Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-31 Thread Matt




Follow-up (and warning for others).

The problem was EDNS0. This is installed by default on Windows 2003
and must be disabled otherwise some firewalls and older versions of
BIND will not resolve queries. More about disabling it can be found
here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/828263

The seriously strange thing is that I ran across this about a year ago
and I had disabled EDNS0 on all of my production servers, and while the
registry setting was still there showing it was disabled, reapplying
the command to disable it, and restarting my DNS servers, caused the
issue to go away. So it appears that some update or other unassociated
config process caused EDNS0 to magically come back on with three of my
boxes.

Marc, the fact that your DNS service provider has issues with a default
Windows 2003 setting would be good reason for you to insist that they
change immediately, or move your DNS to another provider. When I ran
into this a year ago it was an older version of BIND that was causing
issues, but I have heard that old Cisco and SonicWall software can also
block these packets.

Matt



Matt wrote:

  
Marc,
  
One other off-topic thing. For some reason, none of my Windows 2003
DNS servers will resolve any of your DNS records. I can however
resolve through other servers running on both Mac's (BSD) and Linux, I
can tracert to your DNS provider's IP space from my network, and I can
query directly off of your DNS provider's servers using a query tool
on my desktop. I tested 4 of my Windows 2003 DNS servers at two
locations and two totally different networks though with timeouts on
everything, and only for your domain and skynetweb.com. It seems that
your provider is blocking or otherwise selectively not responding to
queries made from Windows 2003 DNS (including nslookup running on those
boxes). You might want to check into this because this is probably
widespread.
  
Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote:
  







Matt 
thanks again. I cant
get a download off of the declude page other than the latest version
and hot
fixes for 1.76-1.82 no 2. versions at all

I may
venture into the 3s but I am
still running IMAIL 8.15  Ive been too scared to upgrade either
product lately, sad really. I used to wait about a week before jumping
on
an upgrade

Keep hoping
smarter mail will pan out,
most of my users are on webmail and I hear that it is abysmal on IMAIL
2006 

Sorry for
the rant, but I hate I far
behind I feel





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January
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[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help


Marc,

2.0.6.16 is as solid as any release that I have seen, and I can't see
how you
would have any issues with upgrading to it, nor are there any changes
that must
be made. The only caveat here is that you will have issues on any
version
of IMail later than 8.15HF2. 2.0.6.16 fixes issues present in 1.82,
adds
new functionality such as this vulnerability stuff, and does not
introduce any
new bugs that I am aware of.

I don't want to dismiss the latest 3.x release since others are happy
with it,
but since I run IMail 8.15HF2, there is little in that release that
enhances my
immediate use, and I am willing to wait a bit longer so that a period
of
stability can be established before I make the jump.

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 
So
since I am running 1.82 I can either
allow all vulnerabilities or not 
I have been
putting off upgrading till
IMAIL and Declude are all at nice stable releases
Any input on
what the latest/best working
combo is?

Crap. 

Thank you!




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Sent: Monday,
January
30, 2006
5:44 PM
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Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help



ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM came
in 2.0. They never
documented ALLOWVULNERABILITY in the release notes, but I know it works
in
2.0.6.14 and higher. I think it came along somewhere after 2.0.6.0

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 
Matt
thank you  What version of Declude is needed for
these allows?




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Sent: Monday,
January
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Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help



Marc,

It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered
years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I
have
however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.

You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so
long as
you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Matt




Marc,

It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered
years ago and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an
exploit; I have however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.

You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so
long as you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was
introduced).
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING

I would actually suggest turning off all of the following:
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLCR
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLSPACEGAP
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPRE
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPOST
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLLONGFILENAME
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OBJECTDATA
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBOUNDARYSPACEGAP


If you want to leave all of this stuff in and suffer from other false
positives that they create, you can instead just exclude a single
address using the following line in your Virus.cfg:
ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote:

  
  
  

  
  Somebody is
sending e-mail that must get
through (of course) and it is failing the blank folding Vulnerability
test.
What can I tell this person they should do to not have this e-mail get
caught? I dont want to allow vulnerabilities through but.
  
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890
Outlook 'Blank Folding' vulnerability in line 18
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=18542 Checksum=1227819]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4306 Checksum=452062]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=1034 Checksum=131676]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=856 Checksum=109734]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=7726 Checksum=981323]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=82 Checksum=8156]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=112 Checksum=14660]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=811 Checksum=104494]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=635 Checksum=80089]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4089 Checksum=441269]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=101 Checksum=14757]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=310 Checksum=41235]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00418 [base64; Length=1744 Checksum=207233]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00421 [base64; Length=664 Checksum=83706]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00424 [base64; Length=1118 Checksum=136918]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00427 [base64; Length=12674 Checksum=1212421]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00430 [base64; Length=82 Checksum=7785]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00433 [base64; Length=112 Checksum=14219]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00436 [base64; Length=685 Checksum=83744]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00439 [base64; Length=1361 Checksum=169802]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00442 [base64; Length=101 Checksum=14316]
  01/20/2006
07:25:45 Qd6c809e500d45890
File(s) are INFECTED [[Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability]: 0]
  





RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Marc Catuogno








Matt thank you  What version of
Declude is needed for these allows?











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
5:09 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help





Marc,

It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I have
however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.

You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so long as
you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced).

ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING

I would actually suggest turning off all of the
following:

ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLCR
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLSPACEGAP
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPRE
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPOST
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLLONGFILENAME
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OBJECTDATA
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBOUNDARYSPACEGAP


If you want to leave all of this stuff in and suffer from other false positives
that they create, you can instead just exclude a single address using the
following line in your Virus.cfg:

ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 

Somebody is sending e-mail that must get through (of course)
and it is failing the blank folding Vulnerability test. What can I tell
this person they should do to not have this e-mail get caught? I
dont want to allow vulnerabilities through but.



01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890
Outlook 'Blank Folding' vulnerability in line 18

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=18542 Checksum=1227819]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4306 Checksum=452062]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=1034 Checksum=131676]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=856 Checksum=109734]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=7726 Checksum=981323]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=82 Checksum=8156]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=112 Checksum=14660]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=811 Checksum=104494]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=635 Checksum=80089]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4089 Checksum=441269]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=101 Checksum=14757]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=310 Checksum=41235]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00418 [base64; Length=1744 Checksum=207233]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00421 [base64; Length=664 Checksum=83706]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00424 [base64; Length=1118 Checksum=136918]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00427 [base64; Length=12674 Checksum=1212421]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00430 [base64; Length=82 Checksum=7785]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00433 [base64; Length=112 Checksum=14219]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00436 [base64; Length=685 Checksum=83744]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00439 [base64; Length=1361 Checksum=169802]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00442 [base64; Length=101 Checksum=14316]

01/20/2006 07:25:45 Qd6c809e500d45890
File(s) are INFECTED [[Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability]: 0]








Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Matt




ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM came in 2.0. They never documented ALLOWVULNERABILITY in the release notes, but
I know it works in 2.0.6.14 and higher. I think it came along
somewhere after 2.0.6.0

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote:

  
  

  
  
  Matt thank
you  What version of
Declude is needed for these allows?
  
  
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
5:09 PM
  To:
Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  Marc,
  
It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered
years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I
have
however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.
  
You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so
long as
you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced).
  ALLOWVULNERABILITY
OLBLANKFOLDING
  I would actually suggest
turning off all of the
following:
  ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLCR
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLSPACEGAP
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPRE
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPOST
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLLONGFILENAME
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OBJECTDATA
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBOUNDARYSPACEGAP
  
If you want to leave all of this stuff in and suffer from other false
positives
that they create, you can instead just exclude a single address using
the
following line in your Virus.cfg:
  ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  Somebody
is sending e-mail that must get through (of course)
and it is failing the blank folding Vulnerability test. What can I
tell
this person they should do to not have this e-mail get caught? I
dont want to allow vulnerabilities through but.
  
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890
Outlook 'Blank Folding' vulnerability in line 18
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=18542 Checksum=1227819]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4306 Checksum=452062]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=1034 Checksum=131676]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=856 Checksum=109734]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=7726 Checksum=981323]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=82 Checksum=8156]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=112 Checksum=14660]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=811 Checksum=104494]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=635 Checksum=80089]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4089 Checksum=441269]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=101 Checksum=14757]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=310 Checksum=41235]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00418 [base64; Length=1744 Checksum=207233]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00421 [base64; Length=664 Checksum=83706]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00424 [base64; Length=1118 Checksum=136918]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00427 [base64; Length=12674 Checksum=1212421]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00430 [base64; Length=82 Checksum=7785]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00433 [base64; Length=112 Checksum=14219]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00436 [base64; Length=685 Checksum=83744]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00439 [base64; Length=1361 Checksum=169802]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00442 [base64; Length=101 Checksum=14316]
  01/20/2006
07:25:45 Qd6c809e500d45890
File(s) are INFECTED [[Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability]: 0]
  





RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Marc Catuogno








So since I am running 1.82 I can either
allow all vulnerabilities or not 

I have been putting off upgrading till
IMAIL and Declude are all at nice stable releases

Any input on what the latest/best working combo
is?



Crap. 



Thank you!











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
5:44 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help





ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM came in 2.0. They never
documented ALLOWVULNERABILITY in the release notes, but I know it works in
2.0.6.14 and higher. I think it came along somewhere after 2.0.6.0

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 

Matt thank you  What version of Declude is needed for
these allows?











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
5:09 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help







Marc,

It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I have
however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.

You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so long as
you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced).

ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING

I would actually suggest turning off all of the
following:

ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLCR
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLSPACEGAP
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPRE
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPOST
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLLONGFILENAME
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OBJECTDATA
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBOUNDARYSPACEGAP


If you want to leave all of this stuff in and suffer from other false positives
that they create, you can instead just exclude a single address using the
following line in your Virus.cfg:

ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 

Somebody is sending e-mail that must get through (of course)
and it is failing the blank folding Vulnerability test. What can I tell
this person they should do to not have this e-mail get caught? I
dont want to allow vulnerabilities through but.



01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890
Outlook 'Blank Folding' vulnerability in line 18

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=18542 Checksum=1227819]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4306 Checksum=452062]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=1034 Checksum=131676]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=856 Checksum=109734]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=7726 Checksum=981323]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=82 Checksum=8156]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=112 Checksum=14660]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=811 Checksum=104494]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=635 Checksum=80089]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4089 Checksum=441269]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=101 Checksum=14757]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=310 Checksum=41235]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00418 [base64; Length=1744 Checksum=207233]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00421 [base64; Length=664 Checksum=83706]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00424 [base64; Length=1118 Checksum=136918]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00427 [base64; Length=12674 Checksum=1212421]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00430 [base64; Length=82 Checksum=7785]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00433 [base64; Length=112 Checksum=14219]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00436 [base64; Length=685 Checksum=83744]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00439 [base64; Length=1361 Checksum=169802]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00442 [base64; Length=101 Checksum=14316]

01/20/2006 07:25:45 Qd6c809e500d45890
File(s) are INFECTED [[Outlook 'Blank Folding' Vulnerability]: 0]








Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Matt




Marc,

2.0.6.16 is as solid as any release that I have seen, and I can't see
how you would have any issues with upgrading to it, nor are there any
changes that must be made. The only caveat here is that you will have
issues on any version of IMail later than 8.15HF2. 2.0.6.16 fixes
issues present in 1.82, adds new functionality such as this
vulnerability stuff, and does not introduce any new bugs that I am
aware of.

I don't want to dismiss the latest 3.x release since others are happy
with it, but since I run IMail 8.15HF2, there is little in that release
that enhances my immediate use, and I am willing to wait a bit longer
so that a period of stability can be established before I make the jump.

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  So since I
am running 1.82 I can either
allow all vulnerabilities or not 
  I have been
putting off upgrading till
IMAIL and Declude are all at nice stable releases
  Any input on
what the latest/best working combo
is?
  
  Crap. 
  
  Thank you!
  
  
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
5:44 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM came
in 2.0. They never
documented ALLOWVULNERABILITY in the release notes, but I know it works
in
2.0.6.14 and higher. I think it came along somewhere after 2.0.6.0
  
Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  Matt
thank you  What version of Declude is needed for
these allows?
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
5:09 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  
  Marc,
  
It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered
years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I
have
however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.
  
You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so
long as
you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced).
  ALLOWVULNERABILITY
OLBLANKFOLDING
  I would actually suggest
turning off all of the
following:
  ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLCR
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLSPACEGAP
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPRE
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPOST
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLLONGFILENAME
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OBJECTDATA
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBOUNDARYSPACEGAP
  
If you want to leave all of this stuff in and suffer from other false
positives
that they create, you can instead just exclude a single address using
the
following line in your Virus.cfg:
  ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  Somebody
is sending e-mail that must get through (of course)
and it is failing the blank folding Vulnerability test. What can I
tell
this person they should do to not have this e-mail get caught? I
dont want to allow vulnerabilities through but.
  
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890
Outlook 'Blank Folding' vulnerability in line 18
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=18542 Checksum=1227819]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4306 Checksum=452062]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=1034 Checksum=131676]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=856 Checksum=109734]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=7726 Checksum=981323]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=82 Checksum=8156]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=112 Checksum=14660]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=811 Checksum=104494]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=635 Checksum=80089]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4089 Checksum=441269]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=101 Checksum=14757]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=310 Checksum=41235]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00418 [base64; Length=1744 Checksum=207233]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00421 [base64; Length=664 Checksum=83706]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00424 [base64; Length=1118 Checksum=136918]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00427 [base64; Length=12674 Checksum=1212421]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00430 [base64; Length=82 Checksum=7785]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00433 [base64; Length=112 Checksum=14219]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: ATT00436 [base64; Length=685 Checksum=83744

RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Marc Catuogno








Matt  thanks again. I cant
get a download off of the declude page other than the latest version and hot
fixes for 1.76-1.82 no 2. versions at all



I may venture into the 3s but I am
still running IMAIL 8.15  Ive been too scared to upgrade either
product lately, sad really. I used to wait about a week before jumping on
an upgrade



Keep hoping smarter mail will pan out,
most of my users are on webmail and I hear that it is abysmal on IMAIL 2006 



Sorry for the rant, but I hate I far
behind I feel













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
9:10 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help





Marc,

2.0.6.16 is as solid as any release that I have seen, and I can't see how you
would have any issues with upgrading to it, nor are there any changes that must
be made. The only caveat here is that you will have issues on any version
of IMail later than 8.15HF2. 2.0.6.16 fixes issues present in 1.82, adds
new functionality such as this vulnerability stuff, and does not introduce any
new bugs that I am aware of.

I don't want to dismiss the latest 3.x release since others are happy with it,
but since I run IMail 8.15HF2, there is little in that release that enhances my
immediate use, and I am willing to wait a bit longer so that a period of
stability can be established before I make the jump.

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 

So since I am running 1.82 I can either
allow all vulnerabilities or not 

I have been putting off upgrading till
IMAIL and Declude are all at nice stable releases

Any input on what the latest/best working
combo is?



Crap. 



Thank you!











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
5:44 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help







ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM came in 2.0. They never
documented ALLOWVULNERABILITY in the release notes, but I know it works in
2.0.6.14 and higher. I think it came along somewhere after 2.0.6.0

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 

Matt thank you  What version of Declude is needed for
these allows?











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006
5:09 PM
To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help







Marc,

It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I have
however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.

You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so long as
you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced).

ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING

I would actually suggest turning off all of the
following:

ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLCR
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLSPACEGAP
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPRE
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPOST
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLLONGFILENAME
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OBJECTDATA
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBOUNDARYSPACEGAP


If you want to leave all of this stuff in and suffer from other false positives
that they create, you can instead just exclude a single address using the
following line in your Virus.cfg:

ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote: 

Somebody is sending e-mail that must get through (of course)
and it is failing the blank folding Vulnerability test. What can I tell
this person they should do to not have this e-mail get caught? I
dont want to allow vulnerabilities through but.



01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890
Outlook 'Blank Folding' vulnerability in line 18

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=18542 Checksum=1227819]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4306 Checksum=452062]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=1034 Checksum=131676]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=856 Checksum=109734]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=7726 Checksum=981323]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=82 Checksum=8156]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=112 Checksum=14660]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=811 Checksum=104494]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=635 Checksum=80089]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4089 Checksum=441269]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=101 Checksum=14757]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/gif][base64; Length=310 Checksum=41235]

01/20/2006 07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Matt




Marc,

I'm using SmarterMail for hosted E-mail and 2.6 isn't quite where I
would like to see it. I'm not sure what the new version will offer
that 2.6 doesn't, but there will certainly be refinements for Declude
such as support for WHITELIST AUTH and their port 587 support will
enable us to lock it down to AUTH-only connections. On the other hand,
some of the things that bother me somewhat are the proprietary format
of the user's mail box files (there is a mix of binary and ASCII data
and they can't be hand-edited). They also don't have tools available
such as IMail's ExtractUsers.exe which outputs a file with all user
information and their passwords. I also have some gripes about not
being able to disable things like catch-all functionality and vacation
messages, and I think that some of their default settings could be
better thought out such as needing to check a box when entering a
forwarding address or it will leave a copy of the messages on the
server. On the flip side it does have some features that are nicer
than IMail 8.15 such as a better Web interface and better performance.
The interface is why I switched, but I still use IMail with Declude for
doing all of my scanning.

As far as IMail 2006 goes, I think they are doing a good job of
listening, but naturally with such a big change to their Web interface
one should wait a little bit for things to become fully vetted and
stable. I think they are working fast to address all known issues. I
also like the idea that IMail has opted for a very open Webmail
implementation so that one can do a lot of tweaking to the Interface.
I still haven't tried their Webmail, but if things turn out good, I
might actually switch back from SmarterMail because for me it would be
better to have just one platform to support, and I desire IMail's
straightforward mailbox format and flexibility in tweaking Webmail.
The way that SmarterMail works by showing messages on a totally
different screen than the list of messages makes it impractical for
doing spam review in capture accounts (unless you want to click back
for every message). Maybe they will change to a framed format in 3.0,
but until they do, I have no choice but to keep IMail.

I'm sure that clears a lot of things up :)

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  Matt 
thanks again. I cant
get a download off of the declude page other than the latest version
and hot
fixes for 1.76-1.82 no 2. versions at all
  
  I may
venture into the 3s but I am
still running IMAIL 8.15  Ive been too scared to upgrade either
product lately, sad really. I used to wait about a week before jumping
on
an upgrade
  
  Keep hoping
smarter mail will pan out,
most of my users are on webmail and I hear that it is abysmal on IMAIL
2006 
  
  Sorry for
the rant, but I hate I far
behind I feel
  
  
  
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
9:10 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  Marc,
  
2.0.6.16 is as solid as any release that I have seen, and I can't see
how you
would have any issues with upgrading to it, nor are there any changes
that must
be made. The only caveat here is that you will have issues on any
version
of IMail later than 8.15HF2. 2.0.6.16 fixes issues present in 1.82,
adds
new functionality such as this vulnerability stuff, and does not
introduce any
new bugs that I am aware of.
  
I don't want to dismiss the latest 3.x release since others are happy
with it,
but since I run IMail 8.15HF2, there is little in that release that
enhances my
immediate use, and I am willing to wait a bit longer so that a period
of
stability can be established before I make the jump.
  
Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  So
since I am running 1.82 I can either
allow all vulnerabilities or not 
  I have been
putting off upgrading till
IMAIL and Declude are all at nice stable releases
  Any input on
what the latest/best working
combo is?
  
  Crap. 
  
  Thank you!
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
5:44 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  
  ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM came
in 2.0. They never
documented ALLOWVULNERABILITY in the release notes, but I know it works
in
2.0.6.14 and higher. I think it came along somewhere after 2.0.6.0
  
Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  Matt
thank you  What version of Declude is needed for
these allows?
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
5:09 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  
  Marc,
  
It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered
years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I
have
however seen a steady stream

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank folding vulnerablity help

2006-01-30 Thread Matt




Marc,

One other off-topic thing. For some reason, none of my Windows 2003
DNS servers will resolve any of your DNS records. I can however
resolve through other servers running on both Mac's (BSD) and Linux, I
can tracert to your DNS provider's IP space from my network, and I can
query directly off of your DNS provider's servers using a query tool
on my desktop. I tested 4 of my Windows 2003 DNS servers at two
locations and two totally different networks though with timeouts on
everything, and only for your domain and skynetweb.com. It seems that
your provider is blocking or otherwise selectively not responding to
queries made from Windows 2003 DNS (including nslookup running on those
boxes). You might want to check into this because this is probably
widespread.

Matt



Marc Catuogno wrote:

  
  


  
  
  
  Matt 
thanks again. I cant
get a download off of the declude page other than the latest version
and hot
fixes for 1.76-1.82 no 2. versions at all
  
  I may
venture into the 3s but I am
still running IMAIL 8.15  Ive been too scared to upgrade either
product lately, sad really. I used to wait about a week before jumping
on
an upgrade
  
  Keep hoping
smarter mail will pan out,
most of my users are on webmail and I hear that it is abysmal on IMAIL
2006 
  
  Sorry for
the rant, but I hate I far
behind I feel
  
  
  
  
  
  From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
9:10 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  Marc,
  
2.0.6.16 is as solid as any release that I have seen, and I can't see
how you
would have any issues with upgrading to it, nor are there any changes
that must
be made. The only caveat here is that you will have issues on any
version
of IMail later than 8.15HF2. 2.0.6.16 fixes issues present in 1.82,
adds
new functionality such as this vulnerability stuff, and does not
introduce any
new bugs that I am aware of.
  
I don't want to dismiss the latest 3.x release since others are happy
with it,
but since I run IMail 8.15HF2, there is little in that release that
enhances my
immediate use, and I am willing to wait a bit longer so that a period
of
stability can be established before I make the jump.
  
Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  So
since I am running 1.82 I can either
allow all vulnerabilities or not 
  I have been
putting off upgrading till
IMAIL and Declude are all at nice stable releases
  Any input on
what the latest/best working
combo is?
  
  Crap. 
  
  Thank you!
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
5:44 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  
  ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM came
in 2.0. They never
documented ALLOWVULNERABILITY in the release notes, but I know it works
in
2.0.6.14 and higher. I think it came along somewhere after 2.0.6.0
  
Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  Matt
thank you  What version of Declude is needed for
these allows?
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  On Behalf Of Matt
  Sent: Monday, January
30, 2006
5:09 PM
  To: Declude.Virus@declude.com
  Subject: Re:
[Declude.Virus] Blank
folding vulnerablity help
  
  
  
  Marc,
  
It was certainly a vulnerability at one point, but it was discovered
years ago
and should be long patched, plus I have never ever seen an exploit; I
have
however seen a steady stream of false positives with it.
  
You can turn this off by using the following line in your Virus.cfg so
long as
you are on at least 2.0.6 (I'm not sure when exactly it was introduced).
  ALLOWVULNERABILITY
OLBLANKFOLDING
  I would actually suggest
turning off all of the
following:
  ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLCR
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLSPACEGAP
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPRE
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLMIMESEGMIMEPOST
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLLONGFILENAME
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBLANKFOLDING
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OBJECTDATA
ALLOWVULNERABILITY OLBOUNDARYSPACEGAP
  
If you want to leave all of this stuff in and suffer from other false
positives
that they create, you can instead just exclude a single address using
the
following line in your Virus.cfg:
  ALLOWVULNERABILITIESFROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Matt
  
  
  
Marc Catuogno wrote: 
  Somebody
is sending e-mail that must get through (of course)
and it is failing the blank folding Vulnerability test. What can I
tell
this person they should do to not have this e-mail get caught? I
dont want to allow vulnerabilities through but.
  
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890
Outlook 'Blank Folding' vulnerability in line 18
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [text/html][quoted-printable; Length=18542 Checksum=1227819]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/jpeg][base64; Length=4306 Checksum=452062]
  01/20/2006
07:25:44 Qd6c809e500d45890 MIME
file: [image/png][base64; Length=1034 Checksum=131676

Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding

2003-10-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

Why is this mail cached by the blank folder

I can't see anywhere that there are an error which should cause this
The Outlook Blank Folding Vulnerability occurs when there is a line in 
the headers with just a single space or a single tab character.  In this case:

From: Eivind Pettersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Helge_B=F8e_=28E-post=29?= [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Carl E. M. Flygare (E-post) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Harald Fossum (E-post) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Petter(jobb) (E-post) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Karl_Erik_Sletteb=F8e_=28E-post=29?= 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],

X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [213.236.237.229]
The last header (before Declude added its headers) was a line with just a 
single tab character.  This is in violation of RFC822 3.2.3, and creates 
the vulnerability.  Even more interesting, it appears that the mail client 
dropped off one of the recipients -- the last one ends with a ,, which 
would imply that there were more addresses that disappeared.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding

2003-10-03 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
so just a wild guess if u sent to a group of your contacts in Outlook and is has a bad 
adresss this can happen ?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: 3. oktober 2003 15:35
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding



Why is this mail cached by the blank folder

I can't see anywhere that there are an error which should cause this

The Outlook Blank Folding Vulnerability occurs when there is a line in 
the headers with just a single space or a single tab character.  In this case:

From: Eivind Pettersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Helge_B=F8e_=28E-post=29?= [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Carl E. M. Flygare (E-post) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Harald Fossum (E-post) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Petter(jobb) (E-post) [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Karl_Erik_Sletteb=F8e_=28E-post=29?= 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED],

X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [213.236.237.229]

The last header (before Declude added its headers) was a line with just a 
single tab character.  This is in violation of RFC822 3.2.3, and creates 
the vulnerability.  Even more interesting, it appears that the mail client 
dropped off one of the recipients -- the last one ends with a ,, which 
would imply that there were more addresses that disappeared.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding

2003-10-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

so just a wild guess if u sent to a group of your contacts in Outlook and 
is has a bad adresss this can happen ?
Only if the mail client is broken.

The problem is that folding is used to take a long line and split it up 
into several smaller lines (if you have looked at Received: headers, most 
of them do this -- if the header starts with a space or a tab, it is a 
continuation of the previous line).  However, with just a single space or 
tab, that's like taking one line and making two out of it, with the first 
line containing the whole line, and the second line completely blank.  It 
just doesn't make any sense.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding

2003-10-03 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
The problem is that folding is used to take a long line and split it up 
into several smaller lines (if you have looked at Received: headers, most 
of them do this -- if the header starts with a space or a tab, it is a 
continuation of the previous line).  However, with just a single space or 
tab, that's like taking one line and making two out of it, with the first 
line containing the whole line, and the second line completely blank.  It 
just doesn't make any sense.

-Scott
thats right but if I send an email to someone this is taken automaticly to outlook
and in outlook it just appeas as benny not the email address then Outlook will try 
to send to this contact even if there is not an
email address in that contact, then this one will appear as blank and can cause this ?

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RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding

2003-10-03 Thread R. Scott Perry

thats right but if I send an email to someone this is taken automaticly to 
outlook
and in outlook it just appeas as benny not the email address then 
Outlook will try to send to this contact even if there is not an
email address in that contact, then this one will appear as blank and can 
cause this ?
Unfortunately, I do not know under what situations Outlook will do this.

   -Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding

2003-10-03 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
ok just trying to figure out why this is coming in the mail

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry
Sent: 3. oktober 2003 16:52
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding



thats right but if I send an email to someone this is taken automaticly to 
outlook
and in outlook it just appeas as benny not the email address then 
Outlook will try to send to this contact even if there is not an
email address in that contact, then this one will appear as blank and can 
cause this ?

Unfortunately, I do not know under what situations Outlook will do this.

-Scott
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RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding

2003-10-03 Thread Donn Bly
With no email address you would normally get a no transport provider
available because outlook wouldn't know what to do with it.

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 Subject: RE: [Declude.Virus] Blank Folding


 The problem is that folding is used to take a long line and split it up
 into several smaller lines (if you have looked at Received: headers, most
 of them do this -- if the header starts with a space or a tab, it is a
 continuation of the previous line).  However, with just a single space or
 tab, that's like taking one line and making two out of it, with the first
 line containing the whole line, and the second line completely blank.  It
 just doesn't make any sense.

 -Scott
 thats right but if I send an email to someone this is taken
 automaticly to outlook
 and in outlook it just appeas as benny not the email address
 then Outlook will try to send to this contact even if there is not an
 email address in that contact, then this one will appear as blank
 and can cause this ?

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