Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi all,

Le 14/10/2013 23:01, Mateusz Zasuwik a écrit :
> Hey
> 
> Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is
> here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I
> showed him new LibreOffice, he ask "what is purpose of these small icons?"
> 
> Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and
> intuitive!

I do not dislike the current global design of the StartCenter. I think
it will be usable if several technical and UX problems are solved:

1/ keyboard navigation through recent used files should be easier:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70449

2/ make the module icons more visible and understandable, give them a
bigger size:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70460

3/ repair the thumbnails generator in the master :
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70428

Best regards.
JBF

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[libreoffice-design] Re: Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Daniel Hulse
Your friend ought to help the design team out. That's a good design.

I'm pretty sure the current design has already been put together, though, so
it might be better to modify the current one.

This would be  my modifictation   , based off of
the original proposal by Mirek2. (Sorry if it's a bit rough. There of course
would have to be a New formula and New database icon in the New row, also,
and they could probably be sorted better.) 

Anyway, it would keep it from looking totally empty, and would make it much
more intuitive to actually create a new document. Another good thing would
be to include the more information and help buttons like are there
currently.
-Daniel



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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Jan Holesovsky wrote (10-10-13 11:40)


It would be great to provide default graphics for the case there is no
recent document yet - can you please start the call for designs & come
up with something beautiful & helpful that we could use inside the huge
white area? :-)


Looks like a lovely opportunity to have some basic guide/first 
steps/welcome linked from that place with some graphics/placeholders 
(documentation front pages).

A great welcome for the user when starting for the first time!


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Cor Nouws

Mateusz Zasuwik wrote (14-10-13 23:01)
\

Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is


It is when empty.
Therefore the request from Kendy for something else.


here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I
showed him new LibreOffice, he ask "what is purpose of these small icons?"


Yep...


Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and
intuitive!

I asked him for better mockup and he did this.

http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg


+1

And I think it's usefull too for a next step, the file menu!

Michael, something intersting?

Cheers,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
2013/10/14 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 

> Relax, take it easy. The screenshot is OBVIOUSLY not the final look.
> Thanks for your mock-up, though: I like it :-)
>


Not so obvious for me. Actually I don't understand why the first version of
new Start Center is so unintuitive and ugly . There should be some
guidelines for developer programming interface.

If first alpha is coming with the beginning of month, will developers make
with it?

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I have to say i really like it and its very similar to that of microsoft
office and what microsoft works used to be.


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Mateusz Zasuwik wrote:

> Hey
>
> Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is
> here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I
> showed him new LibreOffice, he ask "what is purpose of these small icons?"
>
> Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and
> intuitive!
>
> I asked him for better mockup and he did this.
>
> http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread Mateusz Zasuwik
Hey

Guys, are you serious? Currently Start Center for LO 4.2 is horrible! Is
here any guy from UX Team? My friend is professional designer and when I
showed him new LibreOffice, he ask "what is purpose of these small icons?"

Please reject this awful interface and do something more attractive and
intuitive!

I asked him for better mockup and he did this.

http://i.imgur.com/iJcSVxU.jpg

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Welcome graphics for the Startcenter in 4.2

2013-10-14 Thread klaus-jürgen weghorn ol

Hi Mirek, Kendy, *,
Am 13.10.2013 18:05, schrieb Mirek M.:

[...]


Given that this picture would appear only if no document has been opened, I
don't see the use of allowing customization of the upfront graphic. (That
would just encourage people NOT to open any documents -- that's not what we
want.) I'd also like to avoid fancy graphics, as it'd be a stark difference
to go from no recent files with a fancy graphic to a single thumbnail of a
recent file and the rest of the window blank and, as per our minimalism
principle, I'd like to keep our UI as simple as possible.

As I understand it, it's not a wallpaper Kendy's looking for, but rather an
indicator that there are no recent files to display.


Ahh, ok, something more like that:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/1/12/Sc42-nrd-v1-1.png

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