Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
Hi Frederic, This is useful, thanks! - Original Message - | Hi, | | Philip Withnall wrote: | | > On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 11:07 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: | > > I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically | > > produce | > > a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if | > > that could be useful. | > | > I think 1) would be useful because I have a load of modules which I am | > not sure if they need to follow the main GNOME release schedule. I had | > a nagging fear they should, but then nobody poked me about doing a | > release, so I forgot to check up further. As a result, a lot of my | > modules haven’t had releases following the schedule. (Sorry if I have | > been a total pain because of this.) | > | > Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of tracking | > who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should not be too | > much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you probably | > shouldn’t do it. | | This was mostly done manually (at least as far I am concerned), but | here is an experiment, | https://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/health/wanted-releases.html | | And the red modules are first targets. | | (this has been generated from my local clones, updated a few hours | ago, if it's something we want to pursue it would be quite nice to | have this automated and running on GNOME infrastructure) (the disk | requirements exclude openshift). | | | Fred | | [code at https://git.gnome.org/browse/releng/tree/tools/health/] | ___ | desktop-devel-list mailing list | desktop-devel-list@gnome.org | https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
Philip Withnall wrote: > > This was mostly done manually (at least as far I am concerned), but > > here is an experiment, > > https://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/health/wanted-releases.html > > > > And the red modules are first targets. > > > > (this has been generated from my local clones, updated a few hours > > ago, if it's something we want to pursue it would be quite nice to > > have this automated and running on GNOME infrastructure) (the disk > > requirements exclude openshift). > > Nice! If it's not much effort to get this running on GNOME > infrastructure, I think it would be useful, and have it linked from the > release reminder e-mails. Actually I already had https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743833 (yeah for bugzilla suggesting duplicates), I added a comment. > What do the x/y numbers mean? Numbers are numbers of commits since last tag, first number omits the translation commits. Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 21:40 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > Hi, > > Philip Withnall wrote: > > > On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 11:07 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > > > I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically > > > produce > > > a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, > > > if > > > that could be useful. > > > > I think 1) would be useful because I have a load of modules which I > > am > > not sure if they need to follow the main GNOME release schedule. I > > had > > a nagging fear they should, but then nobody poked me about doing a > > release, so I forgot to check up further. As a result, a lot of my > > modules haven’t had releases following the schedule. (Sorry if I > > have > > been a total pain because of this.) > > > > Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of > > tracking > > who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should not be > > too > > much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you probably > > shouldn’t do it. > > This was mostly done manually (at least as far I am concerned), but > here is an experiment, > https://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/health/wanted-releases.html > > And the red modules are first targets. > > (this has been generated from my local clones, updated a few hours > ago, if it's something we want to pursue it would be quite nice to > have this automated and running on GNOME infrastructure) (the disk > requirements exclude openshift). Nice! If it's not much effort to get this running on GNOME infrastructure, I think it would be useful, and have it linked from the release reminder e-mails. What do the x/y numbers mean? Philip signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
Hi, Philip Withnall wrote: > On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 11:07 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > > I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically > > produce > > a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if > > that could be useful. > > I think 1) would be useful because I have a load of modules which I am > not sure if they need to follow the main GNOME release schedule. I had > a nagging fear they should, but then nobody poked me about doing a > release, so I forgot to check up further. As a result, a lot of my > modules haven’t had releases following the schedule. (Sorry if I have > been a total pain because of this.) > > Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of tracking > who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should not be too > much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you probably > shouldn’t do it. This was mostly done manually (at least as far I am concerned), but here is an experiment, https://people.gnome.org/~fpeters/health/wanted-releases.html And the red modules are first targets. (this has been generated from my local clones, updated a few hours ago, if it's something we want to pursue it would be quite nice to have this automated and running on GNOME infrastructure) (the disk requirements exclude openshift). Fred [code at https://git.gnome.org/browse/releng/tree/tools/health/] ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 10:52 +, Philip Withnall wrote: > Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of > tracking who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should > not be too much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you > probably shouldn’t do it. Hi, it would be nice, if anything like this will be implemented, to have the notifications on the opt-in bases. I understand the need for maintainers of tons of modules which do not receive any active development, but for me, whom has only few packages, would be the notification a simple spam and thus quite annoying thing. I'm fine the Friday notification about the following Monday release. I have also setup a calendar notifications about the releases. Just my opinion on the matter. Bye, Milan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 11:07 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to > > > devel-announce-list. Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed. > > > > > > Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC > > > deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days > > > during > > > release weeks. If you know you will be late, tell us, either by > > > email > > > at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release- > > > team. > > > > I'd rather somebody helped me 1) know which of my modules need > > releasing 2) do releases. > > We can of course assist in producing tarballs, just ping us. > > I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically > produce > a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if > that could be useful. I think 1) would be useful because I have a load of modules which I am not sure if they need to follow the main GNOME release schedule. I had a nagging fear they should, but then nobody poked me about doing a release, so I forgot to check up further. As a result, a lot of my modules haven’t had releases following the schedule. (Sorry if I have been a total pain because of this.) Would such a list be useful for the release team, as a way of tracking who needs nagging? If so, then I hope producing it should not be too much of a drain on your time — if it is a drain, then you probably shouldn’t do it. Philip signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
Bastien Nocera wrote: > > It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to > > devel-announce-list. Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed. > > > > Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC > > deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days during > > release weeks. If you know you will be late, tell us, either by > > email > > at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release-team. > > I'd rather somebody helped me 1) know which of my modules need > releasing 2) do releases. We can of course assist in producing tarballs, just ping us. I'm a bit surprised by 1) but we could certainly automatically produce a list of maintainers / modules/ time/commits since last release, if that could be useful. Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 12:09 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > Hi! > > > Tarballs are due on 2015-11-23 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME > > 3.19.2 > > unstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules > > which > > were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable > > schedule > > so everyone can test them. Please make sure that your tarballs > > will > > be uploaded before Monday 23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded later than > > that > > will probably be too late to get in 3.19.2. If you are not able to > > make a tarball before this deadline or if you think you'll be late, > > please send a mail to the release team and we'll find someone to > > roll > > the tarball for you! > > It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to > devel-announce-list. Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed. > > Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC > deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days during > release weeks. If you know you will be late, tell us, either by > email > at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release-team. I'd rather somebody helped me 1) know which of my modules need releasing 2) do releases. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
Shaun McCance wrote: > Question: If I don't intend to make a release because there haven't been > any changes, do you want me to send an email saying so? Nope, that's already something we check before chasing people :) And while it's important to get stable releases out when the only changes are translation updates it is ok to "ignore" them for (early) development releases. Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 12:09 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > Hi! > > > Tarballs are due on 2015-11-23 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.19.2 > > unstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which > > were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable schedule > > so everyone can test them. Please make sure that your tarballs will > > be uploaded before Monday 23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded later than that > > will probably be too late to get in 3.19.2. If you are not able to > > make a tarball before this deadline or if you think you'll be late, > > please send a mail to the release team and we'll find someone to roll > > the tarball for you! > > It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to > devel-announce-list. Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed. > > Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC > deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days during > release weeks. If you know you will be late, tell us, either by email > at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release-team. Question: If I don't intend to make a release because there haven't been any changes, do you want me to send an email saying so? -- Shaun ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Maintainers, please read this. [Re: GNOME 3.19.2 unstable tarballs due]
Hi! > Tarballs are due on 2015-11-23 before 23:59 UTC for the GNOME 3.19.2 > unstable release, which will be delivered on Wednesday. Modules which > were proposed for inclusion should try to follow the unstable schedule > so everyone can test them. Please make sure that your tarballs will > be uploaded before Monday 23:59 UTC: tarballs uploaded later than that > will probably be too late to get in 3.19.2. If you are not able to > make a tarball before this deadline or if you think you'll be late, > please send a mail to the release team and we'll find someone to roll > the tarball for you! It's been some months we have those reminder emails sent to devel-announce-list. Maintainers, make sure you are subscribed. Maintainers (bis), please do try to respect the Monday 23:59 UTC deadline, it's really not fun to chase maintainers for days during release weeks. If you know you will be late, tell us, either by email at release-t...@gnome.org or simply by pinging us on #release-team. Thanks for your attention, Fred ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list