evolution-mapi branched for gnome 2.28

2009-09-07 Thread Johnny Jacob
Just branched evolution-mapi for GNOME 2.28 . So stable branch is
gnome-2-28. 

Thanks.

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Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009, à 12:25 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis a écrit :
> Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus
> (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder
> scale discussion about it?

The icons for categories in the applications menu are back, which I
think was the major annoyance. You can get other icons back by changing
the setting about icons in menus.

FWIW, I started a thread on the usability mailing list in August to get
opinions on whether this change made sense or not in the gnome-panel
context since I wasn't convinced a complete removal made sense. I would
have loved to get more feedback on this there ;-)

Vincent

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Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
On Mon, 2009-09-07 at 13:46 +0200, Luca Ferretti wrote:
> 2009/9/7 Andre Klapper :
> > Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 12:25 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
> >> Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus
> >> (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder
> >> scale discussion about it?
> >
> > Everything has been written and said about this already.
> 
> True, but honestly I can't remember anything about categories in
> Application menu.
> 

Actually I thought that there was a patch for this in gnome-panel, to
avoid this corner case since we do wanted icons in the panel
menubar/menu.
Tried a few days ago and had a gnome-panel without icons too, perhaps it
was something with my configuration? Can someone confirm if git master
has this enabled?

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Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Luca Ferretti
2009/9/7 Andre Klapper :
> Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 12:25 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
>> Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus
>> (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder
>> scale discussion about it?
>
> Everything has been written and said about this already.

True, but honestly I can't remember anything about categories in
Application menu.

I'm for re-enable them. IMHO there is no reason to remove them now
that GNOME Panel is going to be replaced by GNOME Shell.

Cheers, Luca
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Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 12:25:20PM +0300, Peteris Krisjanis wrote:
> I know there's have been some disagreement about having or not having
> "too much icons" in GNOME system, but it seems someone is tired of
> arguing and have taken matters in their own hands. Results are awful
> in my very personal opinion. GNOME icons are best of the breed as
> visual indicators and helps a LOT to navigate fast trough menus. Now I
> have to waste lot of time to read labels another and another time just
> to make sure I click on right thing.

  I agree that less visual cues make finding things harder. But thing
about it as an incentive to upgrade to gnome-shell. You have choice:
classic panel, harder to use than before or new GNOME 3.0 way,
which is loaded with icons.

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Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Andre Klapper
Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 12:25 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis:
> Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus
> (Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder
> scale discussion about it?

Everything has been written and said about this already.
The decision was made by several people after discussing this for a
longer time. It has also been already discussed on this mailing list[1],
mentioned in blogs on planet.gnome.org, discussed in the corresponding
bug reports, etc.
I have no idea what else your "wilder scale" should include.
I only know that coming up with this again and again wastes time.

andre

[1] for example: 
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2009-July/msg00126.html
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Re: Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Manu

Hi angry user,

well... just install and run gconf-editor and change the
/desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons key. (if I remember well)
:)

You may found other interesting things in gconf by the way.

Enjoy.

/MB


Peteris Krisjanis wrote:

Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus
(Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder
scale discussion about it?

I know there's have been some disagreement about having or not having
"too much icons" in GNOME system, but it seems someone is tired of
arguing and have taken matters in their own hands. Results are awful
in my very personal opinion. GNOME icons are best of the breed as
visual indicators and helps a LOT to navigate fast trough menus. Now I
have to waste lot of time to read labels another and another time just
to make sure I click on right thing.

Cheers,
angry GNOME user,
Peter.
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Decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menu

2009-09-07 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
Who did a decision to remove icons from gnome-panel main menus
(Places, System and Applications) and why there haven't been wilder
scale discussion about it?

I know there's have been some disagreement about having or not having
"too much icons" in GNOME system, but it seems someone is tired of
arguing and have taken matters in their own hands. Results are awful
in my very personal opinion. GNOME icons are best of the breed as
visual indicators and helps a LOT to navigate fast trough menus. Now I
have to waste lot of time to read labels another and another time just
to make sure I click on right thing.

Cheers,
angry GNOME user,
Peter.
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