[Declude.Virus] Unknown Viruses?

2004-05-06 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi,

I am using F-Prot and it is working but I keep getting these
unidentified viruses.

Unknown Virus virus in the Unknown File attachment

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Thanx
 
 Goran Jovanovic
 The LAN Shoppe

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Feature Request: Deletion of banned files

2004-05-06 Thread Goran Jovanovic








John,



Does this script delete just the files
with the banned attachments or anything over 5 days old?



Are you willing to share the script?









Goran Jovanovic

 The LAN Shoppe















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:06
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus]
Feature Request: Deletion of banned files





I have a script that runs just after
midnight each day that in effect deletes those held after 5 days.





John Tolmachoff

Engineer/Consultant/Owner

eServices For You







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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 6:21
AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Declude.Virus] Feature
Request: Deletion of banned files





Hi Scott,











We seem to be spending more and more time deleting from the
virus hold queue files that have .PIF and .SCR extensions. We'd like to
request a little more granular control over banning of extensions...specifically,
a setting to go ahead a delete some of them.











For example, instead of











BANEXT PIF











perhaps we could use











DELEXT PIF











Obviously there are a number of other extensions we would
continue to ban, and check for legitimacy, but this would be helpful.











Thoughts?






Darin.
























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Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

2004-05-06 Thread System Administrator
on 4/30/04 12:41 PM, Jeffrey Di Gregorio wrote:

 Does anyone have a suggestion on what to do about the growing number of auto
 reply messages being received by clients because of the current amount of
 forging viruses.  I am getting daily complaints from clients who say they
 never sent anything to someone but are receiving multiple auto response
 messages (user unknown, mailbox full, virus warnings, etc.)  I am at a loss on
 what to do about this.

I was having the same problem as you and I came up with these filters that
seem to work for me.

UNKNOWNUSERF filter e:\imail\declude\unknownuserf.txt   x 0  0
BRACKETFLfilter e:\imail\declude\bracketfl.txt  x 0  0
BRACKETFRfilter e:\imail\declude\bracketfr.txt  x 0  0
ACSMAILF filter e:\imail\declude\acsmailf.txt   x 0  0
NEVERSENTF   filter e:\imail\declude\neversentf.txt x 0  0

unknownuserf - 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS unknown user
BODY 0 CONTAINS user unknown

bracketfl - returned messages should have the original headers so I'm
looking for the beginning of an IP address

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS [1
BODY 0 CONTAINS [2
BODY 0 CONTAINS [3
BODY 0 CONTAINS [4
BODY 0 CONTAINS [5
BODY 0 CONTAINS [6
BODY 0 CONTAINS [7
BODY 0 CONTAINS [8
BODY 0 CONTAINS [9

bracketfr - looking for the end of an IP address

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS 0]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 1]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 2]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 3]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 4]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 5]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 6]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 7]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 8]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 9]

acsmailf - contains the IP and name of my outgoing mail server (obviously
substitute yours), if the message contains one of these values it is
possible the message did originate here.

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS 12.4.184.4
BODY 0 CONTAINS mail.acsworld.com

neversentf - if the message was about an unknown user and had header
records, but they were not from my mail server, then it didn't come from my
mail server so we add 40 to the weight. We delete on 40 weight.

SKIPIFWEIGHT  50
TESTSFAILED  END CONTAINS acsmailf
TESTSFAILED   40 CONTAINS unknownuserf bracketfl bracketfr

If anyone is interested, our newest nigerian filter is available for
download at http://www.acsworld.net/declude/nigerianf.zip . It's a work in
progress but it seems to catch some scam messages everyday.

Later,
Greg

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Re[5]: [Declude.Virus] Missed virus reports

2004-05-06 Thread David Sullivan
Hello Patrick,

Monday, May 3, 2004, 6:44:52 PM, you wrote:

PC Hello David,

 BANEZIPEXTS ON

PC Sorry to jump in but just a couple of thoughts.

PC Are you running the Pro version of Declude? I don't think BANEZIPEXTS
PC works on the Standard version. Secondly, I believe, in special
PC circumstances, some admins configure Declude Junkmail to run before
PC Declude AV. I think this configuration could cause this behavior.

Good thoughts on both of them there.  Unfortunately, yes... we are
running Pro and no, we haven't switched the JM/AV scanning order.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] problems with the F-Prot updater

2004-05-06 Thread Douglas Cohn
I have seen this as well.

You could write a batch file that tests for the website first and if it
resolves correctly runs the updater.  If not it loops through and delays 10
minutes and then tries again.

I have been planning to do just that myself.

I run the updates every hour so I am more likely to see this issue than
someone that runs it daily at 3AM.

Good luck

DC 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hermann Strassner
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 4:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] problems with the F-Prot updater

 Is any one else having problems getting updates from the f-prot site?
 I get a runtime error from the updater program, and when I go to the
website
 to download the updates, I get a page can not be found.

I can`t reach the website and i got an runtime error 1 time. Half an hour
later everything worked fine again. I think the website was down or there
was too much traffic.

Hermann

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RE: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

2004-05-06 Thread Douglas Cohn
Help me out please.

Why are we looking for the beginning of an IP address?  Also my
understanding of these filters is to eliminate sending emails to users that
were not the original senders because of a forged virus.  Is that correct???
If so wouldn't adding the Virus name to the declude forged tag solve that??

I am asking here so please do not assume I know much G...

bracketfl - returned messages should have the original headers so I'm
looking for the beginning of an IP address 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of System Administrator
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

on 4/30/04 12:41 PM, Jeffrey Di Gregorio wrote:

 Does anyone have a suggestion on what to do about the growing number 
 of auto reply messages being received by clients because of the 
 current amount of forging viruses.  I am getting daily complaints from 
 clients who say they never sent anything to someone but are receiving 
 multiple auto response messages (user unknown, mailbox full, virus 
 warnings, etc.)  I am at a loss on what to do about this.

I was having the same problem as you and I came up with these filters that
seem to work for me.

UNKNOWNUSERF filter e:\imail\declude\unknownuserf.txt   x 0  0
BRACKETFLfilter e:\imail\declude\bracketfl.txt  x 0  0
BRACKETFRfilter e:\imail\declude\bracketfr.txt  x 0  0
ACSMAILF filter e:\imail\declude\acsmailf.txt   x 0  0
NEVERSENTF   filter e:\imail\declude\neversentf.txt x 0  0

unknownuserf - 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS unknown user
BODY 0 CONTAINS user unknown

bracketfl - returned messages should have the original headers so I'm
looking for the beginning of an IP address

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS [1
BODY 0 CONTAINS [2
BODY 0 CONTAINS [3
BODY 0 CONTAINS [4
BODY 0 CONTAINS [5
BODY 0 CONTAINS [6
BODY 0 CONTAINS [7
BODY 0 CONTAINS [8
BODY 0 CONTAINS [9

bracketfr - looking for the end of an IP address

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS 0]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 1]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 2]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 3]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 4]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 5]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 6]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 7]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 8]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 9]

acsmailf - contains the IP and name of my outgoing mail server (obviously
substitute yours), if the message contains one of these values it is
possible the message did originate here.

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS 12.4.184.4
BODY 0 CONTAINS mail.acsworld.com

neversentf - if the message was about an unknown user and had header
records, but they were not from my mail server, then it didn't come from my
mail server so we add 40 to the weight. We delete on 40 weight.

SKIPIFWEIGHT  50
TESTSFAILED  END CONTAINS acsmailf
TESTSFAILED   40 CONTAINS unknownuserf bracketfl bracketfr

If anyone is interested, our newest nigerian filter is available for
download at http://www.acsworld.net/declude/nigerianf.zip . It's a work in
progress but it seems to catch some scam messages everyday.

Later,
Greg

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RE: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

2004-05-06 Thread Scott Fisher
Here's what works for me:

Matt's (Mailpure) ANTI-AV filter works pretty well for me. 

Then this was discussed last weekend on the list. It involved punishing those that 
fail the anti-av filter and have a null mail.

I have a postmaster-mail filter:
MAILFROM0   IS  
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSadministrator@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSAntigen@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSAntigen_
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSDLWC-virus-scanner@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSe500admin@
MAILFROM0   STARTSWITH  NAV@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSNAVMSE-
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSNAVMSE_
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSNAVMSE@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSPOSTMASTER@
MAILFROM0   STARTSWITH  root@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSSymantec_AntiVirus_for_SMTP_Gateways@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSVirus_Alert@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSVirus-Alert@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSVirus-Alert.
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSviruschecker@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSvirus-scanner@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSvirusmanager@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSVirus-Monitor@
MAILFROM0   CONTAINSvirusscan@

Then I have a combo filter for the anti-av (called MP-ANTI-AV) and the 
Postmaster-mail, giving 10 more points.
TESTSFAILED 10  CONTAINSMP-ANTI-AV POSTMASTER-MAIL

Note, I'm lazy and have the postmaster-mail filter immediately after the mp-anti-av 
filter in my cfg file. This way I can avoid a couple of other Testfailed filter. If 
you move the postmaster-mail filter to a different location, you'll need to add 
testfailed to look for each individual filters and then combo testfailed on those.


Scott Fisher
Director of IT
Farm Progress Companies

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/06/04 09:10AM 
Help me out please.

Why are we looking for the beginning of an IP address?  Also my
understanding of these filters is to eliminate sending emails to users that
were not the original senders because of a forged virus.  Is that correct???
If so wouldn't adding the Virus name to the declude forged tag solve that??

I am asking here so please do not assume I know much G...

bracketfl - returned messages should have the original headers so I'm
looking for the beginning of an IP address 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of System Administrator
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 8:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

on 4/30/04 12:41 PM, Jeffrey Di Gregorio wrote:

 Does anyone have a suggestion on what to do about the growing number 
 of auto reply messages being received by clients because of the 
 current amount of forging viruses.  I am getting daily complaints from 
 clients who say they never sent anything to someone but are receiving 
 multiple auto response messages (user unknown, mailbox full, virus 
 warnings, etc.)  I am at a loss on what to do about this.

I was having the same problem as you and I came up with these filters that
seem to work for me.

UNKNOWNUSERF filter e:\imail\declude\unknownuserf.txt   x 0  0
BRACKETFLfilter e:\imail\declude\bracketfl.txt  x 0  0
BRACKETFRfilter e:\imail\declude\bracketfr.txt  x 0  0
ACSMAILF filter e:\imail\declude\acsmailf.txt   x 0  0
NEVERSENTF   filter e:\imail\declude\neversentf.txt x 0  0

unknownuserf - 

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS unknown user
BODY 0 CONTAINS user unknown

bracketfl - returned messages should have the original headers so I'm
looking for the beginning of an IP address

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS [1
BODY 0 CONTAINS [2
BODY 0 CONTAINS [3
BODY 0 CONTAINS [4
BODY 0 CONTAINS [5
BODY 0 CONTAINS [6
BODY 0 CONTAINS [7
BODY 0 CONTAINS [8
BODY 0 CONTAINS [9

bracketfr - looking for the end of an IP address

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS 0]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 1]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 2]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 3]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 4]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 5]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 6]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 7]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 8]
BODY 0 CONTAINS 9]

acsmailf - contains the IP and name of my outgoing mail server (obviously
substitute yours), if the message contains one of these values it is
possible the message did originate here.

SKIPIFWEIGHT 50
BODY 0 CONTAINS 12.4.184.4
BODY 0 CONTAINS mail.acsworld.com

neversentf - if the message was about an unknown user and had header
records, but they were not from my mail server, then it didn't come from my
mail server so we add 40 to the weight. We delete on 40 weight.

SKIPIFWEIGHT  50
TESTSFAILED  END CONTAINS acsmailf
TESTSFAILED   40 CONTAINS unknownuserf bracketfl bracketfr

If anyone is interested, our newest nigerian filter is available for
download at http://www.acsworld.net/declude/nigerianf.zip . It's a work in
progress but it 

Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

2004-05-06 Thread System Administrator
on 5/6/04 10:10 AM, Douglas Cohn wrote:

 Why are we looking for the beginning of an IP address?

Our users were receiving a lot of messages like this ...

 Unknown user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Original message follows.
 
 Received: from 0016190464.com [67.96.70.122] by mx2.acsworld.net
   (SMTPD32-8.05) id AC92E01A0136; Sat, 01 May 2004 17:54:26 -0400
 Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:52:51 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Hidden message
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;

which indicates that [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, that really didn't happen.

The message contains Unknown user, has headers but does not have the IP or
name of our outgoing mail server in those original headers, so the message
wasn't actually sent by an ACSWorld user.

If they didn't send the original message, they don't want this message and
constantly explaining forging viruses, how they work, why the return message
gets returned, etc, was getting tiresome.

Later,
Greg

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Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

2004-05-06 Thread Matt




Greg,

I like your thinking very much here. Unfortunately this requires
knowing all the possible outgoing servers for all of your clients, and
because I'm gatewaying a bunch of E-mail, that is near impossible to
keep up with. I'm not about to give up on the idea though.

My BOUNCER filter that I described is very effective at handling NDR's
when they contain original content, even if it is just the headers
often times, but yesterday some child porn spammer used a real E-mail
address of a customer and generated about 500 bounces, and I estimate
that about 50 got through because they contained no content in the
bounce such as NDR's sent by AOL. Your filter might be a good way to
manage the situation for individual domains that are having problems
with real addresses being used, and implemented per-domain when a
problem arises. I'm wondering if you are aware of any NDR's that are
getting through your setup, i.e. ones that don't contain the headers.

Thanks,

Matt



System Administrator wrote:

  on 5/6/04 10:10 AM, Douglas Cohn wrote:

  
  
Why are we looking for the beginning of an IP address?

  
  
Our users were receiving a lot of messages like this ...

  
  

  Unknown user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Original message follows.

Received: from 0016190464.com [67.96.70.122] by mx2.acsworld.net
  (SMTPD32-8.05) id AC92E01A0136; Sat, 01 May 2004 17:54:26 -0400
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:52:51 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Hidden message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
  

  
  
which indicates that [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]. However, that really didn't happen.

The message contains "Unknown user", has headers but does not have the IP or
name of our outgoing mail server in those original headers, so the message
wasn't actually sent by an ACSWorld user.

If they didn't send the original message, they don't want this message and
constantly explaining forging viruses, how they work, why the return message
gets returned, etc, was getting tiresome.

Later,
Greg

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Re: [Declude.Virus] blocking auto reply messages

2004-05-06 Thread System Administrator
on 5/6/04 10:10 AM, Douglas Cohn wrote:

 Why are we looking for the beginning of an IP address?

Our users were receiving a lot of messages like this ...

 Unknown user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Original message follows.
 
 Received: from 0016190464.com [67.96.70.122] by mx2.acsworld.net
   (SMTPD32-8.05) id AC92E01A0136; Sat, 01 May 2004 17:54:26 -0400
 Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:52:51 -0600
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

which indicates that [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent a message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] However, that really didn't happen.

The message contains Unknown user, has headers but does not have the IP or
name of our outgoing mail server in those original headers, so the message
wasn't actually sent by an ACSWorld user.

If they didn't send the original message, they don't want this message and
constantly explaining forging viruses, how they work, why the return message
gets returned, etc, was getting tiresome.

Later,
Greg

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