Hello,
Here are news about Empathy. Biggest objections for inclusion were:
- Empathy depends on libmissioncontrol-client which is LGPLv2.1-only: This
situation won't change in time for GNOME 2.24, however this library will be
deprecated probably during the 2.25 cycle in favor of a new spec and API in
libtelepathy-glib which is LGPLv2.1+.
- Empathy has no user manual: This is not true anymore[1], a manual is
being written and is already included. It is far from complete but Milo
Casagrande is working on it, help is needed to finish it in time I think.
- libempathy and libempathy-gtk are GPL and not documented: We agreed that
those libraries won't be proposed for the GNOME platform, never. They are
proposed for experimental purpose in the DESKTOP. Useful bits of
libempathy(-gtk) will be moved to libtelepathy-glib and (probably new)
libtelepathy-gtk once they are API stable, documented and LGPL. Most parts
potentially useful for telepathy-glib are already LGPL, the rest could be
rewritten or licencing change will be asked if/when needed.
libtelepathy-glib is fully documented[2].
- Passwords are stored in gconf: This is not true anymore, if
libmissioncontrol-client is build with libgnome-keyring passwords are stored
in the keyring and not in gconf anymore. If you upgrade MC from a previous
version make sure to retype the password of every account to be sure they
are removed from gconf and added to the keyring.
Notes:
- libtelepathy is now deprecated an empathy do not depend on it anymore,
replaced by libtelepathy-glib
- libempathy and libempathy-gtk are only continence API to make easy to
write applications, but everything can be done through DBus so it's totally
licence-independent.
[1] http://library.gnome.org/users/empathy/unstable/
[2] http://library.gnome.org/devel/telepathy-glib/unstable/
I hope this will help the adoption of Empathy for GNOME 2.24.
Xavier Claessens.
2008/3/25 Xavier Claessens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> * Proposal: Include Empathy in GNOME 2.24 desktop.
>
> * Purpose: Empathy [1] consists of a rich set of reusable instant
> messaging widgets, and a GNOME client using those widgets. It uses
> Telepathy and Nokia's Mission Control, and reuses Gossip's UI. The main
> goal is to permit desktop integration by providing libempathy and
> libempathy-gtk libraries. libempathy-gtk is a set of powerful widgets
> that can be embeded into any GNOME application.
>
> * Dependencies:
> glib-2.0 >= 2.16.0
> gconf-2.0 >= 1.2.0
> libxml-2.0
> libtelepathy >= 0.3.2
> telepathy-glib >= 0.7.3
> libmissioncontrol >= 4.53
> gtk+-2.0 >= 2.12.0
> libglade-2.0 >= 2.0.0
> libebook-1.2
> libpanelapplet-2.0 >= 2.10.0
>
> * Resource usage: Already using GNOME FTP, GNOME SVN and GNOME bugzilla.
>
> * Adoption: It is packaged at least for debian, ubuntu, mandriva, gentoo
> and fedora. There is patches for Totem and nautilus-send-to [2] to make
> use of libempathy(-gtk). There is a gtetrinet branch which uses
> libempathy-gtk to play with contacts. There is also a python plugin for
> epiphany using pyempathygtk [3]. Empathy is also used by Soylent [4].
>
> * GNOME-ness: The community reports bugs in GNOME bugzilla and attach
> patches, I review and commit in GNOME's SVN. GNOME translation teams are
> already translating empathy. The UI is build with GNOME spirit in mind,
> empathy inherit from Gossip's excellent UI.
>
> * Miscellaneous:
> - Audio/Video support is still disabled by default but most problems
> comes from other telepathy layers and are being worked. I'm pretty sure
> it will be enabled soon. That means Empathy will be able to do
> audio/video calls over SIP and Jabber, MSN will surely come at some
> point too. Empathy is the only program capable of that AFAIK.
> - libtelepathy is now deprecated, empathy is moving to telepathy-glib.
> If we finish the transition we'll drop libtelepathy dependency.
> - Empathy's part for file-transfer is almost done, but the telepathy
> spec is likely to change soon. I hope it will be ready in time for 2.24.
> - API is still not documented and likely to change, I know this sucks.
> - There is no user documentation yet, I'll write an email to ask
> documentation team to write one base on Gossip's doc.
> - Empathy was proposed for GNOME 2.22 but got rejected because it was
> not considered stable/mature enough. Lots is already fixed and I hope to
> fix more during the 6 months coming. Help from the community is of
> course welcome!
>
> Thanks,
> Xavier Claessens.
>
> [1] http://live.gnome.org/Empathy
> [2] http://www.barisione.org/blog.html/p=100
> [3] http://blog.senko.net/2007/07/19/emphatic-epiphany
> [4] http://live.gnome.org/Soylent
>
>
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