[Design] Introductary Materials and the WIki WAS: Some notes from today's meeting

2016-02-02 Thread Michel, Stephen J.
>- The top priority user story is someone coming to the site and
  understanding what it is.
>- Introductory material is still up for discussion -- making sure the
  introduction is as effective as possible is (now and always) a very
  high priority.

I'm currently working on *organizing* the material that's currently on the 
wiki. My work is currently local but if anyone's interested in helping out I 
can make it available online. I have some thoughts on how we should organize 
the material, but I'll wait on hashing them out; there are a couple unresolved 
questions on my mind.

>- mray's design opinion: we should not use wiki pages to display
>  public info pages (for the general visitor community).
>- yet, the wiki is primarily intended for stuff that's available to
>  the general visitor community -- not as engaged as people who have
>  created accounts, etc.
>- Should there be a wiki on the site?
>- What form should that wiki take?

From this as well as my own work, I'm currently leaning towards NO -- at least 
not in the form of a traditional wiki. Internal docs can move to OpenProject or 
Seafile or whatever organizational tools each team is using (or stay on a wiki 
if that's what the team decides to use). Introductory materials can be moved to 
normal html web pages. However, I think that to maximize involvement we should 
have a way for people to submit changes for those web pages; my own first 
contribution to snowdrift was improving some wording on a wiki page.

Given some sources that suggest a wiki may actually discourage participation 
(because people feel they're not knowledgeable enough and are afraid to 
overwrite old content), I'm a fan of providing two ways to edit an 
informational page:

1. Pull request to git.gnu.io, or wherever we end up permanently hosting our 
site code
2. A "suggest edits" button on each page which functions like a wiki-style edit 
button, but instead creates a pull request from their edits. That way even 
those unfamiliar with git can contribute and become involved.
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Re: [Design] shirt colors

2016-01-06 Thread Michel, Stephen J.
I don't think we need two light designs that are both cool, so I think we 
should NOT offer Heather Gray with blue ink (cool). Cool Blue looks really good 
and is our only non-grayscale option, so I think we should offer it. If 
necessary we can increase the price of Cool Blue for ladies, or slightly 
increase the price of all the shirts to cover the increased cost. I think we 
should offer a warm option, which makes Warm Gray the only option.

Therefore, I propose we offer three options:

1. (Cool) White with blue ink
2. Cool Blue with white ink
3. Warm Gray with white ink

Further, I propose we should NOT link to the other colors.

Is everyone good with this decision and ready to move on?
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Re: [Design] shirt colors

2016-01-05 Thread Michel, Stephen J.
Proposal:

1. Pick two colors, and two colors only.
2. Both colors must be available in both Mens and Womens.
3. One must be warm, and one must be cool.
4. One must be dark, one must be light.

In short, offer Cool Blue and Warm Grey colors (if I haven't gotten all the 
constraints mixed up -- can someone confirm that these two colors fit my 4 
above constraints?), and be done with it. We've spent far too much effort on 
this already, IMO.

From: Design [design-boun...@lists.snowdrift.coop] on behalf of Bryan Richter 
[b...@chreekat.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 14:26
To: design@lists.snowdrift.coop
Subject: Re: [Design] shirt colors

There seems to have been a major foulup in communication about shirt
colors.

Diana chose shirt colors and got consensus on those colors. Some of
the colors she chose are on backorder for ladies's sizes, but they're
still available. Then, those colors were scrapped entirely and
different ones were added to the newly-created /merchandise page. That
page also unhelpfully links to the entire available palette, which is
also contrary to the original plan (paradox of choice, dilution of
brand).

There were a few emails in this thread that were, unfortunately, too
long and unfocused for me to have time to read. Was it one of those
that discussed these changes?

Are we all satisfied with the current state of affairs?

I basically didn't want to think about this anymore, except now I'm
choosing a shirt color for myself and don't feel comfortable choosing
something that very few other people will ever wear.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 11:18:21AM +, William Hale (Salt) wrote:
> Would someone start a new thread with mock-ups of the final options?
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:20:33 -0800
> Diana Connolly  wrote:
>
> > Quite simply, all we need now is the final graphics in a form I can
> > hand off to Bluemill, and a choice of sizes and colors for at least
> > 24 shirts. Remember, shirt color changes cost nothing.
> >
> > If people would like to start sending me their choices, I will
> > compile a list.
> >
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