[libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [tdf-members] Season Logo/Banner for Website

2015-12-06 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 12/03/2015 12:20 PM, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote:

2015-12-03 14:08 GMT-03:00 Italo Vignoli :


We would like to add a seasonal logo/banner to the website. Does anyone
have an idea/mockup to suggest?

Ideally, the logo/banner should be in place during next week, as the end
of the year is approaching quickly.

Thanks, Italo




What about something like this

http://s21.postimg.org/hrs3gu45z/xmas_balls.jpg

with LibreOffice logo replacing the ice star

and a seasonal message



How about using this type of image, in the/a green background instead of 
the "green ball".

The "white" background is transparent, if you look at it via GIMP.

http://lungstrom.com/lo5-christmas-tree.png

I took the LibreOffice logo from startup image for LO 5.x.x and the tree 
from openclipart.org.


Maybe some graphic artist can make a "better version", but this is an 
idea for the "look and feel" of the image.





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RE: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers

2015-12-06 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt
Hi Roland,

sure it's good to have some mockups as a discussion guide, but best would be if 
you could work directly on the layout files.
They are created with Glade. If you need help with 
that, please come to the #libreoffice-design IRC channel.

Please keep in mind that some parts of the sidebar's properties section are 
shared between apps (Writer, Impress, Draw, Calc).
Also we prefer not to completely redesign the sidebar (and UI in general), but 
gradually improve it.

Thanks
Samuel

From: Roland Spitzlinger [mailto:r.spitzlin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 2:54 PM
To: Samuel Mehrbrodt 
Cc: design@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers

Hi Samuel,

I love to get my hands dirty. Just give me some time and I'll send you some 
mockups. Obviously I believe the numbers sidebar is really well crafted, 
meaning, I will base my work on that. If that's too close to the apple UI, 
please let me know.
Apart from that I tend to follow the excellent elementary 
HIG.

Best wishes,
Roland

Am 04.12.2015 um 14:37 schrieb Samuel Mehrbrodt 
>:


Hi Roland,

thanks for the screenshots.
Is there a chance you could get your hands dirty and try to improve the sidebar 
in calc yourself? We could lend you a hand if you like.

Or do you have specific suggestions, what should be improved? If you do not 
plan to work on things yourself, it would most likely be picked up by someone 
if you break your suggestions down into small, concrete enhancement suggestions 
filed in bugzilla.

Thanks a lot
Samuel

Von: Roland Spitzlinger 
>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. November 2015 16:05
An: Samuel Mehrbrodt
Cc: design@global.libreoffice.org
Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers

Hi Samuel,

thanx for your reply.
I put the screenshots in the following folder:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B5CZFCSGix1ebmx2VlRSZWZkLXM=sharing

Please also note the links to the individual screenshots below.

best wishes,
roland

Am 26.11.2015 um 15:46 schrieb Samuel Mehrbrodt 
>:


Hi Roland,

many thanks for your suggestions, they are good points.

Unfortunately this mailing list has stripped off your attachments - could you 
please upload them somewhere else and post links to them?

Thanks
Samuel

Von: Roland Spitzlinger 
>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. November 2015 23:37
An: design@global.libreoffice.org
Betreff: [libreoffice-design] libre office vs numbers

hello everyone,

first of all thanx for your great effort!
I have been using libre office for many years and it has improved a lot since 
then.

I have been working on user interfaces in the past and I just thought you might 
appreciate a few thoughts that could potentially help improve the libre office 
UI. In fact, I have done a little comparison of libre office calc and numbers 
(osx). Based on that, here are a few suggestions:

divide options into managable groups. do not show all options at the same time.
instead organize them in sections
work with tabs
avoid strong color contrasts. the human eye isn't made for it.
avoid black on white background, use grey shades instead (dark grey on light 
grey is highly recommended)
avoid bold text in strong colors such as black and red
avoid colors in general, unless used to highlight something. this helps the 
user to focus on the important matters.
only use colors to highlight the current state of a text/cell (e.g. the 
checkbox "Tausendertrennzeichen" should be in color if it is active for the 
marked cell, otherwise it should be grey)
do use colors for color options, obviously.
combine related buttons in groups (see e.g. the button group "Ausrichtung") 
this way the UI is less clustered and easier to comprehend.
hide unnecessary design elements. as we all know, good design is as little 
design as possible.
only show indicators when they are actually needed (see the two screenshots 
with color option below)
avoid additional external formating menus with ever more options. instead work 
with tabs and control buttons within the sidebar framework (see last screenshot 
below)
avoid scrollbars
if they seem necessary, then this is a sign that there is already too much 
information
if a scrollbar is needed, hide it until the user actually starts scrolling

hope this is of any help. If you have any questions go ahaid.

In any case, thanx again for your effort!

best wishes,
roland


comparison of formating panels:
numbers vs. libre office
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5CZFCSGix1eMkNnNV9qMUtEcW8




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