[Declude.Virus] Per user settings for banned files

2004-03-16 Thread Rick Davidson
I saw some talk in the archives about this but since the virus writers have
forced a tighter file banning policys because of zip files are there any
plans to add support for more granular control over banned files on a per
user basis?

For example we need loan documents sent as exe files allowed through to
specific users, zipping the files was the standard practice up until the
past few weeks. It is great being able to ban files inside of zips to stop
the movies and audio files from slipping through but now this cuases
problems for the media and advertising people.

So while we got an excellent new feature it created the need to allow
bypassing on a per user basis.

Whats our chances of seeing something like this?

Rick Davidson
National Systems Manager
North American Title Company
440-953-9346 - Office
440-953-0925 - Fax
440-487-7344 - Mobile
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Per user settings for banned files

2004-03-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

I saw some talk in the archives about this but since the virus writers have
forced a tighter file banning policys because of zip files are there any
plans to add support for more granular control over banned files on a per
user basis?
We are investigating the idea.  It would likely require quite a bit of 
work, however.

For example we need loan documents sent as exe files allowed through to
specific users, zipping the files was the standard practice up until the
past few weeks. It is great being able to ban files inside of zips to stop
the movies and audio files from slipping through but now this cuases
problems for the media and advertising people.
So while we got an excellent new feature it created the need to allow
bypassing on a per user basis.
Whats our chances of seeing something like this?
My guess is that it won't be happening in the near future.

However, it's important to remember that once a virus scanner has updated 
its virus definitions to include a new virus, any .ZIP files with .EXE's 
within them *will* get caught.  So blocking .EXE's within .ZIP files is 
only necessary to be protected against new viruses until new definitions 
are available to detect them.

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[Declude.Virus] A different view of banned files

2004-03-16 Thread Dan Shadix
I would like to be able to reverse the logic of BANEXT and block all 
attachments except a small list of allowed ones.

ALLOWEXT doc
ALLOWEXT mdb
ALLOWEXT xls
ALLOWEXT pub
ALLOWEXT gif
ALLOWEXT jpg

That's all I can think of that I would allow, but if I noticed some being 
blocked I could easily add them.  This follows the normal security logic.

I also would like to be able to save the banned e-mails in a separate folder 
from the known viruses.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] A different view of banned files

2004-03-16 Thread marc catuogno
I think this has been brought up a few times, I think it would be a good
option as well once it is tweaked.

You forgot PDF, txt, bmp, wks, wpd, ppt  and maybe .zip : )

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Subject: [Declude.Virus] A different view of banned files

I would like to be able to reverse the logic of BANEXT and block all 
attachments except a small list of allowed ones.

ALLOWEXT doc
ALLOWEXT mdb
ALLOWEXT xls
ALLOWEXT pub
ALLOWEXT gif
ALLOWEXT jpg

That's all I can think of that I would allow, but if I noticed some being 
blocked I could easily add them.  This follows the normal security logic.

I also would like to be able to save the banned e-mails in a separate folder

from the known viruses.

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[Declude.Virus] New Bagle variant only McAfee picking up

2004-03-16 Thread bill.maillists
I'm running F-Prot, McAfee, and AVG. Only McAfee is picking this up. Has anyone else 
noticed this as well?

Declude Virus v1.78i25 caught the  the W32/Bagle.gen!pwdzip virus in Info.zip
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Re: [Declude.Virus] New Bagle variant only McAfee picking up

2004-03-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

I'm running F-Prot, McAfee, and AVG. Only McAfee is picking this up. Has 
anyone else noticed this as well?

Declude Virus v1.78i25 caught the  the W32/Bagle.gen!pwdzip virus in Info.zip
According to McAfee's website, that's Bagle.K (although I don't know why 
they don't simply identify it as Bagle.K).  As far as I know, that's always 
in an encrypted .ZIP file, which should be blocked with the latest interim 
( http://www.declude.com/interim ), and a BANEXT EZIP line in your 
\IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file.

My guess is that McAfee found that there are only a small amount of 
possible ways that the file is dynamically encrypted, which would let them 
catch some/most/all of them.

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[Declude.Virus] NAV 2003 catches passworded virus??

2004-03-16 Thread marc catuogno








Sorry, I know Ive brought this up
before but Im befuddled as to how plan old Norton Antivirus 2003 on my
XP desktop using outlook 2002 can pick up this virus within a passworded file
without the password.



This was held in the virus directory by Declude
and I released it to see if it would be caught, and it was - before it was
opened. 

Again, this isnt really important,
but Id like to know how it is happening. Any theories???



Marc



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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March
 16, 2004 2:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Document



Your file is attached.


Password - 

This was
the replacement attachment:

Norton AntiVirus
removed the attachment: Info.zip.

The
attachment was infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus.






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Re: [Declude.Virus] New Bagle variant only McAfee picking up

2004-03-16 Thread Scott Fisher
I'm testing Mcafee also. 
I've also seen it pickup the W32/Bagle.gen!pwdrar in rar files.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/16/04 03:48PM 
I'm running F-Prot, McAfee, and AVG. Only McAfee is picking this up. Has anyone else 
noticed this as well?

Declude Virus v1.78i25 caught the  the W32/Bagle.gen!pwdzip virus in Info.zip
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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

2004-03-16 Thread John Shacklett
I didn't have 3.14d loaded in production long enough to form an opinion, but
3.14e seems to be working perfectly. 

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Re: [Declude.Virus] NAV 2003 catches passworded virus??

2004-03-16 Thread R. Scott Perry

Sorry, I know I ve brought this up before but I m befuddled as to how plan 
old Norton Antivirus 2003 on my XP desktop using outlook 2002 can pick up 
this virus within a passworded file without the password.
Most likely, it was acting the way that anti-spam software does -- it 
detected something in the E-mail body, rather than the actual virus.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] New Bagle variant only McAfee picking up

2004-03-16 Thread bill.maillists
Scott,

Thanks for the information. I'm using BANEZIPEXTS and BANZIPEXTS in my configuration 
already with i25 and it is working well. I was curious why the other AV scanners 
weren't picking this variant up and which one it was. Now I know. I must have been 
catching these previously with great new BANEZIPEXTS and BANZIPEXTS feature of Declude.

Thanks for adding the RAR protection to Declude, by the way.

Bill

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I'm running F-Prot, McAfee, and AVG. Only McAfee is picking this up. Has 
anyone else noticed this as well?

Declude Virus v1.78i25 caught the  the W32/Bagle.gen!pwdzip virus in Info.zip

According to McAfee's website, that's Bagle.K (although I don't know why 
they don't simply identify it as Bagle.K).  As far as I know, that's always 
in an encrypted .ZIP file, which should be blocked with the latest interim 
( http://www.declude.com/interim ), and a BANEXT EZIP line in your 
\IMail\Declude\virus.cfg file.

My guess is that McAfee found that there are only a small amount of 
possible ways that the file is dynamically encrypted, which would let them 
catch some/most/all of them.

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[Declude.Virus] F-Prot 3.14E Catching Static Encrypted Zips

2004-03-16 Thread bill.maillists
I just upgraded to F-Prot 3.14E and noticed that it picked up the static-encrypted-zip 
eicar test virus as follows:

The Declude Anti-Virus software on g-m-i.net has reported that you were sent an E-mail 
from [EMAIL PROTECTED], containing the : EICAR_Test_File virus in the EICARENC.ZIP 
attachment.  

This must be one of the new features of the E version. McAfee and AVG aren't picking 
it up.

Bill

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Re: [Declude.Virus] NAV 2003 catches passworded virus??

2004-03-16 Thread Nick
On 16 Mar 2004 at 17:20, marc catuogno wrote:

Marc,

I do not have Norton so I cannot test it - have you sent to your desktop the
EicarDynamicEncodedZip from Scott's site? Results?
http://www.declude.com/tools/mailsend.html
From what I understand static zips are easy its the the dynamic zip/rars that are the
challenge

-Nick Hayer



 Sorry, I know I™ve brought this up before but I™m befuddled as to how plan old 
 Norton Antivirus
 2003 on my XP desktop using outlook 2002 can pick up this virus within a passworded 
 file without
 the password.

 This was held in the virus directory by Declude and I released it to see if it would 
 be caught, and it
 was - before it was opened.
 Again, this isn™t really important, but I™d like to know how it is happening. Any 
 theories???

 Marc

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Document

 Your file is attached.


 Password -
 This was the replacement attachment:
 Norton AntiVirus removed the attachment: Info.zip.
 The attachment was infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus.



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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

2004-03-16 Thread Douglas Cohn
Being new to Declude/F-prot I was testing an install.  Running W2K I updated
F-Prot from 3.14C to 3.14E and restarted everything without rebooting.
Seems to be working fine on my desktop.

Is this safe on my mail server as well?  I am not very comfortable rebooting
that often.

Thanks

DC 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

I didn't have 3.14d loaded in production long enough to form an opinion, but
3.14e seems to be working perfectly. 

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Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

Appears to be out today.


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RE: [Declude.Virus] NAV 2003 catches passworded virus??

2004-03-16 Thread marc catuogno
I just did and NAV didn't catch it but a quote from the e-mail is:

This E-mail contains the test eicar.com file in a dynamic encoded .ZIP
file.  It is expected that no AV program will block this E-mail due to the
eicar.com file in it.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:18 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] NAV 2003 catches passworded virus??

On 16 Mar 2004 at 17:20, marc catuogno wrote:

Marc,

I do not have Norton so I cannot test it - have you sent to your desktop the

EicarDynamicEncodedZip from Scott's site? Results?
http://www.declude.com/tools/mailsend.html
From what I understand static zips are easy its the the dynamic zip/rars
that are the 
challenge

-Nick Hayer
 

 
 Sorry, I know ITve brought this up before but ITm befuddled as to how plan
old Norton Antivirus 
 2003 on my XP desktop using outlook 2002 can pick up this virus within a
passworded file without 
 the password.
 
 This was held in the virus directory by Declude and I released it to see
if it would be caught, and it 
 was - before it was opened. 
 Again, this isnTt really important, but ITd like to know how it is
happening. Any theories???
 
 Marc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 2:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Document
 
 Your file is attached.
 
 
 Password - 
 This was the replacement attachment:
 Norton AntiVirus removed the attachment: Info.zip.
 The attachment was infected with the [EMAIL PROTECTED] virus.
 


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[Declude.Virus] Fpcmd command line switches (3.14e)

2004-03-16 Thread Fritz Squib
Has anyone tried the  -server Activate mail filter heuristics. switch
yet ?

Fritz

Frederick P. Squib, Jr.
Network Operations/Mail Administrator
Citizens Telephone Company of Kecksburg
http://www.wpa.net

()  ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail 
/\- against microsoft attachments

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RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

2004-03-16 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
If you run W2K professional usually f-prot asks you to reboot after the
upgrade. Running W2K Server it shouldn't ask you for any reboot at all... at
least that has been my experience.

So.. you don't have to worry about rebooting.

Regards
Luis Arango

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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:38 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

Being new to Declude/F-prot I was testing an install.  Running W2K I updated
F-Prot from 3.14C to 3.14E and restarted everything without rebooting.
Seems to be working fine on my desktop.

Is this safe on my mail server as well?  I am not very comfortable rebooting
that often.

Thanks

DC 

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Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

I didn't have 3.14d loaded in production long enough to form an opinion, but
3.14e seems to be working perfectly. 

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Subject: [Declude.Virus] F-prot 3.14e

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Fprot 3.14d

2004-03-16 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
So far version 3.14d had no problems. Now I find my self looking at a new
version... 3.14e. jejeje.. I just installed and no problems at all.

I will let the list know if I find any trouble with version 3.14e.
Luis Arango

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Luis Alberto Arango
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I installed in the server. So far so good.. I will report again in 24 hours.
Regards
Luis Arango

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I just upgraded to fprot 3.14d; I had to add a new VIRUSCODE 8
and the REPORT string is now   -
or something is broke... ; however when I made these changes the errors in 
the logs
went away

The VIRUSCODE 8 is used by F-Prot when it doesn't detect a virus, but 
detects something suspicious.  This will often catch Word or Excel files 
that have macros in them.

-Scott
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[Declude.Virus] Question about virus log entries

2004-03-16 Thread Bill Landry
Scott, I am see a bunch on the following type entries in my virus logs:

Found potentially dangerous stuff in
M:\IMail\spool\Dc62d3de40042810d.vir\0.!
Found potentially dangerous stuff in
M:\IMail\spool\Dc800179a006ca25f.vir\0.htm!
Found potentially dangerous stuff in
M:\IMail\spool\Dc943102d00909026.vir\0.!

I see that these messages do get held, but rather get delivered.  However,
Declude is holding viruses.  Is this something I should be concerned about?

Bill

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