Re: [Design-team] Fedora Wallpaper Extra

[angella inzinga]

 I feel the pink iteration of the wallpaper is more for 'tweenies' - kids
about 12-13 years old. But every time you stick pink/cartoonish under my
nose, that's my general attitude. The blue one is nice and rich, very deep.
So, +1 for blue.

As far as sexism in female geared marketing, yes, its really hard when every
thing you look at is pink, (there are even protein supplements geared
towards women- it's amazingly sad). But I've always looked at it as being
more offensive than the simplistic reduction of guy advertising you see
every time some deodorant body spray comes out with a new ad campaign.

Angie
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Re: [Design-team] (no subject)

[angella inzinga]

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:

> On 09/09/2009 05:01 PM, twoho...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> > Greetings everyone.  I'm new and ready to create icons.  Where do I
>
> Hello,
>
> > start?  Are there standards I need to know and pixel sizes, colours and
> > any other rules I need to be aware of?  Thanks for your assistance.
>
> Your interest if for the Echo set?
> http://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/
>
> If so, the guidelines are available at
> http://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines
>
> If you are interested on working on something like Mist, then upstream
> (GNOME) is the best place.
>
>
In addition to that, there's also our request list. Lots of projects out
there are looking for icon or graphics work
https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1

as for guidelines, this group pointed me towards the Tango Icon theme
guidelines. It has a pallet, size information and nice work flow
suggestions.
http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
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Re: [Design-team] photos: the mosaic and the fountains

[angella inzinga]

Love that as an idea. I think the underwater mosaic could be beautiful *and*
practical as a wallpaper.

Angie

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:

> I have no idea which architectural style is this, but yesterday evening
> (around the "golden hour"[1]) when passing near a group of fountains in
> the center of my city I noticed the mosaic and i *had to* take some
> photos ans share them with the rest of the gang:
>
> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/mosaic/
>
> So i'm not sure they fit the desired style, not sure they will give
> anybody ideas, but I think sharing them may be cool.
>
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_hour_%28photography%29
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Re: [Design-team] Solang ticket

[angella inzinga]

>
> Plus, because you are making an icon, you'll get best results when
> following tango guidelines (it even has suggested workflow videos):
> http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines
>
> Hope this helps as well :-)
> Martin
>


Holy mother of all things concise and well organized! Thanks for the link.

That's a Thanks to you both sooo much. For some reason, I blew past our wiki
on logo design thinking it was only for redesigning Fedora echo icon work
w.o thinking to apply guidelines to any FOSS project! I hope to have a re
edited version up soon!
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Re: [Design-team] Solang ticket

[angella inzinga]

2009/7/14 Máirín Duffy 

> Hi Angie!
>
> On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 08:31 -0500, angella inzinga wrote:
> > I am working with the Solang group for a help->about page, and icons.
> > They requested simple and stylish, and a few weeks ago I gave them a
> > few designs to pick from (I was really just trying to refine what
> > direction 'simple and stylish' they wanted to go). The wiki I read for
> > this group asks that logo work get sent into the community for review,
> > so here's what I hope to submit. Topbar 2 in a 48X48. Topbar 128 is
> > bigger, clearer. The last one is the help->about image.
>
> I really like your work! The one concern I have is with your color
> palette - you may want to modify it to match the default
> gnome-icon-theme better. I think if you modify the colors to be a little
> bit softer and maybe use dark grey rather than black outlines (and round
> the corners a bit as you suggested) with a white inner outline and make
> the polaroid white areas a bit of a light grey so the white outline
> stands out - I think that'll make the icons fit in a bit better with the
> rest of Fedora's icons. I've attached an example of what I mean. (I
> didn't modify the colors at all but I tried to make them more
> gnome-icon-theme like otherwise)
> >
> > They chose the crisp and flat polaroid design, not a more distressed
> > one. I still think I need to soften the corners, tho. But other than
> > that I think they are OK? I don't know, this is my first attempt at
> > logo design. All files have a .svg and a .gif, but are terribly
> > disorganized at the moment and I just attached whatever I found first.
> > Some constructive feedback would be awesome. (including if there is a
> > better way you like to have files sent around???)
>
> Attaching files to your email is fine as these are relatively small
> files.
>
> Some things I noticed about your svg -
>
> - it says it's 128 but it's not, it's more like 1000x700 or something
> like that
>
> - a lot of your shapes were not aligned to the pixel grid or at integer
> sizes. you want to make sure your shapes aren't floating point height or
> width and that they are at integer (.000) x and y coordinates so they
> align to the pixel grid and don't get blurry. this is especially
> important for smaller icon sizes.
>
> - a lot of your shapes did not have strokes but instead were layered
> fill shapes. using strokes tends to be a lot easier to work with.
>
> Hope this helps - thanks for your work!
>
> ~m
>
>
Thanks! I'm really not terribly used to Inksape, so this really really
helps!! I'll play around with the .svg's!

Angie
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Re: [Design-team] Constantine theme mockup

[angella inzinga]

How do we handle it when an artist gives us explicit permission to use their
art, regardless of the licensing? Every time I've approached someone about
using/altering a photo with a CC license they are thrilled, and I can credit
them in context. Seeing as we can't stamp 'photo by: " on our wallpaper do
we need to ask them to agree to a non attribution use? Is this in the wiki
and I just not see it?

Angie


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 03:19:11PM -0430, María Leandro wrote:
> > This are the photos I use. I first ask permission to use them
> > (positively) but the images already had a good licence [1]
> >
> > [1] http://www.sxc.hu/help/7_2
> >
> > http://www.sxc.hu/photo/786380
> >
> > http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1182234
> >
> > I have the xcf source... but is a 69Mb file :S
>
> I'm not so sure about that licensing.  Here's what the acutal license
> text includes:
>
> "* SELLING AND REDISTRIBUTION OF THE IMAGE (INDIVIDUALLY OR ALONG WITH
> OTHER IMAGES) IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN! DO NOT SHARE THE IMAGE WITH
> OTHERS!"
>
> This clause makes the images non-usable for Fedora, unless the author
> specifically makes them available to us under a truly free license.
> There are other clauses in the license for these images that are
> problems too, such as requiring the recipient to restrict how they are
> used.  Unfortunately "royalty-free" is not automatically free enough.
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[Design-team] background idea

[angella inzinga]

I was thinking while the literal moisac idea is beautiful, abstracting the
idea can make for really deep background that can be made less distracting.
Here's a texture/color layer I've been playing around with. (as its self
it's a bit distracting, but layered over solid it really is pretty). I will
waive CC requirements for Fedora use.

big image at 
flickr

Angie
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Re: [Design-team] Constatine Brainstorming

[angella inzinga]

I've been toying with a coin-imagery based idea of the campgate. I like a
gate idea because we can incorporate a lot of symbolism for unifying 2
sides, and transition (idea I'm currently playing with is a barely visible
binary going through the gate, on the other side turning into the 4
foundations, art and music and so on) and the idea of a beacon. I'm hoping
to have something up to post soon. Here's some pictures of the coins, and a
quick blurb:

http://www.beastcoins.com/Topical/Architecture/Campgate.htm

angie

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Samuele Storari wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've studied a little Constantine the Emperor and I think maybe we can work
> on the Roman Art Style and not only havin focus on the mosaic, there're the
> basrelief or the Monumental sketch or the Bas-relief decoreting the
> Constantine Column
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Column_of_Constantine
>
> let me know if this ideas may work.
>
> Samuele
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Re: [Design-team] Design Team Planet (need your quick help!)

[angella inzinga]

I could but I'd just be directing people to where they can make a request.
If there is a repisitory for projects that need to be done, I didn't see it
when I checked out the new request page. Would we be asking new people to
fill out a request to be assigned a project? Sorry if I was unclear the
first time. I only gave it a quick glance, but I didn't see anywhere where
someone could pick up a project unless they are on the inside track and can
see the requests.

Angie
2009/7/1 Máirín Duffy 

> On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 13:59 -0500, angella inzinga wrote:
> > I'm new, so this is the first thing that struck me about this. If you
> > go to the fedora projects main page and hit the 'join team' and then
> > click on the cute artist/designer, choose artist you get sent here:
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
> >
> > (this is how I found you all)
> >
> > at the bottom of that page where instructions are for joining the
> > team, it tasks new people with going to the old page and picking up
> > one of the projects.
> >
> > While I love the idea of a tracker like this, someone who knows their
> > way around may have to assign new recruits a project, or some sort of
> > *something* will have to be put up for noobs.
>
>
> Thanks for pointing that out. Would you be willing to help us out by
> updating the steps to point to the design queue?
>
> I don't think it's a good idea to avoid changes for the better simply
> for the sake of outdated documentation needing to be updated...
>
> ~m
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Re: [Design-team] Design Team Planet (need your quick help!)

[angella inzinga]

I'm new, so this is the first thing that struck me about this. If you go to
the fedora projects main page and hit the 'join team' and then click on the
cute artist/designer, choose artist you get sent here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
(this is how I found you all)

at the bottom of that page where instructions are for joining the team, it
tasks new people with going to the old page and picking up one of the
projects.

While I love the idea of a tracker like this, someone who knows their way
around may have to assign new recruits a project, or some sort of
*something* will have to be put up for noobs.
Angie
2009/7/1 Máirín Duffy 

> On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 17:38 +0200, Samuele Storari wrote:
> > But, I've got a Blog... :(
>
> Oh okay, I just took names off of planet Fedora since that's all I know
> about.
>
> Follow the instructions Nicu gave if you want to be added. Here's what
> we have so far:
>
> http://planet.fedoraproject.org/design/
>
> ~m
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Re: [Design-team] Constantine

[angella inzinga]

I like the East meets West, that gives us tons of room to work lots of
things in. The coinage from the age has some very big themes- props to the
military (not too useful) and something called a 'camp
gate'.
Gates are nice for East meets west.  Winged Victory in a chariot is also
featured, and it's is nice, but looks like an Christian angel.

Angie

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:28 PM, wonderer  wrote:

>  Hy there,
>
> the mosaic idea combined with something else (no, not the F-Logo, to
> simple...) out of the Constantine-theme maybe?!
> The "east meets west" slogan i also find attractive. Something like a fist
> holding a sword made out of mosaic stones or in steampunk lineart OR a line
> art made of the Constantine head and also out of mosaic stones...
>
> I'm also thinking about a rotating Constantine head, but thats more for the
> wish-list as screensaver ;-)
>
>
> mit freundlichen Grüßen / best regards
> Henrik Heigl - wonde...@fedoraproject.org
>
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>
>
> Joost Elfering schrieb:
>
> the ideas of mosaic are good. but to get all the ideas out in the open we
> need to keep an open mind. try to come with more ideas about what we can use
> from the associations.
>
>
> i think we now have:
> - mosaic
> - the line art from wonderer (
> http://www.uweschmidt.org/files/images/athene.png,
> http://maartenvoetbal.punt.nl/upload/Ajax_logo.jpg)
>
> SO: what can we do with the concept "east meets west"?
>
> I think this is an interesting concept as this was one of the things from
> Constantine I. This can be seen as a connecting two worlds, building
> together.
> some inspirational images:
> http://images.google.ru/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aru%3Aofficial&um=1&newwindow=1&sa=1&q=istanbul+bazaar&btnG=Search+images&aq=f&oq=
>
> yope out.
>
> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Charlie Brej  wrote:
>
>> On 28/06/09 16:56, nicu buculei wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/28/2009 03:20 PM, wonderer wrote:
>>>
 Then I think nicu's mosaic idea sounds good and I suggest that we could
 port this "old" mosaic style and "improve" it to a modern style. Maybe
 some blue-metalic-rendering thingy (I just let this idea flow around
 your heads ;-) ).

>>>
>>> About the implementation, keep in mind that we decided to go with
>>> something vector and simple as a *default* (along with a few more, non
>>> release linked, additional options).
>>>
>>>  Also I had the the "Lion" we had in Fedora11 in my head and now maybe
 another animal ... do we want the same theming or something new?

>>>
>>> We can't go with another animal (no, not even a panda :D), that would be
>>> to close for the previous release.
>>>
>>
>>  Had a bit of a go to see how easy it is to make mosaics and its not that
>> hard. We could make a large mosaic of the many fedora values. I made a
>> little freedom birdie (attached). Like most mosaics, it looks ok but only
>> form a distance so it would have to be a part of a large design.
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Re: [Design-team] Release artwork process

[angella inzinga]

I would include links to previous release years work, not so much for ideas
but for examples of shape/size. I would also add any specifications needed
such as: 'A banner must be n X n pixels in dimension, or a fixed ratio of
that'. This way when designing, noobs like me can know roughly where to
start.

Angie

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:

> On 06/22/2009 02:18 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 14:05 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> >> I see you consciously changed "general audience" to "men audience", I
> >> think is better with "general". Why? because it is not really targeted
> >> at men, just at our general audience (which happens to be>  90% men, but
> >> this just happen to be that way)
> >>
> > Er... that was rather subconscious... Some thought shortcut: "women and
> > children are covered, what remains are men". Feel free to correct it
> > back to the "general audience".
>
> Changed.
> When we label it as "for men", there is an unwanted connotation like
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_men%27s_magazines
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[Design-team] ok, now what?

[angella inzinga]

OK, so I signed up for my first project of the queue. Now that I've got a
few starter ideas, very rough- mostly just testing image direction of the
people who need it. What now? Do we have a place to post images and direct
clients where to go? Or usually just attach to email to client and so on

Thanks!!
Angie
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Re: [Design-team] another new person poking around

[angella inzinga]

Nicu

The page with soipodi listed is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mentors

if you scroll down to "artwork" where Mairin Duffy is listed, it shows it as
one of the areas of expertise.

Thanks for the link, I'll pick something up!!


On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:06 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:

> On 06/16/2009 06:53 AM, angella inzinga wrote:
> > Hi! My name is Angie, I'm in the US. Most of my experience has been in
>
> Hi Angie!
>
> > fine art and in the past few years I've slowly been learning digital
> > art. I was able to ditch the photoshop habit and now use GIMP for the
> > majority of what I do. I'm starting to get a grip on inkscape. I joined
> > the  fedora art flickr community, and I'm housegirl_photos
> > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/30991...@n04/> there.
>
> Our flickr group is not very active, I still hope we will get at some
> point some Free infrastructure for sharing photos. I am also pretty much
> into photography these days, maybe for F12 we will be able to do
> something with photos (at least "Wallpaper Extras").
>
> > As far as applicable skills, in the past I've mostly done fliers and
> > posters for people, and I enjoy that a lot. My GIMP is somewhat strong,
> > and my inkscape is weak but improving. I've never met sodipodi before
> > seeing it mentioned in the art team mentors list of expertise.
>
> This is fine, I think you will learn a lot by playing with some real
> stuff for a clear goal.
>
> BTW: Sodipodi is an old application, the predecessor of Inkscape. Please
> tell me where you saw it listed, so I can remove it.
>
> > I have lots of ideas, many of them very bad. But enough are workable.
> > Most of the time. I try and be gentle when I offer critique, but when
> > receiving it I really prefer to the point honesty. I don't need warm
> > fuzzy from someone who is trying to help make me better.
>
> Don't be afraid to post here about your ideas, I hope we are not that
> scary :p
>
> > As for where to start now that I'm here, it's a huge environment and
> > half the time I"m not even really sure I'm looking in the right
> > places... I would not be offended if anyone points me at something I
> > probably missed, or just flat out tells me what to do until I get my
> > legs under me!
>
> We have a page where people can request work from us, see if you find
> there something interesting to work on:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService
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[Design-team] another new person poking around

[angella inzinga]

Hi! My name is Angie, I'm in the US. Most of my experience has been in fine
art and in the past few years I've slowly been learning digital art. I was
able to ditch the photoshop habit and now use GIMP for the majority of what
I do. I'm starting to get a grip on inkscape. I joined the  fedora art
flickr community, and I'm
housegirl_photosthere.

As far as applicable skills, in the past I've mostly done fliers and posters
for people, and I enjoy that a lot. My GIMP is somewhat strong, and my
inkscape is weak but improving. I've never met sodipodi before seeing it
mentioned in the art team mentors list of expertise.

I have lots of ideas, many of them very bad. But enough are workable. Most
of the time. I try and be gentle when I offer critique, but when receiving
it I really prefer to the point honesty. I don't need warm fuzzy from
someone who is trying to help make me better.

As for where to start now that I'm here, it's a huge environment and half
the time I"m not even really sure I'm looking in the right places... I would
not be offended if anyone points me at something I probably missed, or just
flat out tells me what to do until I get my legs under me!

Thanks so much!
Angie
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