Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Just a few minutes ago the Que manager stopped.
I did restart it fine this time.
What could this be?
H.
Heimir Eidskrem wrote:
Thank you for the reply.
Running 1.82 actually.
Imail monitor is off.
Its a dual Xeon 3.0GHz with 2GB Ram.
Load is pretty low. About a million emails a month.
No evidence of extra load.
I did turn off the auto restart.
Lets see if that makes a change or not...
Thanks,
Matt wrote:
Turn off the IMail Monitor service and see if things don't become
more stable. There have been suggestions that it will try to restart
a service that is only overwhelmed but not crashed, and the
restarting process can then actually cause it to crash. Windows 2003
services have their own recovery capabilities that should be more
stable. I have seen this happen before. It is quite possible that
some added load might be pushing your server to the limit, or maybe a
piece of content that IMail doesn't like seeing and Declude isn't
filtering. I've heard of that happening in the past also. Turn on
"Auto-deny possible hack attempts" in IMail's SMTP Security if that
isn't already on as this might also be the result of an overflow
condition during the SMTP session.
Declude 1.81 has a big flaw in it with the SPAMHEADERS test and you
should upgrade to at least 1.82. This shouldn't explain the
instability.
You should give some more detail about your server, especially
conditions related to load if this continues. There are many of us
running 1.82 without issues, and with SP1 my own server seems stable
and I have a good deal of volume going through it.
Matt
Heimir Eidskrem wrote:
We are crashing like crazy today, quemanager status goes to stop
pending.
Can not restart it, have to restart the server.
Imail 8.15 with fix
Declude 1.81
Fprot 3.16b
Windows 2003 Server Standard with Sp1.
Suggestions please
cott_powner wrote:
Sorry about not getting back to anyone – some malcontent set up a
winmx server in my network! Anyway the bottom line right now is:
Declude 1.81 - No problems for about a million years
Declude 2.0.6 - Imail crashes for two days
Reinstalled Declude 1.81 - No crashes for 1 day
Installed SP1 with Declude 1.81 - No crashes for ½ day but it seems
to run slower
Any thoughts – we are going to let SP1 run through the night. If it
still seems slow to access mail we will remove SP1 in the A.M.
Thanks,
Scott Powner
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Colbeck,
Andrew
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:19 PM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Nothing about the service that SP1 installs, but I did I find
multiple pages on Microsoft's site about "Application and User
Experience", which seems to be their quality and regresssion
testing. They indicate that 3rd party vendors should follow:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx
and
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/appsupp.mspx
this application testing in order to verify that their applications
work correctly with their OS. There is also a page that lists
120-plus applications that this "Application and User Experience"
team tested with Windows Server 2003 SP1, and produced results
(including their own software):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896367
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Matt
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:34 AM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude
2.0.6
I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features
that I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the
"Application Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)". It seems like both might represent overhead to
things like Declude which are called from a command line along
with all of the applications that it calls, and it might not be
wise to run them in such an environment. I haven't tried turning
them off yet, but I was just starting the process of researching
them. The "Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned
off in Services, and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is
controlled by the boot.ini. I can't find hardly any information on
the "Application Experience Lookup Service", but "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about it:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352
There is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may
not cause issues with .NET stuff. I don't know.
I haven't tried upping from Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply
SP1 and make sure that it was workable before introducing
something else that was
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Thank you for the reply.
Running 1.82 actually.
Imail monitor is off.
Its a dual Xeon 3.0GHz with 2GB Ram.
Load is pretty low. About a million emails a month.
No evidence of extra load.
I did turn off the auto restart.
Lets see if that makes a change or not...
Thanks,
Matt wrote:
Turn off the IMail Monitor service and see if things don't become more
stable. There have been suggestions that it will try to restart a
service that is only overwhelmed but not crashed, and the restarting
process can then actually cause it to crash. Windows 2003 services
have their own recovery capabilities that should be more stable. I
have seen this happen before. It is quite possible that some added
load might be pushing your server to the limit, or maybe a piece of
content that IMail doesn't like seeing and Declude isn't filtering.
I've heard of that happening in the past also. Turn on "Auto-deny
possible hack attempts" in IMail's SMTP Security if that isn't already
on as this might also be the result of an overflow condition during
the SMTP session.
Declude 1.81 has a big flaw in it with the SPAMHEADERS test and you
should upgrade to at least 1.82. This shouldn't explain the instability.
You should give some more detail about your server, especially
conditions related to load if this continues. There are many of us
running 1.82 without issues, and with SP1 my own server seems stable
and I have a good deal of volume going through it.
Matt
Heimir Eidskrem wrote:
We are crashing like crazy today, quemanager status goes to stop
pending.
Can not restart it, have to restart the server.
Imail 8.15 with fix
Declude 1.81
Fprot 3.16b
Windows 2003 Server Standard with Sp1.
Suggestions please
cott_powner wrote:
Sorry about not getting back to anyone – some malcontent set up a
winmx server in my network! Anyway the bottom line right now is:
Declude 1.81 - No problems for about a million years
Declude 2.0.6 - Imail crashes for two days
Reinstalled Declude 1.81 - No crashes for 1 day
Installed SP1 with Declude 1.81 - No crashes for ½ day but it seems
to run slower
Any thoughts – we are going to let SP1 run through the night. If it
still seems slow to access mail we will remove SP1 in the A.M.
Thanks,
Scott Powner
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Colbeck,
Andrew
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:19 PM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Nothing about the service that SP1 installs, but I did I find
multiple pages on Microsoft's site about "Application and User
Experience", which seems to be their quality and regresssion
testing. They indicate that 3rd party vendors should follow:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx
and
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/appsupp.mspx
this application testing in order to verify that their applications
work correctly with their OS. There is also a page that lists
120-plus applications that this "Application and User Experience"
team tested with Windows Server 2003 SP1, and produced results
(including their own software):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896367
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Matt
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:34 AM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features
that I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the
"Application Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)". It seems like both might represent overhead to
things like Declude which are called from a command line along
with all of the applications that it calls, and it might not be
wise to run them in such an environment. I haven't tried turning
them off yet, but I was just starting the process of researching
them. The "Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned
off in Services, and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is
controlled by the boot.ini. I can't find hardly any information on
the "Application Experience Lookup Service", but "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about it:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352
There is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may
not cause issues with .NET stuff. I don't know.
I haven't tried upping from Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply
SP1 and make sure that it was workable before introducing
something else that was new to the environment.
Matt
Erik wrote:
I'll add our point too. We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also SP1
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Turn off the IMail Monitor service and see if things don't become more
stable. There have been suggestions that it will try to restart a
service that is only overwhelmed but not crashed, and the restarting
process can then actually cause it to crash. Windows 2003 services have
their own recovery capabilities that should be more stable. I have seen
this happen before. It is quite possible that some added load might be
pushing your server to the limit, or maybe a piece of content that IMail
doesn't like seeing and Declude isn't filtering. I've heard of that
happening in the past also. Turn on "Auto-deny possible hack attempts"
in IMail's SMTP Security if that isn't already on as this might also be
the result of an overflow condition during the SMTP session.
Declude 1.81 has a big flaw in it with the SPAMHEADERS test and you
should upgrade to at least 1.82. This shouldn't explain the instability.
You should give some more detail about your server, especially
conditions related to load if this continues. There are many of us
running 1.82 without issues, and with SP1 my own server seems stable and
I have a good deal of volume going through it.
Matt
Heimir Eidskrem wrote:
We are crashing like crazy today, quemanager status goes to stop pending.
Can not restart it, have to restart the server.
Imail 8.15 with fix
Declude 1.81
Fprot 3.16b
Windows 2003 Server Standard with Sp1.
Suggestions please
cott_powner wrote:
Sorry about not getting back to anyone – some malcontent set up a
winmx server in my network! Anyway the bottom line right now is:
Declude 1.81 - No problems for about a million years
Declude 2.0.6 - Imail crashes for two days
Reinstalled Declude 1.81 - No crashes for 1 day
Installed SP1 with Declude 1.81 - No crashes for ½ day but it seems
to run slower
Any thoughts – we are going to let SP1 run through the night. If it
still seems slow to access mail we will remove SP1 in the A.M.
Thanks,
Scott Powner
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Colbeck,
Andrew
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:19 PM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Nothing about the service that SP1 installs, but I did I find
multiple pages on Microsoft's site about "Application and User
Experience", which seems to be their quality and regresssion testing.
They indicate that 3rd party vendors should follow:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx
and
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/appsupp.mspx
this application testing in order to verify that their applications
work correctly with their OS. There is also a page that lists
120-plus applications that this "Application and User Experience"
team tested with Windows Server 2003 SP1, and produced results
(including their own software):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896367
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Matt
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:34 AM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features
that I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the
"Application Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)". It seems like both might represent overhead to
things like Declude which are called from a command line along
with all of the applications that it calls, and it might not be
wise to run them in such an environment. I haven't tried turning
them off yet, but I was just starting the process of researching
them. The "Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned
off in Services, and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is
controlled by the boot.ini. I can't find hardly any information on
the "Application Experience Lookup Service", but "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about it:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352
There is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may
not cause issues with .NET stuff. I don't know.
I haven't tried upping from Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply
SP1 and make sure that it was workable before introducing
something else that was new to the environment.
Matt
Erik wrote:
I'll add our point too. We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also SP1
installed). We've put back 1.82 into production. No issues.
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
*scott_powner
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:35
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
We are crashing like crazy today, quemanager status goes to stop pending.
Can not restart it, have to restart the server.
Imail 8.15 with fix
Declude 1.81
Fprot 3.16b
Windows 2003 Server Standard with Sp1.
Suggestions please
cott_powner wrote:
Sorry about not getting back to anyone – some malcontent set up a
winmx server in my network! Anyway the bottom line right now is:
Declude 1.81 - No problems for about a million years
Declude 2.0.6 - Imail crashes for two days
Reinstalled Declude 1.81 - No crashes for 1 day
Installed SP1 with Declude 1.81 - No crashes for ½ day but it seems to
run slower
Any thoughts – we are going to let SP1 run through the night. If it
still seems slow to access mail we will remove SP1 in the A.M.
Thanks,
Scott Powner
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Colbeck, Andrew
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:19 PM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Nothing about the service that SP1 installs, but I did I find multiple
pages on Microsoft's site about "Application and User Experience",
which seems to be their quality and regresssion testing. They indicate
that 3rd party vendors should follow:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx
and
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/appsupp.mspx
this application testing in order to verify that their applications
work correctly with their OS. There is also a page that lists 120-plus
applications that this "Application and User Experience" team tested
with Windows Server 2003 SP1, and produced results (including their
own software):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896367
Andrew 8)
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Matt
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:34 AM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
*Subject:* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features
that I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the
"Application Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)". It seems like both might represent overhead to
things like Declude which are called from a command line along
with all of the applications that it calls, and it might not be
wise to run them in such an environment. I haven't tried turning
them off yet, but I was just starting the process of researching
them. The "Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned
off in Services, and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is
controlled by the boot.ini. I can't find hardly any information on
the "Application Experience Lookup Service", but "Data Execution
Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about it:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352
There is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may
not cause issues with .NET stuff. I don't know.
I haven't tried upping from Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply
SP1 and make sure that it was workable before introducing
something else that was new to the environment.
Matt
Erik wrote:
I'll add our point too. We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also SP1
installed). We've put back 1.82 into production. No issues.
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
*scott_powner
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:35 PM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
<mailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
*Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude
2.0.6
We just put SP1 on this morning but have not had a crash since
we went back to 1.81 on Declude.
Thanks,
Scott
-Original Message-
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
*Gufler Markus
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:31 AM
*To:* Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
<mailto:Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
*Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude
2.0.6
I haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems
with imail since installed win2003 SP1
Haven't seen any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100%
sure at the moment. I will report it later this week.
Markus
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of
*scott_powner
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message Sorry about not getting back to anyone – some malcontent set up a winmx server in my network! Anyway the bottom line right now is: Declude 1.81 - No problems for about a million years Declude 2.0.6 - Imail crashes for two days Reinstalled Declude 1.81 - No crashes for 1 day Installed SP1 with Declude 1.81 - No crashes for ½ day but it seems to run slower Any thoughts – we are going to let SP1 run through the night. If it still seems slow to access mail we will remove SP1 in the A.M. Thanks, Scott Powner -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 2:19 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 Nothing about the service that SP1 installs, but I did I find multiple pages on Microsoft's site about "Application and User Experience", which seems to be their quality and regresssion testing. They indicate that 3rd party vendors should follow: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx and http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/appsupp.mspx this application testing in order to verify that their applications work correctly with their OS. There is also a page that lists 120-plus applications that this "Application and User Experience" team tested with Windows Server 2003 SP1, and produced results (including their own software): http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896367 Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:34 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features that I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the "Application Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)". It seems like both might represent overhead to things like Declude which are called from a command line along with all of the applications that it calls, and it might not be wise to run them in such an environment. I haven't tried turning them off yet, but I was just starting the process of researching them. The "Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned off in Services, and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is controlled by the boot.ini. I can't find hardly any information on the "Application Experience Lookup Service", but "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352 There is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may not cause issues with .NET stuff. I don't know. I haven't tried upping from Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply SP1 and make sure that it was workable before introducing something else that was new to the environment. Matt Erik wrote: I'll add our point too. We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also SP1 installed). We've put back 1.82 into production. No issues. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of scott_powner Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:35 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 We just put SP1 on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81 on Declude. Thanks, Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gufler Markus Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 I haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since installed win2003 SP1 Haven't seen any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I will report it later this week. Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of scott_powner Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 Last Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On Friday after the install Imail web messaging crashed several times. We let the problem go until Monday. On Monday the problems got worse with numerous crashes of web messaging. I finally recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for 2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6? Do I need to reconfigure something? Win2003 on a xeon processor with 2gb mem
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message
Nothing about the service that SP1 installs, but I did I find multiple
pages on Microsoft's site about "Application and User Experience", which seems
to be their quality and regresssion testing. They indicate that 3rd party
vendors should follow:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/appcompatibility/default.mspx
and
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/partners/isvs/appsupp.mspx
this
application testing in order to verify that their applications work correctly
with their OS. There is also a page that lists 120-plus applications that
this "Application and User Experience" team tested with Windows Server 2003 SP1,
and produced results (including their own software):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896367
Andrew
8)
-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of MattSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:34
AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re:
[Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6I
don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features that I don't
understand and I fear to some extent are the "Application Experience Lookup
Service" and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)". It seems like both might
represent overhead to things like Declude which are called from a command line
along with all of the applications that it calls, and it might not be wise to
run them in such an environment. I haven't tried turning them off yet,
but I was just starting the process of researching them. The
"Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned off in Services, and
"Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is controlled by the boot.ini. I can't
find hardly any information on the "Application Experience Lookup Service",
but "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about
it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352There
is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may not cause issues
with .NET stuff. I don't know.I haven't tried upping from
Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply SP1 and make sure that it was workable
before introducing something else that was new to the
environment.MattErik wrote:
I'll add our point too. We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also
SP1 installed). We've put back 1.82 into production. No
issues.
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of scott_pownerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005
4:35 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject:
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude
2.0.6
We just put SP1
on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81 on
Declude.
Thanks,
Scott
-Original
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Gufler
MarkusSent:
Tuesday,
April 19, 2005
8:31
AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail
crashes after declude 2.0.6
I
haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since
installed win2003 SP1
Haven't seen any
crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I
will report it later this week.
Markus
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of
scott_pownerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48
PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail
crashes after declude 2.0.6
Last
Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We
use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On Friday
after the install Imail web messaging crashed several
times. We let the problem go until
Monday. On Monday the problems got worse with
numerous crashes of web messaging. I finally
recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for
2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6?
Do I need to reconfigure something? Win2003
on a xeon processor with 2gb memory.
Thank
you,
Scott
Powner
MIU4
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message
DEP can be configured under Control panel > system >
advanced > performance
select the new third tab.
It's my new top for "idiotic placements in a GUI
configuration"
Markus
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
MattSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 5:34 PMTo:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail
crashes after declude 2.0.6
I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features
that I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the "Application
Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)". It
seems like both might represent overhead to things like Declude which are
called from a command line along with all of the applications that it calls,
and it might not be wise to run them in such an environment. I haven't
tried turning them off yet, but I was just starting the process of researching
them. The "Application Experience Lookup Service" can be turned off in
Services, and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" is controlled by the
boot.ini. I can't find hardly any information on the "Application
Experience Lookup Service", but "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)" has a KB
article about it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352There
is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may not cause issues
with .NET stuff. I don't know.I haven't tried upping from
Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply SP1 and make sure that it was workable
before introducing something else that was new to the
environment.MattErik wrote:
I'll add our point too. We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also
SP1 installed). We've put back 1.82 into production. No
issues.
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Behalf Of scott_pownerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005
4:35 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject:
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude
2.0.6
We just put SP1
on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81 on
Declude.
Thanks,
Scott
-Original
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On Behalf Of Gufler
MarkusSent:
Tuesday,
April 19, 2005
8:31
AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail
crashes after declude 2.0.6
I
haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since
installed win2003 SP1
Haven't seen any
crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I
will report it later this week.
Markus
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Behalf Of
scott_pownerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48
PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail
crashes after declude 2.0.6
Last
Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We
use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On Friday
after the install Imail web messaging crashed several
times. We let the problem go until
Monday. On Monday the problems got worse with
numerous crashes of web messaging. I finally
recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for
2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6?
Do I need to reconfigure something? Win2003
on a xeon processor with 2gb memory.
Thank
you,
Scott
Powner
MIU4
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message
I don't know if this is of any help here, but two new SP1 features that
I don't understand and I fear to some extent are the "Application
Experience Lookup Service" and "Data Execution Prevention (DEP)". It
seems like both might represent overhead to things like Declude which
are called from a command line along with all of the applications that
it calls, and it might not be wise to run them in such an environment.
I haven't tried turning them off yet, but I was just starting the
process of researching them. The "Application Experience Lookup
Service" can be turned off in Services, and "Data Execution Prevention
(DEP)" is controlled by the boot.ini. I can't find hardly any
information on the "Application Experience Lookup Service", but "Data
Execution Prevention (DEP)" has a KB article about it:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875352
There is also another level of DCOM security, and this may or may not
cause issues with .NET stuff. I don't know.
I haven't tried upping from Declude 1.82 yet as I wanted to apply SP1
and make sure that it was workable before introducing something else
that was new to the environment.
Matt
Erik wrote:
I'll add our point too. We also are crashing
with 2.0.6 (also SP1 installed). We've put back 1.82 into production.
No issues.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of scott_powner
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:35 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude
2.0.6
We just put
SP1 on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81
on Declude.
Thanks,
Scott
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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gufler Markus
Sent: Tuesday,
April 19, 2005 8:31
AM
To:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE:
[Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
I haven't
upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since
installed win2003 SP1
Haven't seen
any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I
will report it later this week.
Markus
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of scott_powner
Sent: Tuesday,
April 19, 2005 1:48 PM
To:
Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject:
[Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Last
Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We
use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On
Friday after the install Imail web messaging crashed several times. We let the problem go until Monday.
On Monday the problems got worse with numerous crashes
of web messaging. I finally recopied 1.81 and
have been crash free for
2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6? Do I need to reconfigure something?
Win2003 on a xeon processor with 2gb memory.
Thank
you,
Scott
Powner
MIU4
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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message iwegmsg has big stability issues, especially when the server is under heavy load. I noted an increase in CPU utilization after going to SP1, but I'm leaning towards that being related to volume and not the SP at the moment. iwebmsg is so unstable that you can crash any server by having a mail box with a lot of messages in it and continually clicking on messages until iwebmsg gets clogged and gives up. You might try stopping the IMail Monitor service because there have been some indications in the past that it might try restarting services that aren't hung, but are non-responsive for a moment, and the restart of a non-responsive service can cause it to crash. Since Windows 2003 has service monitoring built in, you can probably just rely on that and maybe get some more stability. Switching to a different Declude EXE shouldn't affect iwebmsg unless there is something in it that is causing you to experience more CPU load, and it would still be IMail's/iwebmsg's fault if it crashed. Matt scott_powner wrote: We just put SP1 on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81 on Declude. Thanks, Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gufler Markus Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 I haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since installed win2003 SP1 Haven't seen any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I will report it later this week. Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of scott_powner Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 Last Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On Friday after the install Imail web messaging crashed several times. We let the problem go until Monday. On Monday the problems got worse with numerous crashes of web messaging. I finally recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for 2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6? Do I need to reconfigure something? Win2003 on a xeon processor with 2gb memory. Thank you, Scott Powner MIU4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message I'll add our point too. We also are crashing with 2.0.6 (also SP1 installed). We've put back 1.82 into production. No issues. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scott_pownerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 4:35 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 We just put SP1 on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81 on Declude. Thanks, Scott -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gufler MarkusSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:31 AMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 I haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since installed win2003 SP1 Haven't seen any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I will report it later this week. Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scott_pownerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 Last Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On Friday after the install Imail web messaging crashed several times. We let the problem go until Monday. On Monday the problems got worse with numerous crashes of web messaging. I finally recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for 2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6? Do I need to reconfigure something? Win2003 on a xeon processor with 2gb memory. Thank you, Scott Powner MIU4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message We just put SP1 on this morning but have not had a crash since we went back to 1.81 on Declude. Thanks, Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gufler Markus Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 8:31 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 I haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since installed win2003 SP1 Haven't seen any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I will report it later this week. Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scott_powner Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48 PM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 Last Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On Friday after the install Imail web messaging crashed several times. We let the problem go until Monday. On Monday the problems got worse with numerous crashes of web messaging. I finally recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for 2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6? Do I need to reconfigure something? Win2003 on a xeon processor with 2gb memory. Thank you, Scott Powner MIU4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6
Title: Message I haven't upgraded jet to v2 but can see the same problems with imail since installed win2003 SP1 Haven't seen any crash since removing SP1 but this is not 100% sure at the moment. I will report it later this week. Markus From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scott_pownerSent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 1:48 PMTo: Declude.JunkMail@declude.comSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail crashes after declude 2.0.6 Last Friday I finally upgraded from 1.81 to 2.0.6. We use Declude Pro Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus. On Friday after the install Imail web messaging crashed several times. We let the problem go until Monday. On Monday the problems got worse with numerous crashes of web messaging. I finally recopied 1.81 and have been crash free for 2 hours. What is going on with 2.0.6? Do I need to reconfigure something? Win2003 on a xeon processor with 2gb memory. Thank you, Scott Powner MIU4 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
