RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

2002-11-28 Thread Jim Rooth
You might try adding a value to the myfilter.txt
MYFILTER filter c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x 5 0
It might think that the value of zero is telling it to bypass
myfilter.txt


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David
Lewis-Waller
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 07:42
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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

Any help appreciated...

I have in my global.cfg file the line

MYFILTER filter c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x 0 0

myfilter.txt has the following lines

MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @talk21.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @passport.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @economist.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .ft.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .bbc.co.uk

I hold email on a weight of 30.

I have a test account with talk21.com which normally fails a number of
tests resulting in a total weight of 33. I would have expected the
weight to drop to 23 because of myfilter.txt but it doesn't. I tried
silly numbers as well e.g. -60 but still end up with a total weight o
33. I'm obviously missing something fundamental.

Sent email headers:

Received: from wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com [194.73.242.6] by
mail.nthost.co.uk with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id ACAC128E00CC; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:56 +
Received: from wmpmtavirtual ([10.216.84.18])
  by wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com with SMTP
  id
20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:55 +
Received: from 62.189.235.109 by t21web08-lrs ([10.216.84.18]); Thu, 28
Nov 02 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
X-Mailer: talk21 v1.26 - http://talk21.btopenworld.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Talk21Ref: none
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: SPAM: (No Subject)
Message-Id:
20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting postmaster@domain
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail
client [804f].
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a mail server
194.73.242.6 with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 4.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 33 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.73.242.6]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail for evidence of
spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([194.73.242.6]).

Thanks in advance.

David




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: 28 November 2002 08:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 usage


I have John.  While Base64 is a great test, a number of newsletters and
normal emails have come across using it.  I have weakened my system to
let these types of messages through and pull my hair out every time a
spam gets through because of it.

Dan


On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:02, John Tolmachoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even thought it has been determined that there is no legit REASON to
use BASE64 encoding in the body, I am finding and increasing use of it.

Most of these are junk, but it has caught a number of legit messages.

Therefore, I have downgraded BASE64 from 15 to 12.

Any one experiencing similar?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

2002-11-28 Thread George Kulman
David,

You'll also have to put a line in your $default$.junkmail (and
GLOBAL.CFG for outgoing) if you want to see the test result in the
headers.

George

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David
Lewis-Waller
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work


Any help appreciated...

I have in my global.cfg file the line

MYFILTER filter c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x 0 0

myfilter.txt has the following lines

MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @talk21.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @passport.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @economist.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .ft.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .bbc.co.uk

I hold email on a weight of 30.

I have a test account with talk21.com which normally fails a number of
tests resulting in a total weight of 33. I would have expected the
weight to drop to 23 because of myfilter.txt but it doesn't. I tried
silly numbers as well e.g. -60 but still end up with a total weight o
33. I'm obviously missing something fundamental.

Sent email headers:

Received: from wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com [194.73.242.6] by
mail.nthost.co.uk with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id ACAC128E00CC; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:56 +
Received: from wmpmtavirtual ([10.216.84.18])
  by wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com with SMTP
  id
20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:55 +
Received: from 62.189.235.109 by t21web08-lrs ([10.216.84.18]); Thu, 28
Nov 02 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
X-Mailer: talk21 v1.26 - http://talk21.btopenworld.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Talk21Ref: none
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: SPAM: (No Subject)
Message-Id:
20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting postmaster@domain
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail
client [804f].
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a mail server
194.73.242.6 with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 4.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 33 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.73.242.6]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail for evidence of
spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([194.73.242.6]).

Thanks in advance.

David




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: 28 November 2002 08:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 usage


I have John.  While Base64 is a great test, a number of newsletters and
normal emails have come across using it.  I have weakened my system to
let these types of messages through and pull my hair out every time a
spam gets through because of it.

Dan


On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:02, John Tolmachoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even thought it has been determined that there is no legit REASON to
use BASE64 encoding in the body, I am finding and increasing use of it.

Most of these are junk, but it has caught a number of legit messages.

Therefore, I have downgraded BASE64 from 15 to 12.

Any one experiencing similar?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

2002-11-28 Thread George Kulman
David,

It would have been nice if I mentioned that the line to be added is:

MYFILTERWARN

George

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David
Lewis-Waller
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work


Any help appreciated...

I have in my global.cfg file the line

MYFILTER filter c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x 0 0

myfilter.txt has the following lines

MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @talk21.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @passport.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS @economist.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .ft.com
MAILFROM -10 CONTAINS .bbc.co.uk

I hold email on a weight of 30.

I have a test account with talk21.com which normally fails a number of
tests resulting in a total weight of 33. I would have expected the
weight to drop to 23 because of myfilter.txt but it doesn't. I tried
silly numbers as well e.g. -60 but still end up with a total weight o
33. I'm obviously missing something fundamental.

Sent email headers:

Received: from wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com [194.73.242.6] by
mail.nthost.co.uk with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-7.13) id ACAC128E00CC; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:56 +
Received: from wmpmtavirtual ([10.216.84.18])
  by wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com with SMTP
  id
20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual
  for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:39:55 +
Received: from 62.189.235.109 by t21web08-lrs ([10.216.84.18]); Thu, 28
Nov 02 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
X-Mailer: talk21 v1.26 - http://talk21.btopenworld.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Talk21Ref: none
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 13:30:20 GMT+00:00
Subject: SPAM: (No Subject)
Message-Id:
20021128133955.RBKO6682.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual
X-RBL-Warning: NOPOSTMASTER: Not supporting postmaster@domain
X-RBL-Warning: BADHEADERS: This E-mail was sent from a broken mail
client [804f].
X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a mail server
194.73.242.6 with no reverse DNS entry.
X-RBL-Warning: SNIFFER: Message failed SNIFFER: 4.
X-RBL-Warning: WEIGHT10: Weight of 33 reaches or exceeds the limit of
10.
X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [194.73.242.6]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail for evidence of
spam.
X-Note: This E-mail was sent from [No Reverse DNS] ([194.73.242.6]).

Thanks in advance.

David




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dan Patnode
Sent: 28 November 2002 08:57
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BASE64 usage


I have John.  While Base64 is a great test, a number of newsletters and
normal emails have come across using it.  I have weakened my system to
let these types of messages through and pull my hair out every time a
spam gets through because of it.

Dan


On Wednesday, November 27, 2002 8:02, John Tolmachoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even thought it has been determined that there is no legit REASON to
use BASE64 encoding in the body, I am finding and increasing use of it.

Most of these are junk, but it has caught a number of legit messages.

Therefore, I have downgraded BASE64 from 15 to 12.

Any one experiencing similar?

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

2002-11-28 Thread David Lewis-Waller
I have added MYFILTER   WARN to $default$.junkmail.txt and removed the
double quotes around the text file leaving

MYFILTERfilter  c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x 0 0

In global.cfg

I'm sent a few more test emails and the MYFILTER test isn't appearing in
the headers

I am quite puzzled.

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: 28 November 2002 13:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work



I have in my global.cfg file the line

MYFILTER filter c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x 0 0

You'll need to remove the quotes.  If you do that, the filter should
work.
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Unable to get filter to work

2002-11-28 Thread Smart Business Lists
David,

Thursday, November 28, 2002 you wrote:
 I have added MYFILTER   WARN to $default$.junkmail.txt and removed the
 double quotes around the text file leaving
 MYFILTERfilter  c:\imail\declude\myfilter.txt x 0 0

  The format appears to be correct.

 I'm sent a few more test emails and the MYFILTER test isn't
 appearing in the headers
 I am quite puzzled.

  1) filters are available for PRO version of DECLUDE only -
 so that might be the problem
 
  2) check to see if the filter is being loaded -
 look in the declude log files - if it is not being loaded you'll
 see something like
 Could not load filter file c:\imail\declude\notthere.txt

  3) It the filter is being loaded then there could be something wrong
 with the filter rules - you may have to turn on DEBUG logging to
 see that -  common errors include misspelling and spaces

  4) Or the filter rule may not be working on your test message as you
 expect - so you'd need to check that -

Hth -


Terry Fritts




Terry Fritts

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