Re: Left-Join extremely slow in comparison to Inner-Join. How to tune Derby?

2011-01-05 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Hello, Witold:

thanks for your response. It might be the same issue and I will try to 
follow the same suggestions that Bryan gave you.

FYI: I am using Derby 10.6.2.1

If any of the Derby folks can shed some additional light onto this, it 
would be greatly appreciated,

Pavel.



From:
Witold Szczerba 
To:
Derby Discussion 
Date:
01/05/2011 01:37 PM
Subject:
Re: Left-Join extremely slow in comparison to Inner-Join. How to tune 
Derby?



Hi there,
Look at this:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-4595
Do you think it might be the same case I had some time ago?
There were some changes in the code in Jun/2010, maybe you have older
version or the change did not resolved the problem...

The funny thing is that the Apache Derby guys changed the issue type
from bug to improvement - so, for them, a query which should last 2 or
3 seconds is executing like 1 hour, fetching entire database, is just
a 'feature' :/

Regards,
Witold Szczerba






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Re: Left-Join extremely slow in comparison to Inner-Join. How to tune Derby?

2011-01-05 Thread Witold Szczerba
Hi there,
Look at this:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-4595
Do you think it might be the same case I had some time ago?
There were some changes in the code in Jun/2010, maybe you have older
version or the change did not resolved the problem...

The funny thing is that the Apache Derby guys changed the issue type
from bug to improvement - so, for them, a query which should last 2 or
3 seconds is executing like 1 hour, fetching entire database, is just
a 'feature' :/

Regards,
Witold Szczerba


Fw: Left-Join extremely slow in comparison to Inner-Join. How to tune Derby?

2011-01-05 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
In addition, what seems to be odd is that fetching the data takes most of 
the time from the total time.
For example (snapshot from Aqua Data Studio retrieving the data from the 
Derby in-memory table):



Would it be considered normal to take over 2 minutes to fetch 2,357 
records?

Here is the same snapshot when the Left-Join was converted to the 
Inner-Join:






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From:
Pavel Bortnovskiy/JEFCO
To:
"Derby Discussion" 
Date:
01/05/2011 12:04 PM
Subject:
Left-Join extremely slow in comparison to Inner-Join. How to tune Derby?


Hello, all:

I am using Derby as an in-memory DB. While executing a complex query 
(which contains a union and several left-joins), we discovered that this 
query with a left join would take about 3.5 mins to execute and fetch the 
data, whereas the same query with the left join replaced with the inner 
join would take just 30 seconds.

What tools or API is available at our disposal to tune the in-memory 
Derby, to see its execution plan, to try to figure out why it is taking 
such an extraordinary time to fetch about 2,500-3000 records.

I also noticed that by running the same query over and over, the time to 
execute and fetch seems to be slowly creeping up as well - it started with 
2.5 mins, then grew to 3 mins and now it's almost 4 mins.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

Pavel.




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Left-Join extremely slow in comparison to Inner-Join. How to tune Derby?

2011-01-05 Thread Pavel Bortnovskiy
Hello, all:

I am using Derby as an in-memory DB. While executing a complex query 
(which contains a union and several left-joins), we discovered that this 
query with a left join would take about 3.5 mins to execute and fetch the 
data, whereas the same query with the left join replaced with the inner 
join would take just 30 seconds.

What tools or API is available at our disposal to tune the in-memory 
Derby, to see its execution plan, to try to figure out why it is taking 
such an extraordinary time to fetch about 2,500-3000 records.

I also noticed that by running the same query over and over, the time to 
execute and fetch seems to be slowly creeping up as well - it started with 
2.5 mins, then grew to 3 mins and now it's almost 4 mins.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

Pavel.




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