RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

One more reason to have a banned extension policy in place.

Thanks for the heads up Scott.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com

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FYI, there is a new virus out, that Sophos has alerted us to, called 
W32/Fretham-Fam (no other AV companies that was get alerts from,
including 
McAfee, have sent out alerts yet).  This may be become widespread
because 
of the "social engineering" aspect of it -- it pretends to have a
Special 
Password attached, which it does -- but it supposedly needs to be
decrypted 
with the attach file.  The .EXE may run automatically in Outlook when
the 
E-mail is viewed (not sure which OE vulnerability it uses).  There are 
several variants of it already.

More details can be found at 
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32frethemfam.html .  The
attached 
files are decrypt-password.exe and password.txt, and it has a subject of

"Re: Your password!".
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Bill Beach

>FYI, there is a new virus out, that Sophos has alerted us to

I received the same Sophos alert this morning. I just ran Spam Review and
selected the Virus option and what do you know, one of these was there
waiting for me--it was actually sent to my e-mail address. But thanks to
Declude's BANEXT option, it was held due to the attached exe.


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Re: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Sheldon Koehler

> One more reason to have a banned extension policy in place.

I do now! I had avoided it as there are legitimate reasons to send certain
files. But the good of the many...

It got by F-Prot 3.12a/Declude 1.53 and when I did a Google search on the
name, McAffee was the only response and it was dated the 7th. I find this
interesting!

What kind of notification is sent if it is a BANEXT rejection if any? Is
there a text file I need to create for it?

Sheldon


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RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Dustin Freeman

I was notified today by Computer Associates eNews same info as already
posted.

http://support.ca.com/techbases/ilnt/virusalert2.html

Dustin

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FYI, there is a new virus out, that Sophos has alerted us to, called 
W32/Fretham-Fam (no other AV companies that was get alerts from, including 
McAfee, have sent out alerts yet).  This may be become widespread because 
of the "social engineering" aspect of it -- it pretends to have a Special 
Password attached, which it does -- but it supposedly needs to be decrypted 
with the attach file.  The .EXE may run automatically in Outlook when the 
E-mail is viewed (not sure which OE vulnerability it uses).  There are 
several variants of it already.

More details can be found at 
http://www.sophos.com/virusinfo/analyses/w32frethemfam.html .  The attached 
files are decrypt-password.exe and password.txt, and it has a subject of 
"Re: Your password!".
 -Scott

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Re: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


>It got by F-Prot 3.12a/Declude 1.53 and when I did a Google search on the
>name, McAffee was the only response and it was dated the 7th. I find this
>interesting!

Very interesting, since McAfee never sent out an alert about it.  However, 
McAfee seems to use their E-mail virus alert system mostly to advertise new 
products, they seem to put most of their new money into marketing.

>What kind of notification is sent if it is a BANEXT rejection if any? Is
>there a text file I need to create for it?

It sends out the \IMail\Declude\BANnotify.eml file.
 -Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread John Tolmachoff

Here is the text of the notice I use:

From: postmaster@%LOCALHOST%
To: %MAILFROM%,%ALLRECIPS%,postmaster@%LOCALHOST%
Subject: Delivery of e-mail with an attachment has failed!

Delivery Failed: %ALLRECIPS%

The mail server for %LOCALHOST% does not accept E-mail with attachments
that contain the %BANEXT% extension.

This policy is in place for the security and safety of our clients. If
you need help or have questions or comments regarding this policy,
please fill out our on-line report form at:
http://support.reliance.net/help.html.

Original message follows:

%HEADERS%

Hope this helps.

John Tolmachoff
IT Manager, Network Engineer
RelianceSoft, Inc.
Fullerton, CA  92835
www.reliancesoft.com


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> One more reason to have a banned extension policy in place.

I do now! I had avoided it as there are legitimate reasons to send
certain
files. But the good of the many...

It got by F-Prot 3.12a/Declude 1.53 and when I did a Google search on
the
name, McAffee was the only response and it was dated the 7th. I find
this
interesting!

What kind of notification is sent if it is a BANEXT rejection if any? Is
there a text file I need to create for it?

Sheldon


Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partnerhttp://www.tenforward.com
Ten Forward Communications360-457-9023
Nationwide access with neighborhood support!

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Re: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


>It seems to also use the MIME header exploit.  This is such a common virus
>virus element, maybe Declude should have an option to handle it.

Let me ask you this:  Do you know of any resource that gives enough detail 
that Declude could check for such an exploit?

We have samples of viruses that use it, but without knowing the full 
details of the exploit, it's quite possible that future viruses could come 
out that take advantage of the exploit in a different way.
-Scott

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RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Thomas E. Hall

I was wondering does F-Prot have daily downloadable virus updates?  If not
what virus software do you recommend if you want to schedule jobs to run to
make sure that we have the latest updates.  Or should we use 2 virus
checkers.


Thank you,

Thomas Hall, Internet Coordinator
Madison County Government


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Re: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Sheldon Koehler

> I was wondering does F-Prot have daily downloadable virus updates?  If not
> what virus software do you recommend if you want to schedule jobs to run
to
> make sure that we have the latest updates.  Or should we use 2 virus
> checkers.

If you are using the DOS version, there are scripts available to check and
download automatically. I use the Windows version and have it's own
scheduler set to check every 6 hours for updates. They just do not have an
update yet...

Sheldon


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RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Paul Ingram

Sheldon,
Does the windows updater work for you? I should say reliably?  I have
found it does don't seem to work at all. I do use the scripts for the
server and that works. F-Prot 3.12a

~Paul~


> If you are using the DOS version, there are scripts available to check
and
> download automatically. I use the Windows version and have it's own
> scheduler set to check every 6 hours for updates. They just do not
have an
> update yet...
> 
> Sheldon

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RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Thomas E. Hall

We are using scripts to update F-Prot.  Does the windows F-Prot update run
as a service or do you have to leave the server logged in for it to run?

-Thomas

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Sheldon,
Does the windows updater work for you? I should say reliably?  I have
found it does don't seem to work at all. I do use the scripts for the
server and that works. F-Prot 3.12a

~Paul~


> If you are using the DOS version, there are scripts available to check
and
> download automatically. I use the Windows version and have it's own
> scheduler set to check every 6 hours for updates. They just do not
have an
> update yet...
>
> Sheldon

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Re: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Sheldon Koehler

> Does the windows updater work for you? I should say reliably?  I have
> found it does don't seem to work at all. I do use the scripts for the
> server and that works. F-Prot 3.12a

I have had no problems with the Windows updater at all. We purchased the
site license and I have found it to be more reliable on many of our
computers here. I did find one of our older P90's not updating. but when I
upgraded it, it did start working just fine.

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RE: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread Scott MacLean

At 12:24 PM 6/12/2002, Thomas E. Hall wrote:
I was wondering does F-Prot have
daily downloadable virus updates?  If not
what virus software do you recommend if you want to schedule jobs to run
to
make sure that we have the latest updates.  Or should we use 2
virus
checkers.
I don't remember who originally wrote this and posted it to the list, but
I've been using it ever since, and it works perfectly. Updates both
F-Prot program files and the virus updates, and checks for updates every
30 minutes. I've modified it a bit, so YMMV.
rem Update of F-Prot update program to eliminate redundant
downloads.
rem Requires info-zip's unzip.exe 5.42
www.info-zip.org
rem Requires gnu wget, links to Windows binaries at
www.wget.org or
www.cygwin.com
rem Will keep the last three versions of f-prot on disk. 
SETLOCAL
:Set Path Info
SET fprotdrv=c:
SET fprotdir=\program files\fsi\F-Prot
SET DownloadDir=%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\Zips
:Set Unzip Command Info
SET unzipcmd=UNZIP -o -u
SET unziptail=-x f-prot.pif -d
"%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\Updates"
:Set FTP Info
SET wgetcmd=c:\winnt\wget.exe 
SET BaseURL=ftp://ftp.f-prot.com/pub
:CheckDirectories
md "%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%"
md "%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\Updates"
md "%DownloadDir%"
if not exist "%DownloadDir%" goto end
:FTPDownload
%wgetcmd% -t 2 -N -nv -P "%DownloadDir%" %BaseURL%/fp-3*.zip
%BaseURL%/fp-def.zip %BaseURL%/macrdef2.zip  2>&1 | find
"in 0 files"
if errorlevel 1 goto UnzipFiles
goto end 
:UnzipFiles
SET T=0
for /F %%I in ('dir "%DownloadDir%\fp-3*.zip" /a-d-s /b /o:-d')
do call :DoNewVersion "%DownloadDir%\%%I"
%unzipcmd% "%DownloadDir%\fp-def.zip" %unziptail%
%unzipcmd% "%DownloadDir%\macrdef2.zip" %unziptail%
copy /y "%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\Updates\*.def"
"%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%"
copy /y "%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\Updates\*.asc"
"%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%"
copy /y "%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\Updates\*.exe"
"%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%"
:Cleanup 
attrib -r "%DownloadDir%\*.zip"
if exist "%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\f-prot.pif" del
"%fprotdrv%%fprotdir%\f-prot.pif"
goto end
:DoNewVersion
SET /a T = 1+%T%
if %T% EQU 1 %unzipcmd% %1 %unziptail%
if %T% LEQ 3 goto :DoNewVersion_exit
if exist %1 del /F %1  
:DoNewVersion_exit
echo %T%
goto :EOF
:END
ENDLOCAL


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Re: [Declude.Virus] W32/Frethem-Fam

2002-06-12 Thread R. Scott Perry


> > Let me ask you this:  Do you know of any resource that gives enough detail
> > that Declude could check for such an exploit?
> >
>
>Can't say I've looked very hard, that's what I have you for.
>
>Don't take this as any sort of a complaint, just thinking out loud.  Some of
>the others are catching at least some variations as a generic exploit, if
>you could come up with something, even if not perfect, I'd probably use it.

Not a problem; I just figured I'd check.  It's something we definitely are 
considering (in fact, even before it was brought up, I had the MIME headers 
of one of the viruses using this exploit loaded on a machine here), but 
we're still in the research stage.
 -Scott

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