Re: [Declude.Virus] .CPL file blocked

2004-04-26 Thread Don Hickey
Here is Mcafee's response to the .CPL I have been receiving - Don

A.V.E.R.T. Sample Analysis
Issue Number: 677272
Virus Research Analyst - Hong Kong: V. Nguyen
Identified: W32/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

AVERT(tm) Labs, Hong Kong

Thank you for submitting your suspicious file.

Synopsis -


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Subject: [Declude.Virus] .CPL file blocked


Could be something new going on:

I've just blocked my first CPL file at 12:15 today.
.CPL is a Windows Control Pane lapplet extension.

This was undected by F-Prot, McAfee and AVG.
It has the ever-suspicious name of details.cpl

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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[Declude.Virus] unknown virus in unknown file

2004-04-26 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi,

As Declude *does* know the name of the file it is trying to decode, maybe it
could display that name, along with the fact it caught a vulnerability and
not an unknow virus? Shouldn't it have reported it found: The "EOF in
multipart processing" vulnerability virus in Webmaster_attach.pif
I'm also banning PIF files but vulnerabilities should take precedent over
banned extentions in reporting, right?

Here the log snippet from the declude log:
04/26/2004 20:44:16 Q588000ad02465470 MIME file:
[message/delivery-status][*DEFAULT*; Length=321 Checksum=28335]
04/26/2004 20:44:16 Q588000ad02465470 Warning: EOF in middle of MIME segment
[Webmaster_attach.pif] [--dcffafbdbccebfccbeec]
04/26/2004 20:44:16 Q588000ad02465470 Banning file with pif extension
[application/octet-stream].
04/26/2004 20:44:16 Q588000ad02465470 WARNING: EOF in multipart processing.
04/26/2004 20:44:16 Q588000ad02465470 WARNING: EOF in multipart processing.
04/26/2004 20:44:17 Q588000ad02465470 Invalid PIF Vulnerability
04/26/2004 20:44:17 Q588000ad02465470 Found a bogus .pif file
04/26/2004 20:44:17 Q588000ad02465470 File(s) are INFECTED [: 0]
04/26/2004 20:44:17 Q588000ad02465470 Scanned: CONTAINS A VIRUS [MIME: 4
37310]
04/26/2004 20:44:17 Q588000ad02465470 From: <> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[incoming from 192.87.5.144]
04/26/2004 20:44:17 Q588000ad02465470 Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to
Sender


Groetjes,

Bonno Bloksma
 Back up my hard drive? How do I put it in reverse?

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Subject: Declude Virus caught a virus


> Declude Virus v1.79i4 caught the Unknown Virus virus in Unknown File
> from <> to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Date:   04/26/2004 20:44:17
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> Spool File: D588000ad02465470.SMD
> Remote IP:  192.87.5.144
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>   (SMTPD32-8.05) id A880AD0246; Mon, 26 Apr 2004 20:44:16 +0200
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [Declude.Virus] unknown virus in unknown file

2004-04-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

As Declude *does* know the name of the file it is trying to decode, maybe it
could display that name, along with the fact it caught a vulnerability and
not an unknow virus?
It does display the actual name.
Shouldn't it have reported it found: The "EOF in
multipart processing" vulnerability virus in Webmaster_attach.pif
No.  That isn't a vulnerability -- that is just a harmless flaw with the 
E-mail.

The issue here is with the latest interim release, and has since been fixed.
   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Bound to happen

2004-04-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

How do we get to the manuals for DecludeSPAM and DecludeAntiVirus?
The new web site does not make it easy.
Nor did the old one.  :)
You can find them at http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm (Declude 
Virus) and http://www.declude.com/junkmail/manual.htm  (Declude JunkMail).

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Bound to happen

2004-04-26 Thread Jim Nitterauer
How do we get to the manuals for DecludeSPAM and DecludeAntiVirus?

The new web site does not make it easy.


Jim Nitterauer
President
Creative Data Concepts Limited, Inc.
3 W. Garden Street
Suite 326
Pensacola, FL 32502
http://www.creativedata.net
850-434-7645
800-607-6168

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>I just got a copy of the inevitable:
>An e-mail with the zip password placed in an image. Two files attached,
>the first file was a gif but the zip file was empty and not actually
>encrypted so it made it to my desktop mail client since it apparently
>wasn't a viable infected file.
>
>I assume this would have been stopped if BANEXT EZIP was used and it
>WAS actually encrypted?

That is correct.  Since the .ZIP file was empty, it sounds like the virus
was either removed by the previous SMTP server, or the virus didn't send
itself correctly.

-Scott
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Re: [Declude.Virus] .CPL file blocked

2004-04-26 Thread Don Hickey
I submitted one of these to Mcafee. I am seeing a lot more of these than the
new Bagle.

Don
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From: "Scott Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 12:52 PM
Subject: [Declude.Virus] .CPL file blocked


Could be something new going on:

I've just blocked my first CPL file at 12:15 today.
.CPL is a Windows Control Pane lapplet extension.

This was undected by F-Prot, McAfee and AVG.
It has the ever-suspicious name of details.cpl

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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[Declude.Virus] .CPL file blocked

2004-04-26 Thread Scott Fisher
Could be something new going on:

I've just blocked my first CPL file at 12:15 today.
.CPL is a Windows Control Pane lapplet extension.

This was undected by F-Prot, McAfee and AVG.
It has the ever-suspicious name of details.cpl

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Bound to happen

2004-04-26 Thread R. Scott Perry

I just got a copy of the inevitable:
An e-mail with the zip password placed in an image. Two files attached,
the first file was a gif but the zip file was empty and not actually
encrypted so it made it to my desktop mail client since it apparently
wasn't a viable infected file.
I assume this would have been stopped if BANEXT EZIP was used and it WAS
actually encrypted?
That is correct.  Since the .ZIP file was empty, it sounds like the virus 
was either removed by the previous SMTP server, or the virus didn't send 
itself correctly.

   -Scott
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[Declude.Virus] Bound to happen

2004-04-26 Thread John Olden
I just got a copy of the inevitable:
An e-mail with the zip password placed in an image. Two files attached,
the first file was a gif but the zip file was empty and not actually
encrypted so it made it to my desktop mail client since it apparently
wasn't a viable infected file.

I assume this would have been stopped if BANEXT EZIP was used and it WAS
actually encrypted?

John Olden - Systems Administrator
Champaign Park District

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Re: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread Dan Star
We use F-secure Anti-Virus Client Security along with F-Secure Policy 
Manger.  Centralized updates are automatic and alerts are sent to PM 
admin.  F-Secure Anti-Virus actually uses 3 scanning engines, one of 
which is F-Prot.

Dan
On 4/26/2004 10:27 AM, Jared Pickerell wrote:
We use Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition. It has worked great for us.
The corporate edition has no activation. I believe it is much better
suited for the business world than NAV 2004. You set up a SAV server
that controls the SAV client settings. (very nice central configuration
and management) Also, only the server has to download the updates, which
automatically pushes out the defs to the clients. I have schedule the
server to updated defs every couple of hours every day. You get updates
this way that you do not get by doing a LiveUpdate. I have been very
happy with it.  

Jared Pickerell
Co-Director/Network Admin
Highland Community College
606 W Main, Highland, KS 66035

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze -
Hostmaster
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion
Does NAV 2k4 have the product activation as well?
The reason I ask is that I did have Norton Internet Security (NIS) 2k4
installed on my work laptop.  Well, since it's a work laptop, I install,
de-install programs most of the time and as a result, every month or
two, I
backup and re-ghost the HDD from an image.  Just this weekend when I
tried
to activate the NIS I installed, I got the "Activated too many times"
error.
UGH!  I'm awaiting a response from Symantec and was just asking about
other
alternatives for the anti-virus side of things.  Looking at Zonelabs
Zonealarm for the software Firewall replacement..
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Fritts
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:59 AM
To: Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion
 

McAfee, Norton, or others?  Which do you think provides the quickest 
update
   

I used Norton for a long time on Windows 2k but when I moved to XP I
also
upgraded to Norton 2004. It seemed much more complex to me with a bunch
more
services (maybe my imagination). Regardless, I had constant problems
with it
and no help from Symantec.  Main problem was that after a reboot the AV
could not start.  Usually a 2nd reboot would fix but sometimes not.
Also,
my XP machine would sometimes just reboot itself for no apparent reason
and
I always "felt" it had something to do with Norton.  Don't know that -
could
just be XP.
Finally removed it and switched to McAfee on one workstation. So far I
think
I like it better and no problems on it starting and no reboots.
Only thing I do complain about it with McAfee is the download process
forces
use of Internet Explorer and the scanning configuration program needs
more
granularity.
On my XP notebook I'm using Kaspersky - it's kind of fun actually -
screams
if it finds something - a little too aggressive on non-virus
vulnerabilities
but probably something I can adjust out.
All seem to me about equally effective over time.  Also using Fprot and
ClamAV and have extremely good results with both.  Really with cost
consideration Fprot has to be one of my favorites.
Terry Fritts
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RE: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread Jared Pickerell
We use Symantec Antivirus Corporate Edition. It has worked great for us.
The corporate edition has no activation. I believe it is much better
suited for the business world than NAV 2004. You set up a SAV server
that controls the SAV client settings. (very nice central configuration
and management) Also, only the server has to download the updates, which
automatically pushes out the defs to the clients. I have schedule the
server to updated defs every couple of hours every day. You get updates
this way that you do not get by doing a LiveUpdate. I have been very
happy with it.  

Jared Pickerell
Co-Director/Network Admin
Highland Community College
606 W Main, Highland, KS 66035



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Maze -
Hostmaster
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

Does NAV 2k4 have the product activation as well?

The reason I ask is that I did have Norton Internet Security (NIS) 2k4
installed on my work laptop.  Well, since it's a work laptop, I install,
de-install programs most of the time and as a result, every month or
two, I
backup and re-ghost the HDD from an image.  Just this weekend when I
tried
to activate the NIS I installed, I got the "Activated too many times"
error.
UGH!  I'm awaiting a response from Symantec and was just asking about
other
alternatives for the anti-virus side of things.  Looking at Zonelabs
Zonealarm for the software Firewall replacement..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Fritts
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:59 AM
To: Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion


> McAfee, Norton, or others?  Which do you think provides the quickest 
> update

I used Norton for a long time on Windows 2k but when I moved to XP I
also
upgraded to Norton 2004. It seemed much more complex to me with a bunch
more
services (maybe my imagination). Regardless, I had constant problems
with it
and no help from Symantec.  Main problem was that after a reboot the AV
could not start.  Usually a 2nd reboot would fix but sometimes not.
Also,
my XP machine would sometimes just reboot itself for no apparent reason
and
I always "felt" it had something to do with Norton.  Don't know that -
could
just be XP.

Finally removed it and switched to McAfee on one workstation. So far I
think
I like it better and no problems on it starting and no reboots.
Only thing I do complain about it with McAfee is the download process
forces
use of Internet Explorer and the scanning configuration program needs
more
granularity.

On my XP notebook I'm using Kaspersky - it's kind of fun actually -
screams
if it finds something - a little too aggressive on non-virus
vulnerabilities
but probably something I can adjust out.

All seem to me about equally effective over time.  Also using Fprot and
ClamAV and have extremely good results with both.  Really with cost
consideration Fprot has to be one of my favorites.

Terry Fritts


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RE: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Does NAV 2k4 have the product activation as well?

The reason I ask is that I did have Norton Internet Security (NIS) 2k4
installed on my work laptop.  Well, since it's a work laptop, I install,
de-install programs most of the time and as a result, every month or two, I
backup and re-ghost the HDD from an image.  Just this weekend when I tried
to activate the NIS I installed, I got the "Activated too many times" error.
UGH!  I'm awaiting a response from Symantec and was just asking about other
alternatives for the anti-virus side of things.  Looking at Zonelabs
Zonealarm for the software Firewall replacement..

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Fritts
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:59 AM
To: Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion


> McAfee, Norton, or others?  Which do you think provides the quickest 
> update

I used Norton for a long time on Windows 2k but when I moved to XP I also
upgraded to Norton 2004. It seemed much more complex to me with a bunch more
services (maybe my imagination). Regardless, I had constant problems with it
and no help from Symantec.  Main problem was that after a reboot the AV
could not start.  Usually a 2nd reboot would fix but sometimes not.  Also,
my XP machine would sometimes just reboot itself for no apparent reason and
I always "felt" it had something to do with Norton.  Don't know that - could
just be XP.

Finally removed it and switched to McAfee on one workstation. So far I think
I like it better and no problems on it starting and no reboots.
Only thing I do complain about it with McAfee is the download process forces
use of Internet Explorer and the scanning configuration program needs more
granularity.

On my XP notebook I'm using Kaspersky - it's kind of fun actually - screams
if it finds something - a little too aggressive on non-virus vulnerabilities
but probably something I can adjust out.

All seem to me about equally effective over time.  Also using Fprot and
ClamAV and have extremely good results with both.  Really with cost
consideration Fprot has to be one of my favorites.

Terry Fritts


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RE: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread Charles Frolick
I personally use NOD32 on all of my desktops.  I have had TrendMicro
recommended by a Consultant friend who said he uses it to clean viruses from
systems protected by Norton and McAfee all the time.  He tells me he has
never had to go back and clean a system with TrendMicro on it, but
frequently does with the other two.  I am not fond of Norton or McAfee, they
are too expensive, too resource hungry, and too problem prone. As an ISP,
better than half of the email problems customers have can be resolved by
restarting the computer or reomving Norton or McAfee when their transparent
mail scanning proxy fails to behave.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net

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McAfee, Norton, or others?  Which do you think provides the quickest updates
and the best support..

Just was curious..


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Re: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread Terry Fritts

> McAfee, Norton, or others?  Which do you think provides the quickest update

I used Norton for a long time on Windows 2k but when I moved to XP I
also upgraded to Norton 2004. It seemed much more complex to me with a
bunch more services (maybe my imagination). Regardless, I had constant
problems with it and no help from Symantec.  Main problem was that
after a reboot the AV could not start.  Usually a 2nd reboot would fix
but sometimes not.  Also, my XP machine would sometimes just reboot
itself for no apparent reason and I always "felt" it had something to
do with Norton.  Don't know that - could just be XP.

Finally removed it and switched to McAfee on one workstation. So far I
think I like it better and no problems on it starting and no reboots.
Only thing I do complain about it with McAfee is the download process
forces use of Internet Explorer and the scanning configuration program
needs more granularity.

On my XP notebook I'm using Kaspersky - it's kind of fun actually -
screams if it finds something - a little too aggressive on non-virus
vulnerabilities but probably something I can adjust out.

All seem to me about equally effective over time.  Also using Fprot
and ClamAV and have extremely good results with both.  Really with
cost consideration Fprot has to be one of my favorites.

Terry Fritts


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RE: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread Douglas Cohn
We have also used Norton Corporate for at least 3 - 4 years now with no
problems.

I remember a few years back when we had a mess in our network (In 1999 fast
growing pains) and a dedicated customer installed Norton and we had
installed it for our shared.  We saw his Norton in the Server MMC Manager
screens and he saw ours.  What a Nightmare that was.

We had a /19 with no subnets.  One FLAT Network.  Fast but very sloppy and
full of nightmares.

DC 

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RE: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I use, sell and recommend Symantec AV Corporate Edition almost exclusively
for both client side and regular server side file scanning.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You

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Re: [Declude.Virus] [OT} Anti-Virus - Client Side Suggestion

2004-04-26 Thread Scott Fisher
If you are paranoid, choose a client side filter that you are not using to scan your 
e-mail. This would give you an added layer of protection. I believe Symantec has 
Symantec Anti-Virus Corporate Edition that does not include a SMTP scanning gateway, 
thus significantly lowering the cost.

Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

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