Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension tripped by Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416

2004-03-18 Thread Darin Cox
Right, so if we detected actual file type (GIF instead of .js=NO), we would
know that it was a .gif and therefore not a threat...so it wouldn't get
banned.

Darin.


- Original Message - 
From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension tripped by Microsoft Outlook,
Build 10.0.3416


Turns out it was, and this also makes sense.  Outlook only munged the
name and not the file.  Here's the base64 code for the spacer image
along with the link and JavaScript is used to generate arguments
appended to the link:

- Actual Attachment (GIF) -
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name="nojavascript&WT.js=No"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Location:
http://stats.bradyinternational.com/dcso262fk09tjxucaxis09t1m_7v1i/njs.gif?dcsuri=/nojavascript&WT.js=No

R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAP8A/wAAACH5BAEALAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==


- Image Tag (original version was dynamic, this was the fall-back
used when attached) -
http://stats.bradyinternational.com/dcso262fk09tjxucaxis09t1m_7v1i=
/njs.gif?dcsuri=3D/nojavascript&WT.js=3DNo"=20
  width=3D1 border=3D0 name=3DDCSIMG> 


- JavaScript Used to Write The Image Tag -
  

Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension tripped by Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416

2004-03-18 Thread Matt
Turns out it was, and this also makes sense.  Outlook only munged the 
name and not the file.  Here's the base64 code for the spacer image 
along with the link and JavaScript is used to generate arguments 
appended to the link:

- Actual Attachment (GIF) -
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
   name="nojavascript&WT.js=No"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Location: 
http://stats.bradyinternational.com/dcso262fk09tjxucaxis09t1m_7v1i/njs.gif?dcsuri=/nojavascript&WT.js=No

R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAP8A/wAAACH5BAEALAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==

- Image Tag (original version was dynamic, this was the fall-back 
used when attached) -

 =
src=3D"http://stats.bradyinternational.com/dcso262fk09tjxucaxis09t1m_7v1i=
/njs.gif?dcsuri=3D/nojavascript&WT.js=3DNo"=20
 width=3D1 border=3D0 name=3DDCSIMG> 

- JavaScript Used to Write The Image Tag -
 

Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension tripped by Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416

2004-03-18 Thread R. Scott Perry

We do already have some support for that in Declude Virus Pro.  But, the 
problem is that it often isn't possible to tell what the file type is 
without the extension.  In this case, it would be very difficult to 
distinguish a .js file from a .txt file, for example.

There is another problem, too -- if you have a file that Declude Virus 
identifies as a .GIF file, but it has an .EXE extension, do you really want it?


The attachment in this case was the GIF file, just a spacer.gif used 
elsewhere in that page.
Actually, it wasn't, if I have the correct information:

- Attachment MIME Definition -
Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
   name="nojavascript&WT.js=No"
...
That file is named "nojavascript&WT.js=No".  Although there is a 
Content-Location: header afterwards, the Content-Location: header isn't 
used as part of the file name.

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension tripped by Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416

2004-03-18 Thread Darin Cox
Interesting...so it's Outlook's fault, eh?

Understand about text files...they would be next to impossible to determine
what the content really was without greatly increasing processing time and a
lot of effort.  However, I still think it is very valuable to add detection
of the obvious types like  EXE, COM, ZIP, etc. and allow banning even if
someone renamed it rather than depending on the file extension.  In the case
of .js, .vbs, .bat, I would expect that the identified type would be TEXT.

Note that I'm not saying get rid of the file extension banning capabilities,
just supplement with the _real_ type detection rather than whatever
extension it happens to have.

Darin.


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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension tripped by Microsoft Outlook,
Build 10.0.3416



>I understand the subsequent discussion in the declude.com example produces
>an attached file, but the original example from Matt was a .gif file, with
>additional querystring parameters that specified WT.js=No.  What should
have
>been checked was the ".gif" extension.

Actually, the web page URL was for a .gif file -- but Outlook reported it
as just "nojavascript&WT.js=No", so Declude Virus can't see the .GIF file.

>As far as the other issue regarding the declude.com example, I'll suggest
>again that the ability to check actual file type, rather than extension, be
>added.

We do already have some support for that in Declude Virus Pro.  But, the
problem is that it often isn't possible to tell what the file type is
without the extension.  In this case, it would be very difficult to
distinguish a .js file from a .txt file, for example.

There is another problem, too -- if you have a file that Declude Virus
identifies as a .GIF file, but it has an .EXE extension, do you really want
it?

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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Rick Leske
fwiw.. right or wrong here is what we're using

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~Rick

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Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB


> This list is from
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;290497
>
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> BANEXT  adp
> BANEXT  asx
> BANEXT  bas
> BANEXT  bat
> BANEXT  chm
> BANEXT  cmd
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> BANEXT  cpl
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>
> Sincerely,
>
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> 9975 Pennsylvania Ave. Manassas, Va. 20110-2028
> Ph: 703-273-4400 ext:1708 Fax: 703-691-0946
> -------------
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "David Stavert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:35 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB
>
>
> Renaming the extension which, if used by someone unfamiliar with
> extensions, could result in a file having a legit extension. As we know,
> file extensions for a known file type will disappear in a Windows
> default environment. Try coaching someone through that problem. Beter
> still would be to replace the "." With an underscore i.e. filename_mdb
> It makes the file truly UN executable and it is easy to rename, easy to
> describe.
>
>
> David
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Bertsch
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:46 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB
> >
> >
> > Thanks gang, much appreciated!!
> >
> > - Rodney
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Smart
> > Business Lists
> > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:32 AM
> > To: Rodney Bertsch
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB
> >
> >
> > Rodney,
> >
> > Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
> > RB> But they wouldn't self execute would they?
> >
> > With a little JavaScript in an html carrier or a few other ways I
> > can imagine it could be made to open.
> >
> > RB> You would still have to open the Access DB first before
> > there were
> > RB> problems. Putting the ZIP restriction in there wouldn't really
> > RB> protect any farther, just one more step to get to the bad macros.
> >
> > Yes, the database has to open.  But putting it in the zip means
> > that it has to be unzipped before it can open.
> >
> > RB> Or am I missing something here?  Can the MDB file be made
> > to execute
> > RB> automatically just by receiving the e-mail?
> >
> > It can if the client is using Outlook or Outlook Express and does
> > not have proper security settings.  It might even if the security
> > settings are proper.
> >
> > RB> What about Word and Excel files?  They can also contain
> > macros, can
> > RB> they
> > be
> > RB> made to execute automatically just by opening the e-mail?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > Terry Fritts
> >
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread William Baumbach
This list is from
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- Original Message -
From: "David Stavert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB


Renaming the extension which, if used by someone unfamiliar with
extensions, could result in a file having a legit extension. As we know,
file extensions for a known file type will disappear in a Windows
default environment. Try coaching someone through that problem. Beter
still would be to replace the "." With an underscore i.e. filename_mdb
It makes the file truly UN executable and it is easy to rename, easy to
describe.


David

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Bertsch
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB
>
>
> Thanks gang, much appreciated!!
>
> - Rodney
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Smart
> Business Lists
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:32 AM
> To: Rodney Bertsch
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB
>
>
> Rodney,
>
> Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
> RB> But they wouldn't self execute would they?
>
> With a little JavaScript in an html carrier or a few other ways I
> can imagine it could be made to open.
>
> RB> You would still have to open the Access DB first before
> there were
> RB> problems. Putting the ZIP restriction in there wouldn't really
> RB> protect any farther, just one more step to get to the bad macros.
>
> Yes, the database has to open.  But putting it in the zip means
> that it has to be unzipped before it can open.
>
> RB> Or am I missing something here?  Can the MDB file be made
> to execute
> RB> automatically just by receiving the e-mail?
>
> It can if the client is using Outlook or Outlook Express and does
> not have proper security settings.  It might even if the security
> settings are proper.
>
> RB> What about Word and Excel files?  They can also contain
> macros, can
> RB> they
> be
> RB> made to execute automatically just by opening the e-mail?
>
> Yes.
>
> Terry Fritts
>
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread David Stavert
Renaming the extension which, if used by someone unfamiliar with
extensions, could result in a file having a legit extension. As we know,
file extensions for a known file type will disappear in a Windows
default environment. Try coaching someone through that problem. Beter
still would be to replace the "." With an underscore i.e. filename_mdb
It makes the file truly UN executable and it is easy to rename, easy to
describe.


David

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Bertsch
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:46 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB
> 
> 
> Thanks gang, much appreciated!!
> 
> - Rodney
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Smart 
> Business Lists
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:32 AM
> To: Rodney Bertsch
> Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB
> 
> 
> Rodney,
> 
> Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
> RB> But they wouldn't self execute would they?
> 
> With a little JavaScript in an html carrier or a few other ways I
> can imagine it could be made to open.
> 
> RB> You would still have to open the Access DB first before 
> there were 
> RB> problems. Putting the ZIP restriction in there wouldn't really 
> RB> protect any farther, just one more step to get to the bad macros.
> 
> Yes, the database has to open.  But putting it in the zip means
> that it has to be unzipped before it can open.
> 
> RB> Or am I missing something here?  Can the MDB file be made 
> to execute 
> RB> automatically just by receiving the e-mail?
> 
> It can if the client is using Outlook or Outlook Express and does
> not have proper security settings.  It might even if the security
> settings are proper.
> 
> RB> What about Word and Excel files?  They can also contain 
> macros, can 
> RB> they
> be
> RB> made to execute automatically just by opening the e-mail?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> Terry Fritts
> 
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Rodney Bertsch
Thanks gang, much appreciated!!

- Rodney

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Rodney,

Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
RB> But they wouldn't self execute would they?

With a little JavaScript in an html carrier or a few other ways I
can imagine it could be made to open.

RB> You would still have to open the Access DB first before there were
RB> problems. Putting the ZIP restriction in there wouldn't really
RB> protect any farther, just one more step to get to the bad macros.

Yes, the database has to open.  But putting it in the zip means
that it has to be unzipped before it can open.

RB> Or am I missing something here?  Can the MDB file be made to execute
RB> automatically just by receiving the e-mail?

It can if the client is using Outlook or Outlook Express and does
not have proper security settings.  It might even if the security
settings are proper.

RB> What about Word and Excel files?  They can also contain macros, can they
be
RB> made to execute automatically just by opening the e-mail?

Yes.

Terry Fritts

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Declude Virus
You can have Access databases auto-run two ways:

1) Create a macro called AutoExec
2) In Tools/Startup choose a Display Form/Page form and attach code in its
"open" event.

-Bill

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> A workaround you might suggest is renaming the file to a different
> extension - that will get around the WinZip problem and _should_ also
> make the files safe.

I agree with this method. Correct me if I am wrong, but just opening an
Access database does not cause any Macros in it to run, you have to run a
query or such.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Smart Business Lists
Rodney,

Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
RB> But they wouldn't self execute would they?

With a little JavaScript in an html carrier or a few other ways I
can imagine it could be made to open.

RB> You would still have to open the Access DB first before there were
RB> problems. Putting the ZIP restriction in there wouldn't really
RB> protect any farther, just one more step to get to the bad macros.

Yes, the database has to open.  But putting it in the zip means
that it has to be unzipped before it can open.

RB> Or am I missing something here?  Can the MDB file be made to execute
RB> automatically just by receiving the e-mail?

It can if the client is using Outlook or Outlook Express and does
not have proper security settings.  It might even if the security
settings are proper.

RB> What about Word and Excel files?  They can also contain macros, can they be
RB> made to execute automatically just by opening the e-mail?

Yes.

Terry Fritts

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread John Tolmachoff
> macros can run on open

Thanks for the clarification.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Smart Business Lists
John,

Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
JT> I agree with this method. Correct me if I am wrong, but just opening an
JT> Access database does not cause any Macros in it to run, you have to run a
JT> query or such.

macros can run on open


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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread John Tolmachoff
> A workaround you might suggest is renaming the file to a different
> extension - that will get around the WinZip problem and _should_ also
> make the files safe.

I agree with this method. Correct me if I am wrong, but just opening an
Access database does not cause any Macros in it to run, you have to run a
query or such.

John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Don Wolff
If I remember correctly on 2/24/03 7:23 AM Rodney Bertsch wrote:

> But they wouldn't self execute would they?  You would still have to open the
> Access DB first before there were problems.  Putting the ZIP restriction in
> there wouldn't really protect any farther, just one more step to get to the
> bad macros.
> 
> Or am I missing something here?  Can the MDB file be made to execute
> automatically just by receiving the e-mail?
> 
> What about Word and Excel files?  They can also contain macros, can they be
> made to execute automatically just by opening the e-mail?

If they don't want to zip it, just have them change the extension. Say from
.mdb to .mdz.

Regards,

-Don

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Madscientist
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rodney Bertsch

| One of our users wants to send an MDB file (MS Access) that I 
| currently have
| on my banned extensions list.  The receiver (not our user) is 
| not familiar
| with WinZIP

I'm sure others will repost the info on the extensions.

A workaround you might suggest is renaming the file to a different
extension - that will get around the winzip problem and _should_ also
make the files safe.

_M

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Rodney Bertsch
But they wouldn't self execute would they?  You would still have to open the
Access DB first before there were problems.  Putting the ZIP restriction in
there wouldn't really protect any farther, just one more step to get to the
bad macros.

Or am I missing something here?  Can the MDB file be made to execute
automatically just by receiving the e-mail?

What about Word and Excel files?  They can also contain macros, can they be
made to execute automatically just by opening the e-mail?

Thanks,

Rodney Bertsch
IS Coordinator
Kirk NationaLease Co.


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Rodney,

Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
RB> I tried to find some
RB> supporting documentation as to exactly why the MDB file extension is
unsafe
RB> to send but was unable to find any

because you can put macros in it and macros can be vicious.



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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension - MDB

2003-02-24 Thread Smart Business Lists
Rodney,

Monday, February 24, 2003 you wrote:
RB> I tried to find some
RB> supporting documentation as to exactly why the MDB file extension is unsafe
RB> to send but was unable to find any

because you can put macros in it and macros can be vicious.



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Re: [Declude.Virus] Banned Extension List

2003-01-14 Thread Bob McGregor
here is the one I reference:

http://office.microsoft.com/assistance/2000/Out2ksecFAQ.aspx



On Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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>Can someone please furnish me the link to the Microsoft page listing the
>extensions that should be banned?
>Thanks,
>Doug McKee
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Banned extension

2002-07-04 Thread Hermann Strassner

Hello Scott!

> It will get bigger, but not nearly as much as the debug mode (which can 
> easily create log files 10-100 times their current size).  At 
> most, I would 
> guess that the log files would increase about 20% by using HIGH.

OK, i will set it as default, 20% don`t bother me.

> You can find it at http://www.declude.com/virus/manual.htm .

Thanks, i bookmarked it now.

Hermann

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