RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Note, if this is related to Hijack, there either there is a new bug in Hijack or there is a misconfiguration somewhere, as Hijack only checks outbound messages. NOTE: If you are doing gateway service rather than using aliases, you can be caught by this. Another reason that gateway service (Store and Forward) is no longer a recommended practice. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:38 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the message before Declude kills it. Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Pagillo Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
We've had Hijack shut-down for about 24 hours and we are still seeing mail delivery with scores well over our hold weight. Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:37:38 AM, IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ISEKD I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable ISEKD Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I ISEKD can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the ISEKD message before Declude kills it. ISEKD Karl Drugge ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD -Original Message- ISEKD From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ISEKD Linda Pagillo ISEKD Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM ISEKD To: declude.junkmail@declude.com ISEKD Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered ISEKD Don: ISEKD We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering ISEKD department. ISEKD Linda Pagillo ISEKD Technical Support Engineer ISEKD Declude - Your Email security is our businessT ISEKD - Original Message - ISEKD From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISEKD To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com ISEKD Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM ISEKD Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD --- ISEKD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found ISEKD at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD --- ISEKD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found ISEKD at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Turning-off Hijack had no affect. The issue continued. Are you referring to the Forward field, just below the reply-to field of the User's record in Imail? Are you saying that using that field, (instead of setting up an Alias record, instead) will somehow let mail through, when it is over the hold weight? Thanks, Saturday, July 15, 2006, 12:57:30 AM, John T (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JTL Note, if this is related to Hijack, there either there is a new bug in JTL Hijack or there is a misconfiguration somewhere, as Hijack only checks JTL outbound messages. NOTE: If you are doing gateway service rather than using JTL aliases, you can be caught by this. Another reason that gateway service JTL (Store and Forward) is no longer a recommended practice. JTL John T JTL eServices For You JTL Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 6:38 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the message before Declude kills it. Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Pagillo Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. JTL --- JTL This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To JTL unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and JTL type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found JTL at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
We've had Hijack shut-down for about 24 hours and we are still seeing mail delivery with scores well over our hold weight. Time to put the JunkMail log into DEBUG mode, run it until you know the problem has occurred, put it back into what ever log mode you desire, then copy out all the lines for a message in question. Feel free to post those lines here or send it off list if you want. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Turning-off Hijack had no affect. The issue continued. OK, as I suspected, the issue has nothing to do with Hijack. Are you referring to the Forward field, just below the reply-to field of the User's record in Imail? Are you saying that using that field, (instead of setting up an Alias record, instead) will somehow let mail through, when it is over the hold weight? No, what I was referring to is called Store and Forward service or Gateway service where the domain involved is no where to be found in Imail, but the domain is listed in the HOSTS file and Imail relays for the IP of the gatewayed server. Something entirely different from what is going on here. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the message before Declude kills it. Karl Drugge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Pagillo Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered Don: We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering department. Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer Declude - Your Email security is our businessT - Original Message - From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered
Thanks good to know, but I think it started before we began running HiJack. I'll disable hijack, though. Friday, July 14, 2006, 8:37:38 AM, IS - Systems Eng. (Karl Drugge) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ISEKD I've been seeing it too. I finally tracked it down to Hi-Jack. Disable ISEKD Hi-Jack, and you should be good ( I just renamed the config file, so I ISEKD can restart it as soon as this is fixed ). Somehow, Hi-jack grabs the ISEKD message before Declude kills it. ISEKD Karl Drugge ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD ISEKD -Original Message- ISEKD From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ISEKD Linda Pagillo ISEKD Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 8:34 AM ISEKD To: declude.junkmail@declude.com ISEKD Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered ISEKD Don: ISEKD We are aware of this issue and it has been escalated to our engineering ISEKD department. ISEKD Linda Pagillo ISEKD Technical Support Engineer ISEKD Declude - Your Email security is our businessT ISEKD - Original Message - ISEKD From: Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] ISEKD To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com ISEKD Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 5:09 AM ISEKD Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Over Hold Weight, but Delivered We have been seeing mail being delivered, when it has scored higher than our hold weight. The common denominator with these messages seems to be that it is addressed to multiple recipients. These recipients are sometimes of the same domain and other times of different domains. We are running the latest 4.xx release with Imail 8.xx, but this behavior isn't new to this release. We've noticed it for the last few releases, although I'm not sure which release marked the start of it. Has anyone else been seeing this behavior or are we just lucky? Thanks, Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD --- ISEKD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found ISEKD at http://www.mail-archive.com. ISEKD --- ISEKD This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To ISEKD unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and ISEKD type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found ISEKD at http://www.mail-archive.com. Don Brown - Dallas, Texas USA Internet Concepts, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetconcepts.net (972) 788-2364Fax: (972) 788-5049 --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
