Re: Geoclue needs your help!
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:06:09PM +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: The source makes use of the new Mozilla Location Service[1] and that being very new, does not have a lot of coverage. The good news is that they provide a web API and an android application to allow people to help them extend their coverage: Mozstumblr. I talked to our designers briefly about having a similar service/app in GNOME to be able to contribute data from GNOME itself as well but lack of GPS hardware makes it rather not that useful in the end. So what I would really appreciate is for you nice folks to consider installing Mozstumblr on your android phones (if you have one, that is) and make our geolocation framework work as well as we all want it to. Mozilla works one way with this Location Service. They do collect data, but don't allow downloading them back: http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/120952.html I don't think GNOME should encourage contributions to such closed, proprietary service. -- Tomasz TorczOnly gods can safely risk perfection, xmpp: zdzich...@chrome.pl it's a dangerous thing for a man. -- Alia ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Geoclue needs your help!
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Tomasz Torcz to...@pipebreaker.pl wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 08:06:09PM +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: The source makes use of the new Mozilla Location Service[1] and that being very new, does not have a lot of coverage. The good news is that they provide a web API and an android application to allow people to help them extend their coverage: Mozstumblr. I talked to our designers briefly about having a similar service/app in GNOME to be able to contribute data from GNOME itself as well but lack of GPS hardware makes it rather not that useful in the end. So what I would really appreciate is for you nice folks to consider installing Mozstumblr on your android phones (if you have one, that is) and make our geolocation framework work as well as we all want it to. Mozilla works one way with this Location Service. They do collect data, but don't allow downloading them back: http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/120952.html There is a very good reason they don't let you download it: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CloudServices/Location/FAQ#Can_I_download_the_entire_raw_database.3F In short, the data isn't exactly theirs to give away freely. I don't think GNOME should encourage contributions to such closed, proprietary service. None of the software is closed or proprietary. Its all availlable and developed in open like a real free software: https://github.com/mozilla/ichnaea https://github.com/mozilla/MozStumbler Moreover, you can easily create a service based on their service that gives out data to everyone if you wish so but I don't see GNOME needing to do so. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Geoclue needs your help!
Thanks for your work! I think you should write a blog post about this to get wider coverage. On 01/24/2014 03:06 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: Hi all, As some of you might have heard, last week I added a wifi-geolocation source to geoclue. I'm working on also adding 3G and GPS sources but with GNOME running on mostly laptops, most people wont have the needed hardware for these sources. Also is the fact that laptops are usually used indoor and I'm not yet sure when we will have GPSA support. Keeping all this in mind and that our geiop source typically gives us city-level accuracy, this wifi-geolocation source is the most important one. The source makes use of the new Mozilla Location Service[1] and that being very new, does not have a lot of coverage. The good news is that they provide a web API and an android application to allow people to help them extend their coverage: Mozstumblr. I talked to our designers briefly about having a similar service/app in GNOME to be able to contribute data from GNOME itself as well but lack of GPS hardware makes it rather not that useful in the end. So what I would really appreciate is for you nice folks to consider installing Mozstumblr on your android phones (if you have one, that is) and make our geolocation framework work as well as we all want it to. Have a nice weekend! ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Geoclue needs your help!
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Hashem Nasarat hnasa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your work! Thanks for appreciation! I think you should write a blog post about this to get wider coverage. I totally intend to. :) -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
Re: Geoclue needs your help!
On fre, 2014-01-24 at 20:06 +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: So what I would really appreciate is for you nice folks to consider installing Mozstumblr on your android phones (if you have one, that is) and make our geolocation framework work as well as we all want it to. Installing it now. Consider Gothenburg, Sweden covered! ;) ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
