Re: [libreoffice-design] New LanguageTool Remote grammar checker component settings menu design

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

I think the explanatory labels are great! Just be sure that all UI copy
follows the guidelines (w.r.t. sentence- vs. Title-case, acronym
capitalization and curly apostrophes) at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/UIWriting

I’d ditch the colon at the end of the heading label “LanguageTool API
Settings”. Also, I’d shorten the privacy policy link — the word “here” is
unnecessary, for instance.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Suggestion: Change LibreOffice Icon

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On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 3:01 AM Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
 wrote:
> What we want to work on is in this visual proposal by one of our
> talented Indonesian contributors:
> https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/37942

My personal hope is that TDF allocates something to fund Bayu's work
so that he completes a full suite of application icons as well as MIME
type icons, because currently we improperly reuse app icons to
represent both our applications and files, which has been detrimental
to our brand.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Suggestion: Change LibreOffice Icon

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Useless to base a new identity in just adding text. That won't work in
small sizes, like the system dock or taskbar, and in general is the
very opposite of a flexible visual identity.
So no.

What we want to work on is in this visual proposal by one of our
talented Indonesian contributors:
https://t.me/LibreOfficeDesign/37942

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Branding for release 7

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I wish we stopped featuring numbers in our artwork altogether. It's as if
Google Chrome used different artwork in every single new release.

El dom., 8 dic. 2019 6:05 PM, Franklin Weng 
escribió:

>
> Heiko Tietze 於 2019/11/20 下午5:06 寫道:
> > Some food for thought: Seven is a prime number, seen as a lucky number
> but also as the opposite in Asia,
>
> Uh... AFAIK in Taiwan we're not against 7.  For Chinese the unlucky
> number is 4 because the pronunciation of 4 is near "dead", so in
> hospitals and hotels even car plate number people tend to avoid any 4 in
> them.
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Fwd: Colibre SVG issues

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Bug reports go to Bugzilla.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Agenda for the design/UX meeting 2018-Aug-08

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[...]
> >  * Bundle the new "EB Garamond" font with LibreOffice

I would really prefer that we didn’t add it if there are no reasons
beyond document compatibility with proprietary office applications.
Let us remind ourselves that we bundle fonts that are really necessary
for language support and document interoperability. This proposal is
just bloating bells and whistles.

Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Agenda for the design meeting 2018-Apr-25

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2018-04-25 5:10 GMT-05:00 Regina Henschel :
> Please do not use OOXML for the Microsoft Versions of the format. That would
> be confusing. OOXML should only be used for strict, ISO-standardized Office
> Open XML.

How exactly is this confusing? We already denote the ISO-standardized
version of OOXML with the “Strict” moniker, don’t we?

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Minutes of the design meeting 2018-Jan-31

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Pedro, I think you’ve been here enough time to realize that, as many
similar libre software projects, this project is volunteer-driven, and
that waving around your pet bugs without giving some support
(financial or otherwise) yourself is borderline offensive for those
who are contributing their free time… People are free to choose what
they will work on… And no, the age of a bug does not automatically
increase its importance. Just sayin’.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Weekly design hangout at Oct-07

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2016-10-07 13:19 GMT-05:00 Yousuf Philips :

> On 10/07/2016 01:40 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote:
>
>> On 07/10/2016 10:41, Heiko Tietze wrote:
>>
>>  * Drop 'Human' icon theme (Samuel)
>>>+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/29537/
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>
> Would suggest holding back on 'Human' as some distros still use it (ubuntu
> mate, elementary os) and removing 'Oxygen', as i was intending to remove it.
>

Does elementary OS even include LibreOffice by default? I was under the
impression they loathed our software; they even used it in their HIG as an
example of what "not to do" at some point.

I would say remove both Human and Oxygen, because we can't look to support
every single Linux distro under the sun by ourselves. Linux Mint has a
custom icon theme that's not bundled upstream: if Mint can maintain their
own icon theme, why can't elementary OS do that as well?

Adolfo

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Re: Fwd: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Remote Icons

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> How can I get them approved and shipped?

As in the old days, my friend: just send a Gerrit patch 

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Home for the breeze icon theme

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2016-07-31 13:04 GMT-05:00 kainz.a :

> Hi,
>
> For your information uri inform me before he closed the repository and the
> kde stuff on github wasn't up to date.
>
> But yes in general the png files isn't useful for new contributions and the
> origin file is the important stuff. You wouldn't save exe files. The cpp
> files are the needed.


I think you could maintain your own, separate GitHub repo, Andreas. It
doesn’t need to be “officially sanctioned by LibreOffice” =)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Mime Type Icons Redesign Proposal

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Paulo:

Welcome back to LibreOffice! I personally love your proposed icons,
but I think that a separate set of *document* icons (i.e., regular
documents, not templates) is also needed. A gripe that I always had
with the current LibreOffice icons is that document icons are not
visually different from the application icons.

Parabéns!
Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Remove SplashScreen

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2015-10-05 10:11 GMT-05:00 Italo Vignoli :
> Our coverage is less than one fourth of Microsoft Office coverage, which
> makes it weak in relation with the objective of making all
> Windows/Office users aware of LibreOffice (most of the coverage derives
> from the media relations activity under my responsibility, and I know
> that we will start to be visible only when we will be able to reach at
> least 50% of Microsoft coverage).
>
> Well, normal users do like the new splash screen

Which is a weak excuse for shoving work that was not properly agreed upon.

> I do not think that the splash screen is obsolete, at  least for the
> normal user. Microsoft Office has a splash screen, so we should have one
> (if Microsoft keeps the splash screen, there must be a reason

I am not contributing my time with LibreOffice to become a minion of theirs.
If there might be a reason why they are keeping certain UI elements,
it’s probably neglect. Many of the Office programs are in maintenance
mode (Publisher and Access, for instance, had their biggest changes in
Office 2010).

You know, there is a program that should have a splash screen, based
on the argument of startup time. It’s called Evolution. It takes
nearly half a minute to start in my machine. But I suspect that it
would only introduce even more complexity to its startup process.
LibreOffice is much faster than that, but you cannot improve on that
if you are to keep “configuration switches” and stuff a “normal user”
(to use your term) won’t touch. Paradoxically.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Remove SplashScreen

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Kill the splash screen with fire! Branding? Come on, we have plenty.

2015-10-05 3:55 GMT-05:00 Yousuf 'Jay' Philips :
> Was pondering some more on when would be the longest time the splash screen
> would appear and that would be when a new user profile is generated the
> first time a user runs libreoffice or after they deleted the user profile
> directory.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Remove SplashScreen

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Italo, our branding is pretty clear in LibreOffice’s Start Center
(also one of the first things users see), icons, and About screen. I
don’t know why you think is “weak” (whatever that means) as we’ve got
coverage in many of the world’s news sources.

(Look, I have a reason to call our branding “weak”: TDF decided to
unilaterally put there a meaningless, in-your-face number “5”, and
throw away our brand colors, without consulting designers who
submitted designs.)

If we’re to keep an obsolete UI paradign such as the splash screen, it
should at least be minimal, as Mirek suggested years ago [1]

[1]: https://clickortap.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/citrus-splash.png?w=150=84

2015-10-05 9:27 GMT-05:00 Italo Vignoli <it...@libreoffice.org>:
> Are you kidding? We need LibreOffice branding as much we need drinking
> water as human beings. Our brand, for a number of reasons, including the
> fact tha we do not have enough brand exposure, is a weak one in most
> geographies. If you do not like the splash screen, you can switch it off
> (as explained in the thread). Normal end users MUST see the splash
> screen (do you have an idea of how many LibreOffice users still call the
> software OpenOffice?).
>
> On 05/10/2015 16:21, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos wrote:
>> Kill the splash screen with fire! Branding? Come on, we have plenty.
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Improving Impress' UX

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2015-06-10 8:29 GMT-05:00 Pedro Rosmaninho mota.pr...@gmail.com:
 If other people don't contribute then their input is worth less.

This jewel is pure bullshit.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Design Session at 2015-13-06 at 1pm UTC about CMIS integration

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

Are design minutes being saved in Google documents now?

2015-03-11 3:52 GMT-06:00 Jay Philips ypha...@gmail.com:
 We had a fun design session last friday for the redesign of the Entries
 tab of the Index/Table of Contents dialog, and details of that
 discussion and a new mockup can be found in this google docs document -
 http://bit.ly/1b1wvb3

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[libreoffice-design] Leaving a link here…

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

Since the weekly meeting process seems to be different now (no pad, no
meeting minutes, no open documents where one can leave notes for the
rest) and I’m not able to join calls because of other obligations... I
just wanted to leave here some screenshots for the online services
integration on the newly released beta of Office 2015 for Mac, which
you may or may not use for “prior art” analyses and design proposals.

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/word_mac_save_locations.png
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/word_mac_saving_in_cloud.png

(You should know GDocs as you’re using it know makes me feel excluded.
Hopefully somebody will care)

Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-design] GSOC 2015

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2015-02-04 15:00 GMT-06:00 Jay Philips ypha...@gmail.com:
 Yes LibreOffice does participate in GSOC and Kendy does mentor in it and

Jay, in order for any project to participate in a GSoC it first has to
be approved each year by Google. Also, each mentor and chooses what
project they will mentor, if at all.

We have to see first if Google approves us this year ;)

Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

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2014-12-23 13:12 GMT-06:00 Jean-Francois Nifenecker
jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net:
 OMG! Did you *actually* have a look a MS templates? They CAN'T (sorry for
 shouting) be used as they are in any other context than an american one.

I love your sarcasm.

Can’t we stop seeing issues where there aren’t any? At least have a
look at the submissions first, instead of spreading FUD about this
initiative.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Resizability of the dialogs

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2014-12-10 3:52 GMT-06:00 Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com:
 In the meantime, I'll re-enable it for the Hyperlink dialog, and the
 dialogs that Miguel Angel mentioned - hope that's OK?

Please do :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] New templates contest

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Hi Charles-H.,

it is still mandatory that people release their work to the public
domain, as it was the case in the last contest? That was my only gripe
at the time, as IMHO it reduced both the quantity and quality of the
work received.

 LibreOffice needs both new and fresh document templates . Whether they are
 directly embedded and are shipped with LibreOffice or are available on our
 templates website is not really a topic

I do think it’s a topic :-) Right now the Templates site is quite
unusable, so I would pursue integrating new templates directly into
the downloaded product.

Also, we need templates not only for Impress, but for Writer as well —
we received none for Writer the last time.

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[libreoffice-design] Re: Resizability of the dialogs

[Adolfo Jayme Barrientos]

Jan,

I have also seen a report
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86891) in which a user
had the LibreOffice file picking dialog appearing too wide, could not
resize it, and I had never made that one non-resizable (my only
modification to that one dialog was making it modal, Jay’s
suggestion).

I don’t think re-enabling resizing would be “the” fix for that.
Granted, it could be seen by some users as a regression, but the truth
is that many of those dialogs had resizability by mistake (it’s a
Glade default) but it just contributed to LibreOffice looking
unfinished: resizing, in most of the cases, did not help to actually
see more content, it just made the window uglier. (Exceptions are: the
Special Character, File picker, and Autocorrect dialogs, among a few
others).

So far, the “problematic” dialogs have been those of recent .ui
conversion, aren’t they? I am aware of the problem appearing sometimes
in the Hyperlink and fpicker dialogs, right? Are you aware of others?

A correct fix would be to find the thing in the old profiles that’s
botching the dialog size, and remove it on migration. Perhaps Caolán,
if he finds a little time, could help. If it proves too
time-consuming, then you can re-enable resizing, although that should
be a last-resort method.

Adolfo

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Re: [libreoffice-design] New Color Picker

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2014-09-30 12:06 GMT-05:00 Hillar Liiv liivhil...@gmail.com:
 For first we need to give more consistent look for it:
 1. same size tiles for recent and palette colors;
 2. changing white background to dialog background color;
 3. using icon for color picker etc.

Why don’t you ping the development list instead?

Also, please check out the Design project in Redmine
(redmine.documentfoundation.org) if you haven’t already.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Toolbar find , buttons without icons .

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Mariano: those items are meant to be text, not icons. Otherwise I do
not think they would be as clear.

PS: The design team is moving to redmine.documentfoundation.org (and
this mailing list is being deprecated), please register there to
participate if you haven't done so yet.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] VCL example

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On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Lucio Gómez psico...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello. I'm trying to learn a little about the VCL library. Someone could
 give me a small example of how to use, or an example of how to make a
 buttonor a box.

You seem to think that VCL is like Qt. It is not. And this is not the
correct mailing list to ask questions about software development.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] VCL example

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On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:
 http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

 That's the list you want.

But in any case, Lucio, if you just want to create a mockup of a
window, you can do so with GNOME’s Glade, which is the format
LibreOffice uses.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles

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On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 * At smaller sizes, the thumbnails are much harder to make out. Take a look

I don't think there's an actual need to make out things. You have
the name of the document as well, don't you? And for anything bigger
you can open a separate window (like GNOME Sushi).

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Start Center Niggles

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Sorry for contradicting you, but I absolutely hate those huge
previews, these are so inefficient, wasting an insane amount of space
(I do not own a big monitor, y'know). Shouldn't these adapt to smaller
screens, and netbooks?

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Start Center Niggles

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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 * The Create label should be clearly set apart from clickable buttons. I
 suggest making it uppercase and bold.

I disagree with this one. I hate SCREAMING in UIs (and exclamation
marks as well, BTW). We shouldn’t follow Office/Visual Studio 2013 on
making any labels hard to read with uppercase letters. Bold will do
fine, no need for “CREATE”.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Start Center Niggles

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On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 See
 http://www.essentialmac.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Mac-OS-X-Lion-Finder.jpg
 for example. Do the headers in the sidebar scream, in your opinion?

IMHO it’s unnecessary highlighting. I mean, when giving instructions
you’d say “… go to the section ‘DEVICES’ and pick a location”. A user
could interpret the all-caps as “don’t be dumb and look at the right
section”. ;-) Also, the indentation helps to distingish the labels
from the other items.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Default Writer Template

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Hi Ahmad, the list doesn't seem to accept attachments -- please upload
it elsewhere and post a link to it here :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] HIG

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Mirek wrote:
 Could we please use elementary's HIG [1], which has the GNOME
 HIG as back-up, as our go-to HIG from now on?

In your opinion, what are the main benefits that this change may bring
to LibreOffice? I’m not sure if elementary HIG completely fits
LibreOffice – for instance, I don’t completely like elementary’s
childish writing tone (but I do like other aspects such as their
recommendation on brevity).

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Per-toolbar icon styles

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I'm super excited for this change, Mirek! =)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Behavioural questions

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On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Oskar Olsson oso...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, I have never use mailing lists before. Are there any guidelines on
 how to use them? I tried to respond to mails I got but I don't know how
 many people I am actually talking to.

Of course: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette

In GMail you can tell who are you sending your message to. And the
Reply to All button is useful:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/6585?hl=enref_topic=1669018

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Experimental new LibreOffice UI

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On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Wolfgang Keller felip...@gmx.net wrote:
 Dysfunctional webcrap resembling that Google Apps garbage.

I woulnd’t expect to take your point seriously, because your short
message only consisted of using harsh words to try to diminish that UI
concept, instead of providing a solid rationale ;-)


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Pack of icons for LibreOffice 4.0

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On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Mariano  Gaudiners
marianocordobar...@gmail.com wrote:
 What  license   i  must use   ?
 ¿ LGPL  version  3.0 ?
 So ,  you can use and modify  this   icons  for LibreOffice  .

IANAL but I think you can’t relicense to LGPL something that was
derived from an GPL work. I think you should ask Mattieu James (a.k.a.
Tiheum, the author of Faenza) and ask him if he’s fine relicensing his
icon theme to something compatible to LGPL. Also, IIRC the LibreOffice
designers prefer—for the sake of ease—things licensed CC-BY-SA/PD.

Once that’s cleared up, It’d be great if the Faenza icon theme could
finally be shipped in LibreOffice.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] We recommend LibreOffice banner

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On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com wrote:
 Improvements welcome. :)

Hey Astron, I hope you don't mind adding Spanish and Catalan:

EN / ES / CA
Created with / Creado con / Creat amb
We use / Nosotros usamos / Nosaltres usem
I use / Yo uso / Jo ús

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Re: [libreoffice-design] need branding approval[?] for the flier/brochure

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On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...] (The problem is that the colours we
 have on our website now have nothing to do with the defined
 LibreOffice colours – a situation which isn't great, but well, it has
 arisen – partly because the new website was designed without any input
 from the design list.)

If the new website's coders did ask this list before designing,
wouldn't we limited their creativity, enforcing the old-style palette?
(Yes, I dig the new shade of green and never liked LibreOffice's
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat Icons Wiki Page

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2013/3/5 Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sa:
 True but I've never seen them used on our wiki so I didn't know they were 
 used until now.

We should use them. And indent every comment with : and sign them with
—. That’s a good practice to teach to everyone, IMHO :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Flat Icons Wiki Page

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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sa wrote:
 I didn't know where to add it, but discussions of the icons themselves should 
 go on the wiki page somewhere.

MediaWiki developers thought of that, and created the talk pages. :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Impress Remote Icon

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2013/2/28 Issa Alkurtass ialkurt...@kacst.edu.sa:
 No need to redo it, I think the xcf file will suffice :)

I uploaded a basic SVG to
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Impress_remote_source.svg, on
which only the lettering can be edited, as I still used my raster
background. I’ll upload a proper SVG (entirely made in Inkscape)
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Re: [libreoffice-design] Bug report / feature suggestion

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On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Wim Schwerdtner
schwerdt...@aurelius-forschung.de wrote:
 […] I really wonder, that the developers of LO concentrate on
 many minor issues like bullet points in the note section, but
 neglect the central ones that are neccessary to use LO at all. […]

Everyone thinks their bug is more important than the others’ :-)

I wouldn’t worry, your bug will be eventually fixed when one guy finds the time.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Remote Icon

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On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks excellent! Let's ship this.
 Astron or Thorsten, could you take care of commiting this?

Good work eeveryone!

Thorsten, bear with me a little, I just started to create the app
banner with this new icon! Once I finish it, I'll send it to you.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Impress Remote Icon

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On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do you think?

I have nothing more to add apart from what Axel points out. Thanks for
the SVG by the way, I was about to create a store promo banner for the
app.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] New Branding

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 As Alex doesn't have the time to ready his proposal for implementation,
 we're going with Maxim Darak's green proposal.

I agree with the results of the poll. I still think that the color
could be a little more lively, but it looks good nonetheless.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [libreoffice-website] LibreOffice 4.0 airport ad source

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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 Also, unless I am mistaken, it may not support all languages ... maybe
 someone from design could chime in on this?

Vegur was updated to support more languages, see the designer's
homepage at dotcolon.net (Chinese). LibreOffice uses an old version of
Vegur.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] LO 4 banner idea

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On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Daniel A. Rodriguez
daniel.armando.rodrig...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do you think?

I think it’s very original. Nice idea!

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Re: [libreoffice-design]

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On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:53 AM, Maximi89 maxim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, what do the One Note?

OneNote is a notetaking application. It’s useful to take quick notes,
minutes, etc., while in a class, conference… It has competitors, and
there are alternatives in Linux: Everpad and NeverNote are the most
popular.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding poll

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Honestly, wth with this voting system? :)

+1: Mateus.m.luna Clear_Full_Official (make colors more vivid, please)
+1: G Sparks (I like the typographic motif as well, typeface choice
could be improved)
+1: Maxim Darák (almost perfect)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Rebranding result

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On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's what the proposed branding looks like in use:
 https://plus.google.com/photos/102673546895803839652/albums/5838256472940469953

I think it looks great. It's simpler and effective. There's room for
improvement, of course, but I don't get why would one be worried
about this choice.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] 4.0 Branding and Out of Scope Designs

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On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:00 AM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol
o...@sophia-louise.de wrote:
 Proposal by Maxim Darák:
 Start screen can't be modified this way (it's past UI freeze)

At least the splash screen can be used unmodified? I quite liked it.
And it would be easy to adapt the start center image to the current
UI.

(The Design team should then call for branding proposals much early in
the development cycle, to avoid the UI Freeze.)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: 4.0 Branding and Out of Scope Designs

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On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 LOL! The idea is to do a re-branding and be creative without even changing
 colours or the position of elements?
 You can exclude my proposal. As I said, I'm not a designer so I couldn't
 care less.

You shouldn't be angry (¡el que se enoja pierde! :-) but I agree that
the brand guidelines should be less strict. A thing to improve for
4.1? :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Fwd: Re: A new old branding?

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On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote:
 I agree with you that with professional people personas may take a back seat
 to functionality, but to the other larger group who use our software and the
 younger set, functionality includes the look and feel of their software as
 if defines them ... no matter how shallow a function you may think it is.

+1000

Obviously Design doesn’t care, but there are people who like Personas
—as do I—, this is a huge selling point for LibreOffice, and we’re
finally not looking like Win95 (as perceived by the trolls our product
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Re: [libreoffice-design] A new old branding?

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On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Alexander Wilms
alexander.wi...@zoho.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 on the Deviantart page of Harvey Cabaguio someone mentioned an old design
 submission for the original LibreOffice brand:
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/5/5f/AndyFitzsimon_ArtworkProposal_splashes.png

 It also kind of fits the minimalist swiss style, maybe the gradients should
 be a bit flatter. Would you mind if I ask the Designer (former Novell, now
 Red Hat employer) if he would license it under LGPLv3/MPL and use it as
 basis for a submission?

I support this motion! Also, anyone has had a look at the LibreOffice
branding created for OpenSUSE? (Example:
http://www.muktware.com/sites/default/files/images/applications/opensSuse-Libreoffice.jpg
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Re: [libreoffice-design] The Tango Save Icon (Cabinet v/ Diskette) Under Discussion Again

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On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Stefan Knorr (Astron)
heinzless...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess we need to discuss reverting to the diskette icon... What do you 
 think?

A diskette in “Real Life™” may be obsolete, but it’s still a current
and valid metaphor for saving, much more than a cabinet.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Add a “close search” button to the search bar

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On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Santiago 473 santiago...@live.com wrote:

 Issue: LibreOffice implements additional menus by default as usually 
 temporary tool bars instead of separate windows.

 Therefore you can open the search bar by choosing “Edit - Find” or pressing 
 “STRG + F” but there is no intuitive and user-friendly way to close the 
 search bar afterwards, like the close button of Firefox's search bar.

 Solution: Add a “close search” button to the search bar similar to the page 
 preview's “close preview” button.


 I've also added a ticket for this issue as part of the “LibreOffice 4.0 Test 
 Marathon”:

 https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=58526

You can close the toolbar by pressing Esc while it's focused, but
apparently this is not discoverable?

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Android Remote icon

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On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:29 AM, Stefan Knorr heinzless...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does this look better/worse? Is it understandable? Something missing/too
 much?

It's decent. I can imagine it being in Google Play and in a phone.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice cover photo - Google+

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On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 I am sorry... but why is it relevant? LibreOffice is the community. There's
 no  LibreOffice and the community.

I think he meant the Foundation and the community. These are not the
same, and shouldn't have the same logo.

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Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice cover photo - Google+

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 But why? Isn't the foundation supposed to represent the community? :-)

OK, let's say the Foundation and the community are one thing, and
LibreOffice other thing (the Product). Why should the first thing
share its logo with the latter? :)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Icons in menus by default

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 Someone in the issue says that it's very unusual in Mac.
 That is something I've no idea about.
 Others?


 That's true.
 We could forego the icons on the Mac, then, as they also have command
 search, thus there's less need to look through the menus efficiently.

Ubuntu has the HUD. No need for icons there too?

I honestly don't think that icons will make menus more or less usable.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Cleaning up the default toolbars

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+10

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Sean White runicpala...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do we have to make the large icons default to bring in the new design
 scheme.  It doesn't add any value and with the current layout of toolbars
 actually make the window look ugly on all systems bar Gnome 3 where
 EVERYTHING is huge and thus looks equally ugly.

 Jokes about Gnome 3 aside, it is still a fact that only IT is making large
 things default and on every-other OS (even Win8) the normal sized icons
 look perfectly fine and and actually come with the added bonus of being
 able to fit more of a toolbar in a confined space such as your average
 laptop screen.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Let's tell Google to support ODF

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I’m not sure, isn’t that a bit too much political? Don’t think it’s
appropriate for the official G+ page. Also, it’s kind of unrelated to
design.

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 What do you think about trying to make the tag #WeWantODFSupport trend on
 Google+?
 Here is a post I shared:
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/105818069612511054258/posts/ZT1hbCmamsZ ,
 linking to
 http://www.muktware.com/4529/why-google-killing-open-document-formats#.UJw5C-5sz7M,
 where Google's lack of ODF support is discussed in depth.
 Should I post something similar on the LibreOffice Design Google+ page?
 Perhaps the same text + Share if you agree -- let's make this tag trend so
 Google takes notice.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Article on a new interface

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Well, where is he? Has he sent an email to this list?

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Charles-H. Schulz
charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 Well, I would hope this designer would join our team:
 http://www.iloveubuntu.net/creative-developer-presents-interesting-libreoffice-interface-concept-sustained-gtk-3-based-real

 Best,
 Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Infobar

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MS Office 2010 also have infobars, for example, in Access and when
viewing documents in safe mode:
http://www.edutechnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/image8.png

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Alexander Wilms
alexander.wi...@zoho.com wrote:
 Sounds great :) Do you know whether there's an equivalent for KDE, Mac
 OS and Windows?


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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: NOT shipping the Progress template + misc

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I think you're spoiling a few things regarding to fonts :) :

 2. The Liberation Fonts.

 (Yes I know, it's preferable to open another thread as the subject changes
 but it is closely tied).

 First of all, you have to know that Liberation fonts are just free copy of
 MS fonts shipped with MS Office created in order to solve license problems.
 Liberation Sans  -- Arial
 Liberation Serif -- Times New Roman
 Liberation Mono  -- Courrier New

Investigate a bit about typography and tell me if the Liberation
typefaces are copies or rip-offs of Microsoft core fonts.

 I asked last week on the Dev IRC channel, why we cannot use other fonts than
 Liberation when these are bundled with LibO for age (e.g. DejaVu).
 Two opposite opinions are emerging from devs.

 - The first one, we have to keep Liberation as default font is order to
 keep the same metrics as MS Office. This avoids most of portability problems
 and differences in page layouts when using files on both office suites.

 I don't agree with this. LibO has to take its own dev way and not simply
 continue to develop itself by copying MS.

You may not agree, but we're not talking about LibreOffice taking its
own way, that's simply ridiculous. We're talking about people's
documents. You may hate Microsoft, but LibreOffice needs to maintain
interoperatibility.

 In such a conservative pov, to go any further in the MS metrics, why don't
 you take the Calibri free copy from Google: Droid Sans?

Droid Sans isn't a copy of Calibri, *at all*. Droid fonts are a design
by Steve Matteson, as well as the Liberation fonts, commissioned by
Red Hat.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Looking for a new splash screen

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I’ve submitted my first draft, but I made it in GIMP. Why is SVG
required, if not to make raster images from it? I can upload my source
.xcf, though, and later I can redo it in Inkscape.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] LibreOffice Design: Windows look

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I like your concept a lot, but it currently looks too childish with
all these strong shadows and thick borders. Something more subtle
would be fine. Also, I don’t understand why the apps have that big
icon in the top left corner. It is meant to be a button? If so, what
it does?

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On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Shady shady...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since we are spreaking a lot about the new LibreOffice Look for Windows, I
 find this the rignt moment to reveal my progress. With this Design I think
 that LO will look up to what other softwares of the same category are. I was
 focused on the use of the proper color themes of the LO tools witch gives a
 unique identity and environment. You can use my work as a base, change
 whatever is unsuitable and add whatever is missing. I made the mockup for LO
 Writer and Calc, with these you can guiess what Impress and the other should
 look like, I can make them if there is the need and the time to.

 Sorry for the thickness of LO Clac sheet, I didn't mean to make it as so but
 that's the best I counld do, also I used the previous Windows look Example
 so I didn't consider the Aero effect, but that's not hard to implement in
 this design, I may do it later on.

 Special thanks to Mirek2 for his Windows look Example it is a good base to
 conceive your design.

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Playground/Windows_look Here  is
 my work, tell me what you think about it.
 Thank you.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Logo for the LibreOffice Conference 2012 in Berlin

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Hello,

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:47 AM, Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi all,

 the LibreOffice conference will be held this autumn in Berlin. We need a
 logo for this conference, that could be used on the website and other
 marketing material. The proposals for our first LibreOffice conference
 in Paris could be found here:
 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_conference_logo

 Maybe it is a bit more difficult to create a logo for Berlin because
 there is no Eiffel Tower ;-)

For logo creators: I’d suggest not using clichés like the Eiffel Tower
this time. Create something less generic and more meaningful. And
please don’t use Helvetica, just Vegur.

 Regards,
 Andreas

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Call for proposals: New Document

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I also don’t think that is necessary to include LibreOffice’s logo
into the New Document icon.

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Bold and Italic icons

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OK, seems to win uppercase. Please try to use a font that makes the
bold and italic icons different enough to be recognised, I'd recommend
a black weight for the bold icon and a true, single-story italic for
the other icon (this is the reason why I don't like Vegur, it is
incomplete, does not have italics and IMO is just a Myriad rip-off).

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 We're nearing the end of our discussion deadline.
 Let's vote on whether to use lowercase [1] or uppercase [2] letters in
 Inkscape. The argument for lowercase letters is that bold/italic versions
 might be easier to differentiate. The arguments for uppercase letters are
 that they're crisper, fitting more in line with our design goals, and used
 more commonly (including by our current set). Keep in mind that the
 decision will impact forthcoming icons concerning text, such as Text Box,
 Underline, Cross-through, Over-line, Font, Superscript, Subscript, Text
 Color, etc.

 Based on this thread, the current votes are:
 Uppercase: 3 (me, Kévin, Sveinn)
 Lowercase: 1 (Adolfo)

 If I've misinterpreted your vote, please speak up, and if you haven't
 voted, please reply with your vote.
 Thanks. :)

 [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis_2.png
 [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Emphasis1b.png

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Icons: Testing the Design Process

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Why abandon the classic symbol paradigm? I don’t think that the
proposed symbols are recognizable in a glance anymore.

On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Mirek M. maz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 I've put up a design process on the wiki page (@
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Flat_icon_set).
 Please go take a look at it.

 I also submitted rough drafts for three icons: Paste, Cut, and Copy.
 They're unlike all Cut and Copy icons I've seen so far -- instead of
 showing scissors and stacks of papers, they use the same symbols as moving
 an copying with files (an arrow and a plus icon).

 According to the drafted design process, the icons will be marked
 approved if nobody answers to this e-mail within a week, so please
 respond, comment, critique, iterate, so that we can begin to do this.

 Thanks. :)

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: New icon set

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Monochrome icons are the way to go. Look[1], even Microsoft has
introduced them into Visual Studio (a toolbar-based UI app) and it
lloks just great.

[1]: 
http://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-file.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-49-52-metablogapi/1464.image3_5F00_0ECF28C7.png

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Re: [libreoffice-design] Re-doing the installer

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Just a little observation: I think the question Would you like to
associate Office files (doc, [...]) needs to be simplified with a
checkbox, removing the (*) Yes ( ) No. Something like:

 [x] Associate document files with LibreOffice

(Note that I also removed the Office files part, because that can be
misinterpreted as infringing Office trademark of Microsoft.

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On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Shawn Thompson superfox...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember proposing this back when, but now I think we should re-consider it.

 Anyway, I'm using XAML and VB to mock up a potential redesign for the
 LibreOffice installer. My idea for interfacing with it would be to
 have a wrapper for the files (though this time, maybe a 7-Zip one more
 like Firefox), which would include the MSI and the files for this
 program. Then this would launch and manage whatever is needed to
 actually make the MSI file do its thing.

 http://i.imgur.com/mG6jj.png

 I personally think that improving and simplifying the installation
 experience would be a good way to help further increase our
 accessibility to new users.

 Anyone have ideas or input?

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