Re: [Design-team] Hi all, this is Matthew Whittle
On 10/18/2012 07:29 PM, Matt Whittle wrote: Again, someone is working on a project. They create a room and have all the necessary windows for that project open in that room. They shut down the computer, come back the next day, teleport to that room and everything is ordered just like they left it. And if someone wants to take a tutorial while learning Gimp, they could create a "learning room" where one wall is Firefox and one is Gimp. Wow okay I'm talking a lot. Thoughts? Just before reading your email I finished some work. I wrote an image editing tutorial (http://howto.nicubunu.ro/gimp-grid/ if you wonder) so I needed: - the image editor, to capture the screenshots; - the file manager, to move around and upload images and other files; - the text editor to write the tutorial and html code; - the web browser to check my progress and results. All of them while: - using the IRC window to chat with the person who asked for the tutorial; - keeping an eye on the email for important business priorities; - get some important *personal* updated from a family member over IM. Please help me understand how a 3D game-like interface would make my work easier in such a scenario. If your answer is: make a work-related room with all work apps on the walls or make a room for each possible work scenario, then you are back at your initial problem, long lists. Your concept is more suited for something like a game console or a home media player, not for a general purpose desktop system. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Hi all, this is Matthew Whittle
On 10/17/2012 04:35 AM, Matt Whittle wrote: If the idea makes organization of windows easier and navigation more pleasant and it increases productivity, the chance of failure will be less. While providing lots of eye candy, the goal of this is to create a spacial user interface. Since humans naturally are spacial (remembering where things are in 3D space) and sorted lists are a little less natural, designing your own house and walking into the GIMP room is more relaxing on the brain then hunting for GIMP in a sorted list. And then if you need to switch from GIMP to Firefox, you just walk out of the GIMP room into the firefox room - which is also less taxing on the brain then locating the firefox window you were on before in the list of open windows in one of your workspaces. Also, if it is delivered in small chunks and each chunk provides something cool, then even if it eventually fails, a lot of progress is made that you can keep. What I mean is, after creating a 3D background we decide against it, well then at least we got a 3D background out of it. That's the top failure: if I want to start Firefox, I want it *now*, with a click of the mouse, not walk from room to room and wait. Also, what if I need both GIMP and Firefox at the same time? say I read a GIMP tutorial and want to try it, or I design a web layout and have to edit and see the page at the same time. I am forced to wander around rooms? An OS (well, a desktop system, which is what we are talking about) should be unobtrusive and let the uses get the job done fast and easy. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Hi all, this is Matthew Whittle
On 10/15/2012 11:32 PM, Matt Whittle wrote: Anyway, I'm on the infrastructure team too. I've been in contact with Martin Sourada who suggested I join the design team. I guess what I would like to do is make sure Fedora likes the idea and the approach and if they have any suggestions before I begin building it. I imagine that the design team could add a great bit of experience and value into the finished product. A team always builds a better product than an individual. It was tried before, then the computers did only 2D graphics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZegWedG-jk4 It was a massive failure then, it would probably be the same now. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Pandas and stuff
On 01/02/2011 04:15 PM, Paul Frields wrote: > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: >> >> Is this the new Fedora mascot? >> >> http://shnurapet.fedorapeople.org/pnd.png > > Just a helpful graphic to personify the user on this page, AFAIK. > While the idea of having a mascot has been tossed around often, it's > never resolved to anyone's satisfaction. There are too many competing > ideas for what the mascot should be, and no clear way to decide which > is "best." Beyond that, it's never even been clear that we need a > mascot, so I fervently hope this thread will not become a renewed > debate about mascots. (In the meantime, I for one enjoy the frequent > panda-related posts from Design team members!) :-) Or in very few words, is not our mascot but our fetish :D -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] request for task
On 12/29/2010 09:13 PM, Manav Garg wrote: > hello fedora design team, Hi Manav > im a new member of this society though i have been using fedora(linux) > for a long time now. so i would like to contribute to the society. i > have knowledge of photoshop and gimp and fairly good at designing. So > please asign me a task so that i can start contributing. > hoping to hear from you as soon as possible With the winter holidays break many of us are away these day, but you can have a look at our requests queue and see if you find something interesting you would like to work on: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fudcon Tempe Shirt
On 12/30/2010 06:14 AM, Ian Weller wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 08:48:25PM -0500, Emily Dirsh wrote: >> I hope everyone had a wonderful midwinter celebration of choice. As >> promised (a while ago, I know, but better late than never) here's the >> -hopefully- penultimate Fudcon Tempe t-shirt design [1] (source - [2]). >> I changed it somewhat based on the feedback I got for the original >> design. The logo is larger, and has a bit more space around it. That >> means the surrounding design is necessarily smaller. blah blah blah. >> Give me your feedback, people! > > This looks awesome. :) Clear space around the logo looks fine IMO. +1 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/23/2010 06:32 AM, Kirk Bridger wrote: > > Fab's comment below seems to be a recurring feeling in this thread that > I want to better understand. Let me intervene here, as I am one of the older people around. > How does using a wallpaper that was not a product of solely this team > [1] result in fear for the future of this team? > > I understand that the wallpaper is a large part of the visual identity > of a Fedora release. I don't understand the idea that the team's very > existence is somehow threatened if each and every release's wallpaper > isn't custom made. Perhaps it is a part of the team history that I'm > unaware of? I may sound dramatic, but during its existence the Design Team was over the time assaulted by the Red Hat Desktop Team by using its control of the default (GNOME Live CD) spin, for example they blocked the icon project developed by our team (Echo, which was "good" while led by one people from RHDT), they removed the Nodoka theme for a plain upstream default (despite opposition from other sub-projects using it for other spins), they forced a new notification theme on everybody without asking and so on. Is also not the first time when they propose changing the wallpaper with something external. Some people here don't buy the "is a one time only thing" and expect to hear later "see how well it worked? let's do it again" > It sounds like if the team doesn't create a wallpaper then it ceases to > provide value to Fedora? This is the very first item our team created (that brought us together) and the most visible of our products. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/22/2010 11:08 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > That looks dangerously similar to what's happening -- I mean the > increased interest in Design-Team membership within the past 48hrs. I > don't feel too good any more (I moved the motion for votes). Only that > we have an 'alien' design to deal with time time around. I want to reiterate this: my *strong* preference is for us to not have to vote but to reach a consensus. We are dangerously on the way for something ugly. And I don't like it takes so long. We need to be back friends and fast. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/22/2010 11:08 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > On 12/22/2010 08:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> We had 4 competing design (Solar, InvinXible, Gears and Neon), nobody >> backed down, it was impossible for the team to get to a consensus for a >> "winner", we had to vote which lead to huge debates, animosity and >> people trying to rig the system (join the team only for the vote). We >> decided we want to be friends and not repeat the experience. >> > That looks dangerously similar to what's happening -- I mean the Only then it was a fight inside the team, not is an inter-teams conflict. I think now is much worse, is about our identity. > increased interest in Design-Team membership within the past 48hrs. I > don't feel too good any more (I moved the motion for votes). Only that > we have an 'alien' design to deal with time time around. I am a sponsor of the Design group in FAS and so far there were no problems there, no new members accepted (ar people applying) since this debate started. > Argh ... *scratching-my-head* ... but Fedora Design team handles design > request other than those internally generated. Why didn't Gnome ask us > to do this through the usual means -- place the request on Trac and > alarm us to do our thing -- to produce a mock-up wallpaper (even link a > sample concept, the stripes). It would have been downstream -> upstream > motion as usual. That would have made this case so much easier. It > would have been a Gnome3 wallpaper ... but a Fedora Design Team work. Do you think any other major distro will happily use a design made by Fedora? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/22/2010 09:11 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > On 12/22/2010 07:44 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Ideally we would NOT vote (yes, I also think this is a bad way to make >> the decision) but decide by consensus. We as a team tried to operate >> this way all along (F10 was a bad exception we don't want to repeat). >> > > I joined after F11. Would be helpful to know what happened at F10. We had 4 competing design (Solar, InvinXible, Gears and Neon), nobody backed down, it was impossible for the team to get to a consensus for a "winner", we had to vote which lead to huge debates, animosity and people trying to rig the system (join the team only for the vote). We decided we want to be friends and not repeat the experience. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/21/2010 11:14 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:32 PM, twohot wrote: >> No. One default can be better than another. Even if you take a >> subjective approach and take a poll. You'll get a clear winner ... >> subjective as the result may appear, you have a more acceptable art. >> It is important to provide a generally accepted winner than a winner >> accepted by a few. > > I think the point is that the Fedora background and the Gnome one are > both likely to be technically excellent backgrounds. Users would get > along fine with either. A choice is more likely to be made on > religious grounds and any poll you take will be heavily influenced by > the opinions of the people polled. There is nothing religious here, is all about identity, marketing and strategy. > If a user choice is really such a horrible UI then someone will have > to decide on a default. The person responsible will risk alienating > some people. The 'losers' will have to swallow their pride and we can > all move on to something that users will actually care about. Ideally we would NOT vote (yes, I also think this is a bad way to make the decision) but decide by consensus. We as a team tried to operate this way all along (F10 was a bad exception we don't want to repeat). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15
On 12/21/2010 05:09 PM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > Just a few points I wanted to get across after reading my backlog in > this thread: > > 1) Fedora's branding, IMHO, isn't close to strong enough. Compared to > Ubuntu we suck in this department. So I see no reason to weaken it > further at all. Mo is right, we do NOT have coffee shop recognition but > that doesn't mean we should give up, bend over (as Nicu put it) and > surrender our efforts - even if it's only for one release. What we NEED > to do, is strengthen our branding and work harder. That is why I believe > we should reject this proposal. The truth is, is was our deliberate decision to make the branding soft to encourage the re-use of our artwork and derivatives. It was also made to avoid possible trademark problems. > 2) I strongly believe this move won't help Gnome. I love what they are > doing with Shell and Gnome 3 but I think they are badly mistaken in > thinking that establishing a default look via a wallpaper (of all > things) across their different distribution channels will strengthen > their brand. Gnome is a desktop, it doesn't have need for a brand in > this respect. What they need is rock-solid software with awesome > features (just think of the Zeitgeist mess for a second) and a > well-planned release. If they spend their time and energy on that it > will benefit them a lot more than us shipping their default wallpaper. > If the time we wasted with this decision would have been spend on > hacking on or thinking about Shell, we and they would already be better off. GNOME is just one piece from the Fedora Desktop (and the Fedora OS for that matters). X.org is another piece, Firefox is another piece and so on. > 3) What Fedora needs most of all is more end-user focus, IMO. I love the > upstream work we are doing, but the areas we need to improve is UI > polish, marketing and quality control. The first two things are areas > where we in the design team can help. We need to develop a strong visual > brand that the Marketing Team can use to propel us to a place on the > desktop alongside people like Ubuntu. We are technically better, let's > also be better in the other areas too! Fully agreed, our desktop is full of flaws and deliberated regressions... in F14 I can't even set my desktop wallpaper to be used ad default, also in GDM??? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/21/2010 04:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > On Tuesday, December 21, 2010 03:15:05 pm Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 12/21/2010 03:39 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: >>> I think this is wrong: >>>> Provide the *better* default. >>> >>> That assumes that there is such a thing as 'better' when really it's >>> subjective. X might be better for Fedora, Y might be better for Gnome >> >> And this is the crux of the debate we have here, do we want the better >> for Fedora or for GNOME. > > And why not to make happy both parties? :) Because this is not possible? The impasse we are in does not have a solution that will please everybody. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/21/2010 03:39 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > I think this is wrong: > >> Provide the *better* default. > > That assumes that there is such a thing as 'better' when really it's > subjective. X might be better for Fedora, Y might be better for Gnome And this is the crux of the debate we have here, do we want the better for Fedora or for GNOME. > and either might be equally good for a user! For the user is important to have an *usable* wallpaper and a smooth experience. >> The default is what the users will see for the first time ans what the >> reviews will feature. It is the first impression and is important. > > If there was a choice then the reviews would notice that, surely? > Would they complain more about being offered a choice than about > someone else's idea of the 'better' background? Yes, asking for that choice would be bad usability and a real reason for us to be shamed. As much as I oppose having the upstream wallpaper as a default, I would agree is better having it instead of asking the user to choose at the wrong time (firstboot). > I would be much more worried about first impressions of things like > Gnome Shell than the background. If we provide Gnome Shell by default, > will anyone even notice the background? The plan from the Desktop people is to have the Shell as a default (if it will be ready in time) and their intention is to use the upstream wallpaper as default to emphasize this. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/21/2010 03:12 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > Then if it's not sufficiently important to ask a user, it probably > isn't worth deliberating further. Firstboot is not the time to ask that many questions, the system is supposed to be able to run, not wait for the user to ask countless questions. > Toss a coin or something? Provide a random default? Provide the *better* default. > I wish there was more focus to package up and present alternative > themes than to provide a single look for each release. I'm thinking As a matter of fact for F14 we produced a set of alternate wallpapers, but there was not enough space on the media for them to be included so they are available only for download: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_Winners > that I get a better experience from choosing and using a WordPress > theme than I do from clicking about on the desktop or visiting > gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org. The default WordPress look is fine. > It's taken for granted that users will replace it though. Shouldn't it > be similar for the desktop? The default is what the users will see for the first time ans what the reviews will feature. It is the first impression and is important. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora 15 GNOME Default Wallpaper
On 12/21/2010 02:33 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> That's an absolutely horrible UI; it would be like asking them at >> boot time what their shell should be, or their mail client, or their >> web browser, or any number of other implementation details that just >> serves to confuse the user and get in the way of them actually logging >> in and doing whatever task they want. It's important to choose good >> defaults, not just punt choices to the user. > > Last time I did an install there was a series of questions / intrusive > UI on the first boot, is it so different? Yes, it is, we already have to many question at firstboot. We should not ask there questions that are trivial or for which the user is not prepared to answer. > As a user I don't really care what the background is, so long as my > subjective impression doesn't find it offensive. If I find it > offensive it's only a few clicks to replace it. > > If I was a Gnome developer I'd probably be keen to see the upstream > presentation preserved; as a user I do find some value in this. > > If I was a Fedora design team member I'd probably be keen for users to > have access to the Fedora version of Gnome 3, equally as a user I > would like to have this option. They still can have the choice in the background selection app and we provide there aa larger pool to choose from, but, and this was the philosophy in GNOME for *years*, is important to have good defaults. > Isn't it crucial to keeping everyone reasonably happy to let the users > have the option to choose from both alternatives, and wouldn't a first > boot question fit that perfectly? No, it would be too much to ask, is a slippery slope, where do we start? ask also about icon themes, cursor look, preferred SMTP server, shoes size etc.? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15
On 12/20/2010 09:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > That's continuity within a release, yes. What I'm saying is that there's > very little continuity of the artwork from release to release *other* than > the color; some are more abstract, some are less, some are sharper (like > F-14), some are more soft-focus (like F-13). We owe a lot of thanks for this to our friends is the RHDT who killed identity projects like Nodoka and Echo and now will completely change the desktop theme to a dark one with F15. > What I intended to say is that given that, I would think that a random > outside observer could look at *any* distro that has a blue, non-photograph > background, and think "hm, must be Fedora", unless they already know which > sort of blue backgrounds Fedora has chosen. It would give me a warm smile seeing this happening. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15
On 12/17/2010 06:01 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > > If the team doing the default Fedora desktop switched and did a GNOME > remix instead this cycle, who would do the default Fedora desktop? > (I'm sure you'd be happy to switch the default to KDE for this cycle, > but... ;-) Yes, if you do a remix, nobody will object on whatever branding you apply to it, as long as it is not our *default* download. > And how would we distinguish between the two different downloads when > presenting options to the user? We'd basically be offering the user the > choice between two different almost identical things because we couldn't > come to a decision. One is the default download, linked practically from everywhere and the other one is listed on the spins page, on the same level with everybody else. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15
On 12/17/2010 03:40 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 09:10 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: >>> >>> I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like >>> the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and >>> keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The >>> issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the >>> GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution. >> >> Can you name at least one other *relevant* distro that will use the same >> background as default? Especially if they know this may be *our* default? > > I'll certainly talk to the OpenSuSE and Debian GNOME maintainers and try > to make convince them to make the same choice. I'm much more likely to > succeed in that request if I have the support of the Fedora design team > already lined up. And I really don't think how we configure our desktop > should be held hostage to getting Debian to do the same thing. Fedora > should be a leader here in working well with upstream. With that you just invalidated your point above about "trying to provide a single look for the GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks", all this "using the upstream" make sense *only* if everybody that matters is doing it. > My proposal is is straightforward: > >Once you select a user and log in to GNOME, you get the GNOME default >background. All other artwork follows normal Fedora procedures. So by default I get a GDM with vertical stripes and when choosing anything else than GNOME Shell (be it the classic panel or Xfce), the background image will change, while if I go to use the Shell, the background stays consistent? That's treating everything else as second-class. > While there are some mockups about how we'd like GDM to look like to > match the rest of GNOME 3 (See > http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell-design/plain/mockups/static/user-selector.png > ) they aren't going to be implemented in this cycle, so there's already > a visual transition between the login screen and the desktop. So we make so much noise for an incomplete desktop. It look to me like GNOME 3 is not ready enough to receive such strong promotion. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GNOME background in Fedora 15
On 12/17/2010 01:54 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > > We want Fedora to be the showcase for GNOME 3 and to be a good example > to other distributions about how to package GNOME 3. So, to go along > with the release splash for Fedora 15, we'd like to make special request > that for this release we use the GNOME background in the Fedora GNOME > packages and hence in the default Fedora desktop. As I understood the opinions in the latest team IRC meeting, blog comments, mailing list discussions and direct contacts with community members, the general opinion is such a move would be detrimental to Fedora's own image and of little use for GNOME promotion. > I want to be clear that this is not in any way saying that we don't like > the Fedora backgrounds ... the recent Fedora backgrounds are great, and > keep on getting cleaner and more professional looking every release. The > issue is rather a question of trying to provide a single look for the > GNOME 3 release rather than a series of looks, one per distribution. Can you name at least one other *relevant* distro that will use the same background as default? Especially if they know this may be *our* default? > * What about the rest of the artwork? > > I think trying to adapt the entire set of artwork in Fedora to have > different looks for different spins is probably more confusing then > anything else. The GNOME default background matches pretty well with > the Fedora look, so it's not going to be jarring to switch to it > after seeing the standard Fedora artwork for boot. Case in point: the GDM background would be the same as the GNOME background or as the general-purpose background used by all the other spins? Which one of the spins will have an inconsistent experience? The same about the Plymouth colors. We are supposed to use *vertical stripes* or not in GRUB, Anaconda, firstboot etc.? How about website identity? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] 14 December 2010 meeting minutes - the wallpaper
On 12/15/2010 11:33 PM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > On 12/15/2010 10:01 PM, wonderer wrote: > >> Wel, I have no access to that directory (can see it, but no uploading >> other then my own dir). >> So my idea could be found at >> http://wonderer.fedorapeople.org/F15_sketch001_wonderer.png >> Hope that helps a bit... > > Thought the 'Fedora Logo' shouldn't be used explicitly on our wallpapers > -- but the concept has potentials (ruminating on the possibilities) This is correct, for easy reuse and to avoid trademark issues we decided against having the logo on wallpapers. This way they are more free. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] New Design Team howto: How to Run a Fedora Design Team Meeting
On 12/14/2010 04:43 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Actually, I'm not going to be around next week and the week after most > likely due to the holidays, so I thought it might be handy to have this > stuff documented in case folks wanted to meet without me since I > normally do this stuffs. :) I have no life so may be around during the holidays, but among us are some real people... do you think is better to put the meetings on pause during the next couple of weeks? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Design team meeting today, 1900 UTC
On 12/07/2010 03:47 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Meeting's on today in #fedora-design at 1900 UTC (2 pm Eastern US). Today I won't make the meeting, sorry. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] FUDcon Tempe shirt
On 12/02/2010 09:48 PM, Emily Dirsh wrote: > > Ooh, I love the idea of a navy shirt! Yeah, the advantage to a > single-color design is it's very easy to adjust the color. ;) Jef > already posted a few variations for a dark background, but of course, I > had to do a few of my own. I've got one that's primarily the light > fedora blue [1] and one that's primarily the dark fedora blue [2] - I > thought just inverting the black to white was a bit too stark, but I did > like leaving in the white background on the boxes. I personally prefer > the light blue variation (I think it would look great on a navy > shirt :)). I'll post my other concept as soon as it's ready! :) > > [2]-http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/FudconTempe/hohokam_dark_blue_on_black.png This one is my preference: i like better the darker blue and the added white provides the needed contrast for the design to stand out. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Flickr style notes for the Design Team
On 11/25/2010 11:41 PM, Jef van Schendel wrote: > As some of you may remember, in Máirín's design-pony post [1] one of the > ideas was to have Flickr-style note-taking for designers to communicate > more efficiently. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, try it out > by rolling your mouse over this image [2]. > > The obvious benefit of this is that even though we're all over the > globe, we can still "point at the screen" and comment on different parts > of a design. I think this would be especially great for UI and web > design. :) > > So I did a little research and it seems that Flickr's implementation is > based on a standard called Fotonotes [3]. Fotonotes also provides a > Javascript client and it's all open source. I even found a MediaWiki > extension [4], but you need to patch MediaWiki to get it to work so I'm > not sure if it's suitable for our own wiki. An example can be found here > [5] though. > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team I have no idea if this can be integrated into MediaWiki, but on a project I am working on we used the jQuery Image Annotation plugin: http://code.google.com/p/jquery-image-annotate/ -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Self Introduction / Fedora startpage
On 11/25/2010 11:03 AM, Vinzenz Vietzke wrote: > Am 25.11.2010 08:27, schrieb Nicu Buculei: >> IIRC, there was no consensus reached. >> An important amount of people have concerns about us relying >> on/promoting a proprietary service. There are also voices saying some >> other projects receive money from Google for something like this. And >> other voices pointing to the little value of having a Google search when >> the default browser (Firefox) has the search box inside its UI. > 1) Switching to some more free/libre web search is a honorable idea, but > IMHO there is no service around which is nearly as stable and as > reliable as google, yahoo, bing and so on. Projects like yacy are good > efforts to offer independent ways of searching but with a start page for > new users we should have an eye on highest reliability. This is the Board decision to make and I remember all those points were raised in that discussion. > 2) That's right. Ubuntu is earning money from Google and even from > Microsoft for placing Bing second on the search field. I think that can > cut both ways: On the one hand you get money for your project and can > "do something good". But on the other hand you leave the noble goals a > bit behind or even sell a piece of your soul. ;-) > At the moment Fedora is promoting Google. But why not take money for that? Apparently we bring them an amount of users little enough to worth money. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Self Introduction / Fedora startpage
On 11/24/2010 10:02 PM, Jef van Schendel wrote: > I made a mockup [1] which has the same content as the current Start > page, but with the redesigned header and footer. Together with Sijis I > put together a working prototype [2]. As you can see we added two RSS > feeds to the page with announcements and Fedora Planet posts. > > Looking back I don't think I announced any of this on the Websites or > Design Team mailing lists, which wasn't smart. After all, if it's not on > the list, it didn't happen. ;) That's so true... :) > - I think the Board has talked before about changing the content and > function of start.fpo, but I can't remember what the consensus was. This > is why I kept the current content and only worked on the appearance > (just like you did). I think that's the best way to go for now. We can > always change it in the future. IIRC, there was no consensus reached. An important amount of people have concerns about us relying on/promoting a proprietary service. There are also voices saying some other projects receive money from Google for something like this. And other voices pointing to the little value of having a Google search when the default browser (Firefox) has the search box inside its UI. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] APNG
On 11/18/2010 03:49 PM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: > On 11/18/2010 02:37 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Usage question: with Fedora, do you know a way to create APNG files? >> (animated PNG) >> >> There is a GIMP plugin, with we don't have packaged >> (http://registry.gimp.org/node/24394) and other than that, I don't know >> any other Free tool for the task. Is possible to create animated GIFs, >> but they don't have alpha transparency, their usability is reduced. > I've used APNG edit, a Firefox addon in the past when I needed to get > some apngs done: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5519/ > There is also Animat, but I haven't tried that > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9820/ Thanks Andreas, read the descriptions, liked Animat better, tried it and it did the job. Didn't cross my mind to try this direction, of using a browser plugin. PS: if you wonder, here is what I wanted to do: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/pacman-wink.png -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
[Design-team] APNG
Usage question: with Fedora, do you know a way to create APNG files? (animated PNG) There is a GIMP plugin, with we don't have packaged (http://registry.gimp.org/node/24394) and other than that, I don't know any other Free tool for the task. Is possible to create animated GIFs, but they don't have alpha transparency, their usability is reduced. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] design-team Digest, Vol 19, Issue 7
On 11/17/2010 01:22 AM, Daniel Fernandez wrote: > Hi, Nicu Buculei, Design Team: Hi > I´m new around here, sorry if not introduced me before but i´m moving, > my name is Daniel Fernandez, i´m from Cuba but I live now in Spain, when Nice to see you here :) > I was in Cuba designing some icons for KDE I had not an internet > connection, just by mail and done a lot of work, so I don´t think that > people around the world in “third world countries” can post to web and > use links and those want to help too (and help everyday) just for love > and passion, I hope someday everyone can accede to the internet, but to > then I will continue using E-mail. Sending email attachments is not forbidden, just discouraged... we still allow attachments, but have a look at the guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#No_attachments Honestly, I find it very difficult to collaborate in such a large community project only using email (and I am a die-hard fan of mailing lists), you will need at times the wiki, the ticketing system, IRC and so on. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] design-team Digest, Vol 19, Issue 7
On 11/16/2010 02:07 PM, em...@bensoftent.com wrote: > Hello Everyone! how do i upload a design to this mailing list. Ideally you would *not* post it as an attachment to the list, we have size limitation in action and is not nice to fill people's inboxes. The best way is to upload it somewhere on the web and just post a link here. If you are an active contributor[1] you can use the hosting space provided by fedorapeople.org (apparently is not the case yet). [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/fedorapeople.org -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [Fwd: Re: Welcome to the "design-team" mailing list
On 11/14/2010 10:04 AM, emeka wrote: > Hello Everyone! I'm Emeka from Nigeria. Would love to be a part of the > design team for Fedora. Will be glad if accepted. Thanks Hello to you! What is your experience? What you like to do? Do you want to try your hand with one of your open requests? see: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/1 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Faenza Fusion Icon theme
On 11/10/2010 03:09 PM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: > 10.11.2010, 20:06, valent.turko...@gmail.com: >> no coments? is it that bad? > > I guess everyone is busy at the moment hoping someone else would reply. Honestly, is an untrusted package from an untrusted location for a different (derivative) distro, why bother? > The blue color looks pretty much like the default blue. So I guess the icon > pack is finished. :) I unzipped the rpm file and looked inside: it has a large number of pretty icons. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Meeting time moving forward - what do you think?
On 11/09/2010 09:32 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > So we can do one of two things with our meeting times starting next > week: > > 1) We can stick to 1900 UTC and shift with winter time. > > 2) We can move to 2000 UTC and avoid shifting with winter time, keeping > the meeting at the same time of day for many of us affected by daylight > savings changes. > > What do you think? For me either way is late enough in the night to not care for the difference. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Design team meeting today, 1900 UTC <= mind the daylight savings change
On 11/09/2010 05:19 PM, Mairin Duffy wrote: > Hey design dudes and divas, > > We're on for a meeting today in #fedora-design. Here's a rough > agenda; if you have interest in any of the items below please feel free > to comment here on list before the meeting: > > - Fedora 14 post-mortem - how did it go? How can we improve for Fedora > 15? Any great ideas for Fedora 15? > > - Fedora RPG > > - Installer/Anaconda usability review& redesign project for F15 > > - Open floor I propose we talk also about FUDCon T-shirts (Tempe, Panama, EMEA) > The meeting will be in #fedora-design on irc.freenode.net, 1900 UTC. > (which is now 4 PM US Eastern time, btw! So it is an hour later for > Americans!) For me is one hour *earlier*. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Tempe Fudcon T-shirt design
On 11/08/2010 06:15 PM, Daniel Drummond wrote: > > I am unfamiliar with the Fedora way of doing things, I apologise. Here > is one design I have thought about. It is a modified version of the > flag of Arizona, replacing the star with the Fedora logo. This could be > placed on the back of the T-shirt, or the front, with the FUDcon Tempe > logo printed on the other side. As I don't yet have the official Fedora > logo or FUDcon logo, it is just a draft. > > I like the blue of the flag, and the rays are representing the radiance > of Fedora and it's values. I have a small reservation - I am not sure > how Arizonians would react to this - I know many Americans have strong > feelings about flags. I find it too close to the design from 2008, used both in Boston (http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/FUDcon/FUDcon%20Boston%202008/T-Shirts/) and Brno (http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/day1/159-img_4162.jpg). I raised the same concern for the 2011 Panama FUDCon (https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/167) BTW, why are we working on different concepts for each FUDCon during a year? I liked *a lot* how in 2008 and 2009 we had a general concept which was customized for the location (USA and Europe). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Tempe Fudcon T-shirt design
On 11/08/2010 02:52 PM, Jef van Schendel wrote: > 2010/11/8 Nicu Buculei : > > The blog post provided an important number of resources and pointers, if > you need something specific ask for it. Or post your > concept/sketch/work-in-progress so we can provide feedback. > Hi Nicu, > > I asked him to post here mainly so Máirín could send him the logos. :) And you should know Mo would probably answer pointing to the l...@fp.o address, which is the correct place to request them :) If not using the queue, then me or you could equally provide the files... but that will be losing track of the requests. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Tempe Fudcon T-shirt design
On 11/05/2010 10:47 PM, Daniel Drummond wrote: > > I volunteered to design a T-shirt for the Tempe Fudcon at > http://jefsblog.wordpress.com/2010/11/04/fedora-design-bounty-design-the-fudcon-tempe-2011-t-shirt/ > and was advised to post to this list in order to obtain the necessary > artwork and whatever else I need. I am particularly looking for the > Fudcon logo, and the fedora symbol in svg format. The blog post provided an important number of resources and pointers, if you need something specific ask for it. Or post your concept/sketch/work-in-progress so we can provide feedback. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] no meeting this week, party instead
On 11/02/2010 05:19 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Time to celebrate, let's meet up at the release party in #fedora-social > during our regular meeting time (1900 UTC today) :) At that time I will be with the local community partying in real life :D -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] zomgPANDAS
On 10/27/2010 03:10 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: > Hehe, I made some panda goodies. > This one is for Mo: http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/bedtime-panda.png > source: http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/panda.svg I said on the IRC meeting I tried my own panda and hated it enough to not want to show but what the heck, here is it: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/panda-nicu-01.svg Still want to make another one... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] fudcon tempe shirts
On 10/27/2010 10:40 AM, diego montiel wrote: > ok, here is already corrected with fewer colors, a blue sun and black shirt In case you are not familiar with our previous designs, here are a few examples: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2008brno/day1/159-img_4162.jpg http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2009berlin/918-img_1825.jpg http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/photos/fudcon2010zurich/img_8971.jpg -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] fudcon tempe shits
On 10/27/2010 09:02 AM, diego montiel wrote: > ok, this is already in png format Please provide the images in scalable (SVG) format with source availability, to we can play with them too. Here are my first observations: - your FUDCon logo has a white background, overleaping the cactus, it looks ugly, use transparent background instead; - in this image the logo is stretched vertically, don't to that (in the second email is not stretched, that is right to do); - the cactus used a third type of blue, you have too many colors, leading to an increased price, keep the number of colors down; - add more variety, do not use exactly the same image on the front and the back; - can the cactus have a nicer shape? - surely the T-shirt will be white? lately we had black ones and I think they were liked better; - from what I talked, I believe we want to keep the designs more generic, not include the exact date, so the T-Shirts are easily reusable (is not that cool for me to wear now a T-shirt from a 2008 FUDCon). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Initial Anaconda installer mockup
On 10/25/2010 11:50 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 13:20 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: >> Asking what fonts can be used on Anaconda will be helpful. The current >> incarnation feels so legacy. > > So I talked to Peter Jones& Chris Lumens in #anaconda, basically: > > - anaconda can support any fonts X can support, so Comfortaa/Cantarell > are possible here Still, I don't think we want to use there the "branding" fonts, but use instead for consistency the fonts that are used by default on the desktop once installed. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
I noticed the Belgian community having an own design and talked them (Bert Desmert) into releasing the source too: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Generic_release_party_poster.png http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Generic_release_party_poster.svg Is more generic, nor release dependent and easy to reuse, good to have handy as an alternative. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
On 10/20/2010 01:22 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: > > Also, I call first panda!;) > Two variations and source at http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/ I was worthless those days by not being able to come with my own panda but just stumbled upon a cute one on OCAL: http://www.openclipart.org/user-detail/shu -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
On 10/22/2010 12:35 PM, Ansel Kirchubel wrote: > Course, I noticed, svg... that will do? > > I am currently working between windows and linux, so I'm not sure what I > will be using. Haha. SVG is the preferred format for vector graphics and the best tool is Inkscape, but one can edit SVG files also with Illustrator and some other tools. For layered raster graphics we prefer XCF, the GIMP file format. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
On 10/22/2010 12:21 PM, Ansel Kirchubel wrote: > > Current setup -- > Win xp 64bit > Fedora > (dual boot) > Programs I use - > Graphics > Photoshop CS4 > Illustrator CS4 > Flash CS 4 > Premier CS4 > Maya 8.5 > Programming --- > HTML Kit > Dev-C++ > I dabble in music as well :-\ > Fruity Loops > Acidpro > Reason > Other audio editors. > Still getting used to linux so no linux programs atm. :-\ No problem, good to see a bit more background :) You will discover that we are not anal is asking people to use certain applications, we do require source files for the artwork, so the entire team can play with them, and obviously in file formats we can use :) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
On 10/22/2010 10:57 AM, Ansel Kirchubel wrote: > First off, hi all! Hi Ansel! > My name is Ansel. I'm from Colorado, USA. I just signed up for the design > team. Just wanted to say hi and, the poster looks great. :D Welcome! Can you say a few words about you, your work, your likes, the apps you are using? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
On 10/22/2010 06:52 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-21 at 10:29 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> Emily, IIRC you don't have a blog but I think we should announce this to >> the larger community by posting on Planet Fedora... have you plans to >> start a blog (i you don't know, we have free hosting at >> http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/) or prefer to have the poster announced >> by someone else, like Mo or me? > > You recalled correctly. I don't have time for blogging, I have pandas to > make! ;) Thanks for pointing out the fedora blog hosting - I was not > aware. I'll definitely look into that, but for now, if anyone would like > to blog about the release poster please do so. I think Mo said she was > going to do a blog post about all of the release art (discs+sleeves, > countdowns, poster) at the last meeting. But more publicity for the > design team can't hurt, right? After all, people have a right to know > about our awesomeness... OK, I did it: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/10/release-party-poster-for-f14-or-story.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Ticket 15 "Lekhonee" Wordpress Client muckup
On 10/22/2010 02:40 AM, Felipe Echeverría B wrote: > > I made a 3rd option that might work, still doing arrows. I know it needs > tweaking but let me know what you think. Ideally a logo is scalable, simple and made with vector graphics, from this POV I think the first proposal is by far the best one. Also 2 and 3 do not look "gnomish" at all. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Reminder: Ticket #159: FreeMedia Mailer Design
On 10/21/2010 11:47 PM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > In the recent past, Ankur raised a Trac Request on behalf of the > FreeMedia Program for a FreeMedia Mailer Design. > On Fri, 8 Oct 2010, I submitted a Draft Design for that request (Please > see, Design-Team Digest, vol 18, Issue 9, topic #2) Direct link to your mail: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-October/003444.html > Since then, it has not been critiqued. I understand that the imminent > release of F14 requires a focus on release related artwork, > nevertheless, I'd really like to know if the solution is acceptable. > > Should I close the Ticket and what would the resolution be ... fixed? I > solicit your comments please. Ankur is the requester and he is supposed to close the ticket when he is happy with what you provided. I see in the ticket he gave some feedback and then stopped. Ping him again to see if he is satisfied or have more requests (or if her read this list he can reply here too). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
On 10/20/2010 01:22 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: > I made up a (slightly) new poster based on the feedback I got at the > meeting today. If anyone has any other feedback just let me know. > > Check it out: > http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/release_14.png > Source: > http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/release_14.svg > (this is a little big b/c of the background) Emily, IIRC you don't have a blog but I think we should announce this to the larger community by posting on Planet Fedora... have you plans to start a blog (i you don't know, we have free hosting at http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/) or prefer to have the poster announced by someone else, like Mo or me? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 Release poster
On 10/20/2010 01:33 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 16:22, Emily Dirsh wrote: >> I made up a (slightly) new poster based on the feedback I got at the >> meeting today. If anyone has any other feedback just let me know. >> >> Check it out: >> http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/release_14.png >> Source: >> http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/release_14.svg >> (this is a little big b/c of the background) >> >> Also, I call first panda!;) >> Two variations and source at http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/ > > Where is the panda? I want a panda. Panda is at the party, waiting for us there and preparing the drinks in the meanwhile. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Hello Everyone.
On 10/19/2010 07:42 AM, Felipe Echeverría B wrote: > Hello everyone. Hi Felipe! > I am Felipe from México City i am a graphic designer. I am 35 years old > and i have worked for some dot-com companies in the past. I am an avid > advocate of pinguins and since 1995 i am a Linux user. > > I studied my professional licensed degree in graphic design at Mexico > City Universidad Iberoamericana and my skils > have been spread into several cathegories: Web, packaging, typography, > illustration, animation, and all sorts of graphic magic. I personally > enjoy signaling and communication theory and fundamentals. Do you have some works posted online? Which are your preferred tools? Around here we use Inkscape and GIMP *a lot*, Scribus when needed and Blender only from time to time, due to lack of experience. > I have read the documents on the wiki page and i am starting the > process, so my next step is to read the CLA document and after that i > will take a look at the ticket spool and see where can i help. Wonderful! Please ask for guidance if you need help with the task in the ticket. > I hope i can give back a little bit of what this community has given to me. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora?
On 10/15/2010 05:17 AM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > > The ability to group layer on this version caused me to use daily. I > personally do not care about single mode, only the tabbing of images is > worth. Hopefully Gimp team will implement a non-destructive made with > the so called adjustment layers and native support of CMYK for printing > process (Krita does a better job) although Separate plugins sorta helps. Those features won't happen before GIMP 3.0 (full gegel integration). In my experience, single window mode wastes too much screen estate. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GIMP 2.7/2.8 in Fedora?
On 10/14/2010 12:26 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > I CAN HAS FEDORA 14 PACKAGEZ PLZ? :) Send Luya some beers (or cookies?) and you may... And BTW, I suspect there is something wrong with the "Shift" key on your keyboard. Personally, until moving my desktop to F14 Beta I used GIMP 2.7.1 for a while and kind of hated it, is early and unpolished, not something I would want to push to an unsuspecting user. Will try again with 2.7.2. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] "Fedora Students Contributing" Shirt Idea
On 10/09/2010 01:49 AM, Jef van Schendel wrote: > 2010/10/8: >> After some feedback, and a lot of trial-and-error from my part, I >> extended the design to this: >> >> http://db.tt/TJnns6b > > I've already said it on IRC, but I think it looks absolutely fantastic. :) > > I agree with Marc though - it looks like the "Fedora" is trying hard > to push to the centre, but the flowers are blocking it. Maybe move it > to the left and down a bit, like this: I think having the logo (wordmark) equally big (and really big) on both front and back is redundant. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora design suite group in comps
On 10/08/2010 02:11 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 08:31 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> Yes, please create the comps group. Check with the spin maintainers >> for >> the exact list of apps. > > I think this is it: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite_Planning#Included > > The ones under the "graphics group" That seems to not be updated (shotwell should be already in, a few other packagers are not yet reviewed), there should be somewhere (Pierros?) the kickstart we agreed on at FUDCon. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Fedora design suite group in comps
On 10/07/2010 08:01 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > > In the process of creating this, I learnt that a better way of > implementing this would be the creation of a comps group for the design > suite. (Meta packages have certain demerits). Since the design-suite > spin also exists, the comps group would be a convenient thing to have. > > I wanted to know what the design team thinks about this. I can take this > up as a task. It will need some discussion on the -devel list. If the > team's okay with this, I'll go ahead and start a thread. Yes, please create the comps group. Check with the spin maintainers for the exact list of apps. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] "Fedora Students Contributing" Shirt Idea
On 10/07/2010 04:56 PM, Christian wrote: > > Currently, I am working on the roots, I've been trying all day to get > something to work with, and it finally starts coming together, I think. > > I'd like to get a little feedback from you, maybe you have some ideas > for improvements > > You can take a look at what I came up with here: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2835814/fedora_tee/idea_5.png My first suggestion would be to edit a bit those leaves so they don't look that much like marijuana. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] The Fedora RPG
On 10/06/2010 12:02 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 14:21, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> After we talked on today's IRC meeting about possible Fedora RPG, I >> decided to start the ball rolling by exposing my personal vision about it. >> I focused only on the "gameplay", not on the implementation details. > > Cool will the rules be CC'd. I can help with implementation details. > Are we looking at a board top game, one that can be played with dice > or want to keep things using computer apps :). Hmmm the idea was for a MMO game played mostly inside the Fedora infrastructure, but if it get successful, we may try a table top version :D As for the rules, the team won't *ever* create something with a non-Free license, of course. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
[Design-team] The Fedora RPG
After we talked on today's IRC meeting about possible Fedora RPG, I decided to start the ball rolling by exposing my personal vision about it. I focused only on the "gameplay", not on the implementation details. === The Fedora RPG The game is centered around a rectangular badge showing the "player" status, which can be easily embedded in a website/blog/etc. The badge layout is as follow: at the top the user name/nick and general rank; on one side the avatar with the current set of customizations, customizations are enabled by *honor* points in the middle the list of classes and levels, classes are SIGs membership, levels are enabled by *experience* points and reflect activity inside the SIG at the bottom a list of medals, enabled by special quests The name/nick is user chosen, preferable the IRC nick/FAS name, the rank is enables by a sum of experience points, honor points and medals. Example: Wizard Martin As an usual Fedora contributor is member in more than one SIG, an usual character of the game will basically be a multiclass character. The level is determined by experience points, earned automatically from activity: bugzilla, trac, koji etc. - closing tickets, submitting patches, creating packages, writing wiki pages, documentation and so on. Example: Martin is a level 2 packager, level 4 designer and level 1 desktop developer The avatar is a panda, from a selection of initial shapes and genders with customization enabled by honor points. Customization can be items like hats, glasses, guitar, laptop, tie, can be a selection of backgrounds like bamboo, data room, disco, or can be the color of the avatar: blue panda, pink panda, green panda, etc. Each customization has a cost in honor points. Honor points are received from another players for activity inside the project: helping on a mailing list, writing a good blog post on planet, delivering a cool presentation at FUDCon or being the last man standing at the release party. Example: Martin is a Blue Panda, wearing a pink cap, dark sunglasses and having a telescope in hand. The medals are received from accomplishing quests: winning the bi-weekly Design Bounty, bringing pizza at a release party, organizing a FAD, etc. The experience points are earned automatically from the infrastructure, the honor points can be donated by anyone having a FAS account and medals can be granted only by players with a certain level of experience (SIG/team leaders?). When a player starts the game he can choose the gender of the avatar (we have both male and female contributors), the general shape (we should provide at least 5-6 general body types to avoid monotony). The classes are read from FAS group membership. Is also possible to select the badge color and maybe the graphic style (classic, modern, cartoon, sketch, etc.) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Resignation of Design Suite Spin Co-Maintainer
On 10/05/2010 05:15 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > > One of my frustration is the efforts of communication between the three > Owners, Maintainers and Co-Maintainers. I feel there is too much in the > difference of opinion between the three of us and feel that we can not > get in agreement on the big issues on what make a real difference to the > user experience of the Design Suite. I think it would have been helpful if all of you sat down together (at the weekly IRC Design Team meetings would be a perfect opportunity), talk and fine tune your vision. I didn't see such talk even on the mailing list. We are a team and we are supposed to work together and understand each other, having some of us growing frustrations with the team or its projects is something we should avoid when possible. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Proposed Icon for Ticket #99
On 10/04/2010 05:52 PM, Bryan Nielsen wrote: > I had not rendered the icon in the various sizes yet. I need a bit of > guidance on the various steps I should be taking to make sure icons > have the appropriate appearance and are rendered properly for > packaging. Martin or Jimmac are probably the best persons to teach about this. > Here are some renderings of the new icon... > http://xorengineering.com/dev/system-config-boot-22.png > http://xorengineering.com/dev/system-config-boot-24.png > http://xorengineering.com/dev/system-config-boot-48.png > > I used some source SVG files from the gnome themes for the computer > screen behind the arrows and I chose the largest screen in the source > file to work with. There were several smaller screens in the same > source file and I'm wondering if I should have used one of the smaller > screens to get a better rendering for a small icon. The biggest problem is blurry icons, at such small sizes if the drawing is not aligned to pixels, then the result is blurry, have a look at https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/Guidelines/CommonMistakes (is a different icon set but the principles are the same) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Introduction
On 10/04/2010 05:40 PM, Bryan Nielsen wrote: > Hello Nicu, > > I read the logo design guidelines in detail after creating my logo so > I now realize it cannot actually be used. But that is okay, it was a > fun exercise. Sure, I played with it in a similar way too :) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Introduction
On 10/02/2010 07:29 PM, Bryan Nielsen wrote: > As recommended on the Fedora Project wiki concerning interest in > contributing I joined the mailing list and am now sending an > introduction. Welcome, > Most of my artistic experience is more from a technical background, > creating diagrams, dimensional drawings and models, factory equipment > and facility layouts and models in the semiconductor manufacturing > industry. I have recently been experimenting with Inkscape to generate > various icons, logos, and presentation media and as a long time fan > and user of RHL, Fedora Core and now Fedora Linux I am interested in > contributing to the project if my skill level is at an acceptable > level. We can use a lot of help, so yes, we need you :) > As an example of my current Inkscape skill level I created the Fedora > Logo at the following link using Inkscape and the logo specifications > on the wiki page... > > http://xorengineering.com/dev/fedora-shiny-logo.svg Your editing is very good looking but our logo is a trademark so such modifications are not allowed, they will help diluting the mark, forwhat we can do with the logo see: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines > I also contribute to Open Clipart with my new found skills... > > http://www.openclipart.org/search/?query=bnielsen Glad to see here a fellow OCAL contributor :) (i am http://www.openclipart.org/user-detail/nicubunu) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Proposed Icon for Ticket #99
On 10/02/2010 10:16 PM, Bryan Nielsen wrote: > Hello again, Hi Bryan and welcome to our team, > I was looking for a simple ticket item that I could tackle and ticket > #99 does not have an owner and looked like something I could handle. > > https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/99 It is awesome you stepped directly into the tickets queue. > So here is my proposed replacement for the old system-config-boot.png icon... > > http://xorengineering.com/dev/system-config-boot.svg Have you tried rendering the PNG at 22x22 / 24x24, the actual size that will be used in the menu? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] GIMPBox gives enables GIMP single window mode
On 09/30/2010 03:17 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote: > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/gimpbox-gives-stable-versions-of-the-gimp-single-window-mode/ > > This works in Fedora 12 and 13 without any issues, hope you like it. I tried the GIMP in single windows mode (devel branch, 2.7.1, biuld in Koji for F13) and did not like it, it wastes too much screen estate (desktop, 20" wide screen). And in the case of the netbook... there it is unusable. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] (no subject)
On 09/27/2010 08:14 PM, kanza aman wrote: > > have done updations. look forward to it now :) You have a small typo, year "20010". Please in the future don't sent such large attachments to the list, upload the files somewhere (your fedorapeople account, the wiki, etc.) and pass a link. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] design-team Digest, Vol 17, Issue 20
On 09/24/2010 01:47 PM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > Strangely, Joe's design bears a .otg extension ... which software reads > that? Would be nice to see what was done earlier as I am curious as to > why Free-media wants a redesign. .OTG fles are templates for Open Document graphics, you open them in OpenOffice.org Draw. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] dvd_label
On 09/24/2010 09:33 AM, kanza aman wrote: > > hello to all, Hi, > check this out friends :) There are a few problems with your design: - the fedora logo is stretched horizontally; - you made the wordmark int he logo black instead of blue; - the version number "14" does not look like our complementary font, is neither MgOpen Modata nor Comfortaa For correct logo usage please check http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Logo/UsageGuidelines - the copyright text is incorrect, use the one from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Media_Art (adjust the year) Also, check the arhives in the Media Art for re-use of the templates from previous releases. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] How do I install Design Suite on top of existing Fedora 13?
On 09/23/2010 01:15 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:58 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Maybe we should look intro providing a: >> yum groupinstall design-suite > > Can we please not do this and leave things as they currently are as > there are more pressing and immediate issues that have to be and should > be dealt with. > > Like the ISO size which is still above the ~700MB limit! Defining comps is parallel to creating the spin and does not affect its size in any way. Also, last week at FUDCon we had the session about the Design Suite (Pierros should give a detailed report) where the agreement was 1GB is a sensible target, the CD is too small and too slow. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] [Request] Mailer for the free media programme.
On 09/22/2010 07:10 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 11:32 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> Our ticket system is here: >> >> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ > > hi Mairin, > > Thank you for that, I've filed in a ticket. > > https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/159 How about turning this into a bounty item? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Beta wallpaper revision
On 09/22/2010 10:16 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 12:29 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> >> Here's a couple of revisions towards that end - what do you think? >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/d/dd/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev1.png >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/4/40/F14-beta-wallpaper-rev2.png >> > Personally, I'd go with rev2 -- rev1 feels too bright and busy. Can you > perhaps try desaturating the blue a little? I am with Martin here, rev2, without the bright spot stealing my attention focus and maybe less saturated colors. And then we can say we are done. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] How do I install Design Suite on top of existing Fedora 13?
On 09/23/2010 04:05 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 17:56 -0700, C. F. Howlett wrote: >> I just discovered the Design Suite today. I've already got Fedora >> installed. How do I add the Suite to the existing platform? Thank you. > > Well... I know this isn't the neatest or easiest thing to do, but this > should get you the equivalent on top of base Fedora, if you type on a > command line: > > yum install agave blender entangle fontforge fontmatrix gimp > gimp-*-plugin GREYCstoration-gimp mathmap inkscape mypaint > nautilus-image-converter optipng rawtherapee scribus shotwell > synfigstudio ufraw xournal jokosher pitivi gtk-recordmydesktop Maybe we should look intro providing a: yum groupinstall design-suite -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
On 09/21/2010 01:19 PM, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > I sending to wiki [1] my proposal for beta website banner. This is a > continuation of postal theme. Well done, I like it. > [1] - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Banners_Submissions#Beta_Banner_Submissions -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Ticket #155: FUDCon:Tempe Wiki/Webpage Banners
On 09/16/2010 06:50 AM, Marc Stewart wrote: > > I've made a set of banners by taking the logo from here: > https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/154/fudcon-tempe-2011-logo.svg > and then rearranging elements to fit the various banner shapes. I've > deliberately kept close to that design without embellishments for the > sake of rapid recognisability, though I've used rotation in some > variants to allow size increases for extra impact. I checked the logo source: why we still use MgOpen for the "fudcon" text? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Zurich accommodation?
On 09/15/2010 10:39 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Bunker sounds fantastic, I like these strange places ;-) So we'll share the bunker! To bad I won't bring my [airsoft] guns for total fun... -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Beta wallpaper revision
On 09/15/2010 12:17 AM, Kris Thomsen wrote: > Emily, I lve! the dark one - but can you try making something > without the lens-flare? I don't like them :D I am in agreement with Kris, the dark version is beautiful but the flare is put of place. Interesting to see the two approaches based on the same concept, this one from Emily very soft and smooth and Mo's proposal, strong and energetic. > 2010/9/14 Emily Dirsh: >> Thanks for all the feedback guys! It's really great! :) Taking >> everyone's comments into account I made a new! improved! revised >> wallpaper. I also did a dark version for Martin. ;) >> >> Here's the links: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-light-rev2.png >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-rev2-dark.png >> >> Unfortunately, I didn't get them done in time for the meeting today, or >> to get into beta, but I did want to share them with everyone. :) -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks
On 09/14/2010 06:25 PM, Alexander Smirnov wrote: > > I sending to wiki [1] my proposal for countdown banner based on Máirín's > wallpaper. I like it. Maybe update with darker colors, fitting Máirín's latest proposal (what we will have in Beta) > [1] - > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Banners_Submissions#Countdown_Banner -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] beta wallpaper for packaging
On 09/14/2010 11:43 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > Here's the quick go at a beta wallpaper for packaging today: > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/7/7b/F14-beta-wallapaper.png I think we may have a winner here :) > Just a reminder this is so we have something updated in the beta, not > necessarily going to be the final! -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Welcome to the "design-team" mailing list (Digest mode)
On 09/14/2010 07:45 PM, John Biebel wrote: > Hello Fedora Designers. Hi and nice to meet you > I'm a (relatively) new employee at Red Hat and would like to become more > involved in the Fedora community. I'd like to introduce myself: I'm an > interaction designer and artist originally from suburban Connecticut, > USA, who has lived and worked in New York, London and now Boston. I'm a > graduate of the Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art in > Manhattan, where I majored in Painting and Photography. I've worked as > an illustrator, visual designer, copywriter, and many other jobs during > college. I was once employed by an artist to create 10,000 skulls out of > plaster during one of the hottest summers New York City ever witnessed. > So indeed, the work background has been diverse. So I believe some of your work is featured at http://www.ichigatsu.com/about.html, cool. > In the arts now, I work primarily in painting and music, my music > project being named Ichigatsu (hence the username), which is Japanese > for January. I see some of your music at http://www.myspace.com/ichigatsu > I'm excited by the possibilities that are offered by Fedora and a > completely free-software experience. I also think it's important as a > Red Hat employee to be as familiar with our products as possible and > contribute where and when I can. Maybe you can join us sometime at the weekly IRC meeting too. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Beta wallpaper revision
On 09/14/2010 12:27 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 17:18 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: >> Do you think this is something we could use for beta? Or is it the wrong >> direction? >> >> (source is: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Resources/Fedora% >> 20Release%20Themes/F14/Wallpaper/F14-2400x15363.xcf ) > > It might help to link the actual wallpaper, lol: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-beta-wallpaper-mizmo-3.png My main problem here is with the bright areas being too bright so they lose details, when this happen with one of my photos I get "damn! I borked it with overexposure", change the settings and shoot again (if there is something left to shoot, else just delete it). But I like the concept and would like the image if it is darker and have more details visible. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/03/2010 09:09 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 09/03/2010 04:45 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: >> >> I've also received positive replies from the folks I contacted. (5 for >> 5! woo!) I went ahead and updated the attributions on the wiki to comply >> with their individual attribution requests. > > Didn't get an answer yet from Hamed Saber but is still early, I think we > can wait at least one week before taking a decision about him. He replied today, was offline for objective reasons and he is a long time Linux user and glad to contribute back. I think we can and have to time to add hos two images in a revision of the package. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Owners and (Co) Maintainers Email Meeting #4 [PUBLIC VERSION]--September 10, 2010
On 09/11/2010 10:50 PM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 2:25 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> -1 to having application icons on the desktop, they are in the menu and >> if the users want them on the desktop, it is trivial. > > I added this icon in the first place to enable people to access > further resources. I feel that Mo's introduction of Inkscape to > students is a resource we should link to (for those who don't know: > http://opensource.com/education/10/4/introducing-open-source-middle-school). > I'd like to see us expanding that - whether these links should be on > the desktop or in the browser or some other place is certainly > debatable, though. :) IMO, a default cluttered desktop makes us feel like OEMs adding tons of crapware on their Windows pre-installs. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Beta wallpaper revision
On 09/11/2010 09:14 AM, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hrm, not bad, but I like this one the best (and I'm already using it): > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:F14-wallpaper-remix-em-dark.png I also like best the colors and composition in this one. > IMHO the lens flare and darker colours work better than aurora and > lighter colours. The flare is, IMO, it's biggest flaw: it looks to me too much like the default flare in GIMP. > Keep up the awesome work! :) +1 -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] A doubt about F14 wallpapers
Victor Hugo Borges wrote: > Excuse me, my friends,But as Im new to this mailling group thing and even > to > a design-team discussion, I have some doubts. > About Fedora 14, the wallpapers where already choosen? There is any chance > that I could submit one to review? Yes, the concept for the F14 *default* wallpaper was chosen and included in the downloadable packages for feedback. > Sorry if I still noobing here, but in wiki I read something about "Concept > submissions ended 6 July, 2010", but i keep seeing people submitting new > wallpapers, so it makes me wonder, could I submit one? Indeed, that was the deadline for the concept submissions and we selected one. What you see now is: - *refinements* on the concept already submitted; - *supplemental* (non-default) wallpapers, but we are beyond the deadline for those too. So if you want to work on wallpapers now, you can either help with improving what we have (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork#Alpha_designs) or play with something for the next release (F15). Alternatively, you can help with the various banners and splashes (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supporting_Grahics) that are also needed. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Owners and (Co) Maintainers Email Meeting #4 [PUBLIC VERSION]--September 10, 2010
On 09/10/2010 03:40 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > > Gnome-Shell: > > There's no doubt whether we like it or not, the Gnome-Shell will be > implemented as the replacement and default desktop environment for > Fedora including its Spin Desktops, somewhere along the line. > > Personally, I'm no fan of the Gnome-Shell (Gnome 3), hence my own > complete migration to the KDE4 desktop environment in the previous > weeks. > > I am curious as to how Gnome-Shell is going to affect the Spins? ie. > Design Suite Spin. > > Will it affect performance and productivity? > And how much control do we have in blocking it for a desktop spin? > And should we be blocking it? Gnome-Shell is part of GNOME 3 which was postponed (at least) until the next spring, so I expect our Design Suite to default to the classic panel in F14. > Inkscape desktop icon: > > I am not happy with the current process of having a Inkscape icon and > link on the desktop upon a fresh install of the Design Suite Spin. > > To me, it simply does not make sense and poses more questions that what > it answers. > > It's easy enough to remove using the kickstart config. But before I go > and do that, I require the opinions of others. -1 to having application icons on the desktop, they are in the menu and if the users want them on the desktop, it is trivial. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] F14 splashes
On 09/07/2010 01:28 PM, Victor Hugo Borges wrote: > Hey all, Hi Victor, > Is my first time ever in a list so, let me noob a little. > I was reading the wiki about how to join the design team and stuff and > it said I must introduce myself here. > Well, let me do it. Welcome > Im Borges, and I live in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. (with S) > My portfolio is here: http://vhborges.tumblr.com and i make art about 6 > years. Nice, thanks for sharing. > and i would love to help creating some wallpapers, icons and other > design things to the Fedora distro. You are in the right place, here is where the development is happening. Watch the conversations and jump in when you feel right. If there is something unclear, don't be afraid to ask. As you say you are new with mailing lists, there is a small advice: when writing about a new topic, the best is to start with creating a new message, not reply to an old, existing conversation and also put a proper subject line, this way you will increase the change for your mail to be read by people (not everybody read all the messages in all conversations). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/03/2010 04:45 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: > > I've also received positive replies from the folks I contacted. (5 for > 5! woo!) I went ahead and updated the attributions on the wiki to comply > with their individual attribution requests. Didn't get an answer yet from Hamed Saber but is still early, I think we can wait at least one week before taking a decision about him. I also blogged one of the replies I found particularly touching: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/09/everyone-can-contribute.html > Now we just need to test them and make any necessary edits! :) Yes please. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/02/2010 09:02 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > On 09/02/2010 04:41 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: >> >> Also, nicubunu mentioned blogging/promoting the supplemental wallpaper >> package, but I don't have a blog :) - so is there anyone on the list >> with a blog who wants to plug it for us? :D > > I'll do it (start writing in 3, 2, 1... ) Done: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2010/09/fedora-14-supplemental-wallpapers.html -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/02/2010 04:41 AM, Emily Dirsh wrote: > > Also, nicubunu mentioned blogging/promoting the supplemental wallpaper > package, but I don't have a blog :) - so is there anyone on the list > with a blog who wants to plug it for us? :D I'll do it (start writing in 3, 2, 1... ) PS: I got replies/confirmation from 3 of the 4 contacted people already. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/01/2010 01:43 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > Based on the team's vote, Emily created a page with the "winners": > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_Winners Also IIRC at least Mo and Jimmac had improvement/editing suggestions for some of the images, I think the time to start playing with them is NOW, so everybody can have fun time with GIMP and the photos. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/01/2010 01:43 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > I started with my own part: > - mailed and awaiting replies from Hamed Saber, Unhindered by Talent, > Eneas, Ivan Zuber; > - identified "Lavender Kiss" as having an inappropriate license, > CC-BY-ND, which is considered non-Free so not usable in Fedora. And I received already a first reply... a second link and a twitter name seems to me a bit to much, what do you think? -- *Subject: Re: Usage permission *Date: 1st September, 2010* Thanks for your message. I'm really glad to read that you like my photos, especially "the sound of decadence". The attributions you mention seem good to me, also could you add when you mention me my twitter unsername as well? it's @ivanzuber As for the other website, I've a vimeo account http://www.vimeo.com/ivanzuber if you want to include it. Thanks and please let me know where and how you're using this photo! Regards, Ivan -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/01/2010 02:22 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 14:07 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> Also, we have to investigate having an XML file to provide another part >> of the offer "attribution and licensing information will be included in >> the wallpaper chooser widget" > Erm, how? AFAIK in the wallpaper chooser widget under gnome you cannot > display anything else than a tootlip with wallpaper name (plus the > automatic info about what type of wallpaper it is and where it is > located). I'm not sure about KDE, LXDE and XFCE (KDE uses .desktop > instead of XML and LXDE and XFCE probably nothing)... The XML files in /usr/share/gnome-background-properties, at worst I believe we can put the author name and license in the image name -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
On 09/01/2010 01:56 PM, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 13:43 +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > >> We will also need the help of a packager to push them in the distro, >> Martin or someone else, can you lend a hand? >> > Let me know when the license check is done. The idea which came on IRC yesterday was we can make the package soon, using the 5 images we know are OK so the package is in early, before the freeze, and then update it later with the rest of the images. One thing to take care of is our promise to the authors and license compliance, we offered "mention in the commit message for the package, mention in the package metadata". Also, we have to investigate having an XML file to provide another part of the offer "attribution and licensing information will be included in the wallpaper chooser widget" > Is it desirable to put it all in one package > (laughlin-backgrounds-extras) or do we want one package per wallpaper? > I'd incline to the former as it's saner to manage. One single package, otherwise we go to insanity. > Also, do we want to have it on some spins (other then design suite where > it definitely is desirable) / default installation? If so, someone would > need to persuade the people in charge (you know, the spins are always > having issues with size and this would make matters only worse)... Hmmm... good call, how we market the feature? A first step is to announce it on blogs/Planet to raise awareness (I believe Emily is supposed to do this, as she assembled the wiki page). For spins, I could see the package on Desktop but, for example, not necessarily on Security... I guess is the spin maintainer's call -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
[Design-team] Supplemental Wallpapers
Based on the team's vote, Emily created a page with the "winners": https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_Winners The next step is to re-check the licenses to ensure we are all OK with the usage: - 5 images were submitted by known Fedora contributors, who signed the CLA: icon, fabsh, bruce89 and nicubunu, they should be OK; - me and Emily split the remaining ones and are contacting the authors, the images are taken from Flickr and they have Creative Commons licenses but we want to check they are OK with the attribution. I started with my own part: - mailed and awaiting replies from Hamed Saber, Unhindered by Talent, Eneas, Ivan Zuber; - identified "Lavender Kiss" as having an inappropriate license, CC-BY-ND, which is considered non-Free so not usable in Fedora. We will also need the help of a packager to push them in the distro, Martin or someone else, can you lend a hand? -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] FUDcon Zurich roll-call!
On 08/20/2010 10:10 AM, Pierros Papadeas wrote: > On 20 Αυγ 2010, at 8:51, Nicu Buculei wrote: >> >> I was to lazy to write something about it, but I was thinking about a >> hackergotchi booth (photos + GIMP). > > Also I shall help Nicu with the Gotchi Booth :) Sounds like a plan Pierros: you catch the victims, I shoot them and then we'll see who we can manage to fool into doing the GIMP part while we have some beers. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] Supplemental Wallpaper Submission Voting
On 08/20/2010 12:46 AM, Fabian A. Scherschel wrote: > > I just closed the Supplemental Wallpaper Submissions down. Please head > to the main page [1] and the older one which also has excellent images > [2] and pick the 20 images you like the most. Please submit your vote > here or at the IRC meeting on Tuesday when we'll wrap the voting process > up and pick the final winners. And a note for the people voting: please, do not look at thumbnails or small size previews before voting, there are important quality criteria like the noise level, clarity at 100% zoom, available resolution, color aberrations, unwanted elements in the frame, composition, motion blur. I won't be able to attend the next meeting (being at a photography camp where I will take pictures people want as their wallpapers but we can't use - bribe me for some :D ) so the vote goes here (followed my own criteria above and found less than 20 satisfying images): - Magic forest - The sound of decadence - Seneca Lake - Jean-marie hullot - Geese at Sunset - Sheep - Kuranda Butterfly Sanctuary - Southern Germany 3 - Mricon-f14-backgrounds-submission-red - Mricon-f14-backgrounds-submission-sand - Thou_apocalypse - Another sunset (needs editing) - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Wallpaper-nicubunu-rose5.jpg - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Wallpaper-nicubunu-macro1.jpg *Only* if we have high-res available, also (scrap if we don't): - Path - Chain - Nighttime-water - Evening-sun -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
Re: [Design-team] FUDcon Zurich roll-call!
On 08/19/2010 06:58 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Who's going to be at FUDcon Zurich from the design team? > > I am going and Sandro thought it would be cool if all the design team > members present ran a workshop. What do you think? My camera will be there and I heard it is taking me too. I was to lazy to write something about it, but I was thinking about a hackergotchi booth (photos + GIMP). -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ ___ design-team mailing list design-team@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
