Re: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT SHS

2002-12-16 Thread Sheldon Koehler
> Hope that helps.

Thanks John!

Sheldon


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RE: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT SHS

2002-12-16 Thread John Tolmachoff
http://www.antichip.org/virusinfo/extensions.html
http://www.internetworking.ch/htme/security13.htm
http://www.f-secure.com/v-descs/stages.shtml
http://www.quickheal.com/stages.htm
http://www.geocities.com/floydian_99/inv2.html
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/vuln-dev/1999-q4/0122.html

Hope that helps.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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Subject: [Declude.Virus] BANEXT SHS

I have 2 people that are mad at me for blocking the SHS extension. Are there
any web pages from anti virus companies or some such "Authority" that I can
send them on why I am blocking it?

They say they are sending a Christmas card.

Sheldon


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[Declude.Virus] BANEXT SHS

2002-12-16 Thread Sheldon Koehler
I have 2 people that are mad at me for blocking the SHS extension. Are there
any web pages from anti virus companies or some such "Authority" that I can
send them on why I am blocking it?

They say they are sending a Christmas card.

Sheldon


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Ten Forward Communications   360-457-9023
Nationwide access, neighborhood support!

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time
to pause and reflect." Mark Twain




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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to explain the [Partial Vulnerability] virus to a user.

2002-12-16 Thread Steven Copeland
Thanks for the explanation Scott and John.

Steven

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] How to explain the [Partial Vulnerability]
> virus to a user.
>
>
>
> >How do you explain the [Partial Vulnerability] virus to a user?
>
> Something like "Back in the old days, E-mails were limited to 50K
> each, and
> large files had to be broken down among several smaller E-mails.
> For year
> now, however, E-mails haven't been limited to a specific size, and so
> people rarely ever split up E-mails anymore.  Recently, it was discovered
> that splitting up E-mails would bypass many virus scanners, so it is now
> recommended practice for mailservers to block any E-mails that have been
> split up in this way."
>
> >How do they fix it?
>
> They need to set their mail client not to split up outgoing
> E-mails.  They
> almost certainly at some point saw a checkbox in their mail
> client settings
> and said "Gee, let me check this!"; that's the one they need to uncheck.
>
> >   I believe it comes from having this setting turned on in my config?
> >
> >BANCRVIRUSESON
>
> Correct.  It is STRONGLY recommended to keep that at its default
> setting of
> ON; otherwise, future viruses WILL get through your server.
>  -Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Order of operations

2002-12-16 Thread R. Scott Perry


I got this today and have a question.
- Declude Virus v1.65 caught the [Outlook 'MIME Header' Vulnerability] 
virus in CLEAR.pif from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to:

Does Declude check for the vulnerabilities and if one is found that's 
it?  No virus check?

It checks for both vulnerabilities and viruses and about the same time, but 
will always give priority to viruses that are detected.  In this case, the 
virus was not detected as a virus.

Have you checked the log file to see if it reports anything unusual about 
this E-mail?  Have you checked recently to see if the eicar.com file gets 
caught when sent from our Test Mail Sender at http://www.declude.com/tools ?
   -Scott

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[Declude.Virus] Order of operations

2002-12-16 Thread Dan Shadix
I got this today and have a question.
- Declude Virus v1.65 caught the [Outlook 'MIME Header' Vulnerability] virus in 
CLEAR.pif from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to:  

Does Declude check for the vulnerabilities and if one is found that's it?  No virus 
check?

Dan
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RE: [Declude.Virus] How to explain the [Partial Vulnerability] virus to a user.

2002-12-16 Thread John Tolmachoff
> Below is a copy of the postmaster e-mail this domain is getting.  Any help
in explaining this would be appreciated.

I am sure Scott will respond, but until he does, what is happening is the
user is send an e-mail with an attachment using Outlook Express that is too
large. Outlook Express is breaking it up into a number of messages so that
it can be sent.

The problem with this is that a virus could hide an not be detected.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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Re: [Declude.Virus] How to explain the [Partial Vulnerability]virus to a user.

2002-12-16 Thread R. Scott Perry


How do you explain the [Partial Vulnerability] virus to a user?


Something like "Back in the old days, E-mails were limited to 50K each, and 
large files had to be broken down among several smaller E-mails.  For year 
now, however, E-mails haven't been limited to a specific size, and so 
people rarely ever split up E-mails anymore.  Recently, it was discovered 
that splitting up E-mails would bypass many virus scanners, so it is now 
recommended practice for mailservers to block any E-mails that have been 
split up in this way."

How do they fix it?


They need to set their mail client not to split up outgoing E-mails.  They 
almost certainly at some point saw a checkbox in their mail client settings 
and said "Gee, let me check this!"; that's the one they need to uncheck.

  I believe it comes from having this setting turned on in my config?

BANCRVIRUSESON


Correct.  It is STRONGLY recommended to keep that at its default setting of 
ON; otherwise, future viruses WILL get through your server.
-Scott

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[Declude.Virus] How to explain the [Partial Vulnerability] virus to a user.

2002-12-16 Thread Steven Copeland
How do you explain the [Partial Vulnerability] virus to a user?  How do they
fix it?  I believe it comes from having this setting turned on in my config?
#
# The BANCRVIRUSES option will automatically treat E-mail with malformed
headers that could
# contain a virus as if they did contain a virus.  It is strongly
recommended that you keep
# this set to ON; otherwise, viruses could slip through.
#

BANCRVIRUSESON

Below is a copy of the postmaster e-mail this domain is getting.  Any help
in explaining this would be appreciated.

Steven

- Original Message -
From: "Postmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: Your mail server sent us a virus


>
> The E-mail Virus detection system on bps.k12.ok.us detected the
> [Partial Vulnerability] virus that appears to have come from your mail
server.
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> Subject:  "Fw:  HAPPY 2003 Happy 2003.pps [02/15]".
> The [Partial Vulnerability] was sent in the attachment Unknown File.
>
> The Message-ID was:
> <001d01c2a218$0ac20f00$0e0afa0a@tpatrick>.
>
> Remote IP:  64.250.195.9
>
> Original Header information is provided below:
> -START E-MAIL HEADERS-
> Received: from tpatrick [64.250.195.9] by schoolnet.pldi.net
>   (SMTPD32-7.13) id A97F3D600E4; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:54:39 -0600
> Message-ID: <001d01c2a218$0ac20f00$0e0afa0a@tpatrick>
> Reply-To: "Tiffani Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "Tiffani Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Andrea Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Fw:  HAPPY 2003 Happy 2003.pps [02/15]
> Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 13:52:44 -0600
> Organization: Bethany Public Schools
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: message/partial;
> total=15;
> id="01C2A218.0A44EFC0@tpatrick";
> number=2
> X-Priority: 3
> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
> -END E-MAIL HEADERS-
>



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Re: [Declude.Virus] Scanning Process

2002-12-16 Thread R. Scott Perry


We are testing two virus scanners with Declude Pro and wanted to confirm 
or thoughts.  Is it true that the scanners scan the file first, whether 
you have one, two, or five and then once done, the action on the virus is 
taken (i.e. quarantined)?

That is correct.  Declude Virus Pro will check the attachments against all 
the virus scanners that you have configured, and if any of them report that 
a virus was detected, Declude Virus will quarantine the E-mail.
   -Scott

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[Declude.Virus] Scanning Process

2002-12-16 Thread Keith Johnson
Title: Scanning Process






We are testing two virus scanners with Declude Pro and wanted to confirm or thoughts.  Is it true that the scanners scan the file first, whether you have one, two, or five and then once done, the action on the virus is taken (i.e. quarantined)?  

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