Re: Announce: gio-standalone 0.1.1 and gvfs 0.0.1 released

2007-11-07 Thread Alexander Larsson

On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 18:01 +0100, Sven Herzberg wrote:
 Am 06.11.2007 um 17:03 schrieb Alexander Larsson:
 
  I'm pleased to announce the first ever tarball release of gio and  
  gvfs!
 
 Congratulations! But where's the bug tracker?

I guess i should get a bugzilla product for gvfs. For gio it should
probably be a new component in glib.

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Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-07 Thread Calum Benson
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 14:16 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On 11/1/07, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  There's also an impending LSB accessibility spec that recommends
  which AccessX features ought to be exposed in its configuration GUI,
  which I guess we should try and stick to at a minimum (KDE is already
  compliant with the draft, IIRC).  Not sure when it's due to be
  published, though...
 
 
 Ugh, since when does the LSB deal in UI standardization ?
 One more step towards irrelevance, I guess...

By all means ignore the fact that it's the LSB, then.  Consider it, if
you prefer, a recent re-evaluation by a11y experts (three of whom have
long been involved with GNOME's accessibility project, the other with
KDE's) of the best practice for making free desktop environments
accessible to people with certain disabilities :)

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-07 Thread Willie Walker
Thanks Matthias!

I think the main thing to remember is that the settings may seem too 
finely granular for people who don't have to use them. But, the 
granularity allows the target user to fine tune their experience to get 
the most effective experience and highest throughput.

Will

Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On Nov 7, 2007 6:52 AM, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ugh, since when does the LSB deal in UI standardization ?
 One more step towards irrelevance, I guess...
 By all means ignore the fact that it's the LSB, then.  Consider it, if
 you prefer, a recent re-evaluation by a11y experts (three of whom have
 long been involved with GNOME's accessibility project, the other with
 KDE's) of the best practice for making free desktop environments
 accessible to people with certain disabilities :)
 
 That is certainly more convincing.
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Re: Input devices capplets

2007-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Moya

On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 17:02 +, Sergey Udaltsov wrote:
  About the many tabs: at least the Layouts tab could move to the i18n
  capplet when we have finished it.
 
 Oh really? But what about the Layout Options popup? It does not really
 belong to i18n...
 
how so? it belong to the layout part, which is in the localization
capplet mockup Denis sent a while ago, and which I should be getting to
life soon (sorry, quite busy, and I've got just a very little code done,
but will try to have a first version before the end of the week)
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Re: Input devices capplets

2007-11-07 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
 how so? it belong to the layout part, which is in the localization
 capplet mockup Denis sent a while ago, and which I should be getting to
 life soon (sorry, quite busy, and I've got just a very little code done,
 but will try to have a first version before the end of the week)
Well, if you think so... I am just not sure people find things like
numpad-related options or CapsLock behaviour belonging to i18n.

Anyway, since now this is just a popup - it would be quite trivial to
move it into any capplet we'll find suitable.

Actually I was more thinking along the lines of the latest mockups:
http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/keyboard.html.

Sergey
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Re: [Usability] Mousetweaks usability discussion

2007-11-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Nov 7, 2007 6:52 AM, Calum Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Ugh, since when does the LSB deal in UI standardization ?
  One more step towards irrelevance, I guess...

 By all means ignore the fact that it's the LSB, then.  Consider it, if
 you prefer, a recent re-evaluation by a11y experts (three of whom have
 long been involved with GNOME's accessibility project, the other with
 KDE's) of the best practice for making free desktop environments
 accessible to people with certain disabilities :)

That is certainly more convincing.
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Re: Input devices capplets

2007-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Moya

On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 16:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
 On 10/31/07, Jürg Billeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 18:59 +0100, Denis Washington wrote:
   I created two mockups for possible keyboard and mouse capplets in GNOME
   2.20. Their aim is to incorporate accessibility features in both; the
   existing keyboard a11y features into Keyboard and the already discussed
   Mousetweaks settings into Mouse. The mockups can be found here:
  
   Keyboard: http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/keyboard.html
   Mouse:http://ultimum-projekt.de/mockups/mouse.html
  
   What do you think?
 
  Shouldn't we also incorporate the Keyboard Shortcuts capplet into the
  Keyboard capplet at the same time? Otherwise good work, as far as I can
  tell from a quick look.
 
  I don't think there was sufficient agreement that shortcuts have much
 if anything to do with the other keyboard settings.

right, and it would make the keyboard capplet too crowded. Since there
is the mousetweaks discussion going on, what about having shortcuts and
mousetweaks into an 'input devices actions' (find a better name)
capplet?
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Re: Input devices capplets

2007-11-07 Thread Sergey Udaltsov
 In the keyboard capplet it would be good to add on the Layouts tab the
 option to configure the keyboard shortcut used to switch between
 layouts. Currently this option is located in the Layout Options tab,
 inside Group Shift/Lock behaviour, towards the end of the list.
This options group is one of the groups provided in base.xml. The only
way to distinguish it is hardcode its id. Which does not sound great
to me... But the visible strings in this group - they are provided as
is, and I totaly against extracting the key names from them (BTW they
are localized).

Sergey
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Re: Input devices capplets

2007-11-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le jeudi 01 novembre 2007, à 22:48 +0100, Luca Ferretti a écrit :
 
 Il giorno gio, 01/11/2007 alle 15.09 +0100, Vincent Untz ha scritto:
 
  Matthew hacked this up to work with DEVICE_RESOLUTION, so SHMConfig
  isn't needed. Only three settings work, though (tap to click, horizontal
  scrolling, vertical scrolling).
  
  I don't know where to find a patch (the source package doesn't have any
  patch), but I believe it's only a minor change. But it's only a short
  term hack, I guess :-)
  
  (I looked at all this to see how easy it'd be to add support for my
  disable touchpad key)
 
 mmmhhh.. 
 
 Isn't Ignore touchpad while typing option a better solution for laptop
 guys?

Don't know how other people work, but when I plug an USB mouse, I don't
want my touchpad to work. That's the main use case for me. But your
proposal can also make sense.

Anyway, in this case, it's not about making it automagically work, but
about using the key on my laptop which is designed for this :-)

Vincent

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GLib branched for 2.14

2007-11-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
I have just created a glib-2-14 branch which will continue to receive
bugfixes and produce 2.14.x releases.

The work that we expect to land in trunk soon is the gio work that
Alex' has been working on for a while.
He sent out a mail outlining our merge plans earlier today.

Matthias
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Re: Agnubus?

2007-11-07 Thread Enver ALTIN
Hola,

On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 08:38 +0100, Piotr Gaczkowski wrote:
  Frankly, I'd like to see an s5 editor (inc. themes):
  http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/
 
 That's nice, cause I thought about writing one (web-based of course)
 about a year ago, but couldn't find motivation to complete it. Now
 that I see I'm not the only one with those crazy ideas, maybe I'll
 give a try!

Recently Google added presentations to their Google Docs product, which
is exactly what you want plus other goodies, like collaboration.
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