight then I don't receive a version of the message. Like I wrote, routeto is to be used in steds of *BOTH* the Copyto *and* the delete action. But. I'm using the latest interim, with 2 duplicate tests with different actions. But you have given them different names right? The second test uses the routeto (or copyto) action while the first test uses the warn action. I have an independent .junkmail file for the routeto (or copyto) e-mail address with no delete actions in that file. Ok, no delete action. So that should be the solution. Now have a look at the logfile for messages which meet the criterea. Just put the loglevel at high for a while if you havene't done so allready. Debug isn't neccesary here (yet). Have look what happens, whats actions is declude taking on those mesages? For example, a message is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (which uses a .junkmail file that does contain delete actions) and the message fails SPECIALTEST and fails enough other tests to exceed our delete weight. Instead of the copyto or routeto action happening (to a special e-mail address with it's own .junkmail file which contains no delete actions) the incoming message gets deleted. Right, no delete action. 1. Things work perfectly if the message fails the SPECIALTEST and the weight of the incoming message is below the delete weight. 2. I can't remove the delete action for the delete weight, as over 100,000 messages a day exceed the delete weight. Ahum, so the message get's deleted same problem, same cause. However. there is also an action called COPYFILE (i think). Read the archives as it is maybe in a beta or in one of the latest interims. The copyfile action makes a copy but does *not* (yet) include all the declude headers as the copy gets made before declude adds all it's stuff to the meaasge, although that may have changed by now. 3. The [EMAIL PROTECTED] address was just an example. Any message to any subscriber could fail the SPECIALTEST and be over the delete weight. I simply want a copy of every message that fails the SPECIALTEST. Ideas? I'm not sure about the action name but it's something like that. Groetjes, Bonno Bloksma Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse? --- [E-mail scanned at tio.nl for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test?
Or you could use an independent .junkmail file for the account that you are copying to and not have a delete action for any weight so the action would be something other than delete. I have an account that the JM file changes the subject to HOLD WEIGHT and DELETE WEIGHT so I know where I need to tweak. I THINK that may work as well... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of System Administrator Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test? on 8/13/04 9:18 AM, Bud Durland wrote: I belive the remedy is to create a second test, of the same type with the same criteria, and make COPYTO the action for that new test I'm currently doing that. Apparently, the over the delete weight messages get deleted before the copyto takes place. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test?
System Administrator wrote: I'd like to get a copy of all message that fail a certain test. I have a copyto action working for messages that fall below our delete weight but I'm not receiving messages that are over the delete weight. Is there anyway that I can get a copy of all messages that fail that test, no matter what their weight is? I belive the remedy is to create a second test, of the same type with the same criteria, and make COPYTO the action for that new test -- - Good is better than Evil because it's nicer -- Mammy Yokum - Bud Durland, CNE Mold-Rite Plastics Network Administrator http://www.mrpcap.com - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus / Sophos AV] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test?
on 8/13/04 9:18 AM, Bud Durland wrote: I belive the remedy is to create a second test, of the same type with the same criteria, and make COPYTO the action for that new test I'm currently doing that. Apparently, the over the delete weight messages get deleted before the copyto takes place. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test?
Hi, Read the archives. A mesage cannot be *both* deleted and send to someone else. A copy to action is just adding an extra recipient to the smtp envelope. As soon as that has been done the delete action will delete it all, including the just modified smtp envelope. If you want a copyto/delete combination, use the routeto action. That will send the mesage to another e-mail adderess in stead of to the intended recipient. Groetjes, Bonno Bloksma - Original Message - From: System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How do I get a copy of all messages that fail a certain test? on 8/13/04 9:18 AM, Bud Durland wrote: I belive the remedy is to create a second test, of the same type with the same criteria, and make COPYTO the action for that new test I'm currently doing that. Apparently, the over the delete weight messages get deleted before the copyto takes place. Greg --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [E-mail scanned at tio.nl for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [E-mail scanned at tio.nl for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
