Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-15 Thread Eric Newton

 This started making me think about making this clear for other components
 like FATE and RandomWalk.


Accumulo dev's have made some effort to extract Fate, Tracing, RandomWalk
and even ContinuousIngest, all to see the code copied (tracing, CI), with
little attribution, or ignored (RW, Fate). The effort to create independent
projects has largely been wasted.  Worse, it has led to convoluted
duplication within our own code base. For example, multiple copies of
zookeeper-related code.

I would rather do something like port RW to HBase, and adopt that version
for Accumulo, like we have for tracing.  Otherwise, I wouldn't bother
putting any effort into separating these modules with some abstract notion
that someone else might use it.

-Eric


On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Some thoughts myself...

 John Vines brought up to me privately the topic of separating out the
 RFile code from core. This started making me think about making this clear
 for other components like FATE and RandomWalk. These all have some level of
 separation, but they often get other things dropped into the same bucket
 (e.g. ZK-retry code in FATE, Accumulo implementation classes in
 RandomWalk). Maybe there are more things we could do.

 It would be nice to start trying to pull out these frameworks/sub-projects
 into discrete packages. I think it would help us with testing and proper
 separation of logic. Long term, maybe other projects would see the value
 and consider using/adopting them and grow into their own
 separately-versioned artifacts. It would be nice to start these efforts now
 to eventually reap the benefits.


 2.0 and the new client API is a little scary now that we get another tick
 closer to it. I know it's been Christopher's brain-child so far (which is
 fine -- not meant to be taken in a negative context), but, if we really do
 want to adopt it, we should make a concerted effort to start integrating
 and reviewing it. Given how far away this seems, 1.8 and 1.9 could happen
 (or client API just gets targeted for a 3.0 -- numbers are just numbers).


 We have some decent script improvements for 1.8 already in (PID files
 _finally_). Would be nice to clean up the rest of the scripts too (notably
 the stop scripts need some love).


 Some other back-burner thoughts: better client API metrics, more
 server-side tracing instrumentation, Adam's iterator-stack collapsing perf
 ticket, keep tabs on HDFS tracing impl, keep tabs on HTrace's GUI work,
 finish the Accumulo monitor rewrite (aka REST server + servlet3).

 - Josh


 Josh Elser wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
 everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh




Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Busbey
I think we also need a formal announcement that the branch is EOM and may
only be resuscitated for critical security issues (and may not at that).

To illustrate the need, I noticed the 1.5.3 release made Hadoop Weekly but
there was no mention that it is the last expected 1.5.z release.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:

 Good point.

 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015, 15:36 Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

  Upgrade testing out of 1.5.x to 1.6 or 1.7?
 
  Christopher wrote:
   What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in
   the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development
   branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to
   do is to archive the 1.5 parts of the website... and I see no
   particular rush for that. We can do it along with the next minor or
   major release.
  
   --
   Christopher L Tubbs II
   http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
  
  
   On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Sean Busbeybus...@cloudera.com
  wrote:
   I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen.
  
   On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  
   Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
  everyone
   else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!
  
   To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come
  to
   mind...
  
   * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
   * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
   * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
   * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting
 the
   new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?
  
   Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues
 to
   the desired fixVersion)
  
   - Josh
  
  
  
   --
   Sean
 




-- 
Sean


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser
Do you think we didn't cover that appropriately in the ANNOUNCE email 
and/or the release notes?


I wouldn't have expected anything more from Hadoop Weekly than apache 
foo x.y.z, 1-2 high-level changes, read more _here_


Sean Busbey wrote:

I think we also need a formal announcement that the branch is EOM and may
only be resuscitated for critical security issues (and may not at that).

To illustrate the need, I noticed the 1.5.3 release made Hadoop Weekly but
there was no mention that it is the last expected 1.5.z release.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org  wrote:


Good point.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015, 15:36 Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com  wrote:


Upgrade testing out of 1.5.x to 1.6 or 1.7?

Christopher wrote:

What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in
the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development
branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to
do is to archive the 1.5 parts of the website... and I see no
particular rush for that. We can do it along with the next minor or
major release.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Sean Busbeybus...@cloudera.com

wrote:

I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com

wrote:

Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by

everyone

else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come

to

mind...

* When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
* What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
* What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
* Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting

the

new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues

to

the desired fixVersion)

- Josh



--
Sean






Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher
I don't see a problem sending an extra note to the user@ alias and the
twitter, just to be clear but I think we've sufficiently covered it
for the larger ASF community with the announce@ notice.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you think we didn't cover that appropriately in the ANNOUNCE email and/or
 the release notes?

 I wouldn't have expected anything more from Hadoop Weekly than apache foo
 x.y.z, 1-2 high-level changes, read more _here_


 Sean Busbey wrote:

 I think we also need a formal announcement that the branch is EOM and may
 only be resuscitated for critical security issues (and may not at that).

 To illustrate the need, I noticed the 1.5.3 release made Hadoop Weekly but
 there was no mention that it is the last expected 1.5.z release.

 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org  wrote:

 Good point.

 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015, 15:36 Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Upgrade testing out of 1.5.x to 1.6 or 1.7?

 Christopher wrote:

 What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in
 the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development
 branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to
 do is to archive the 1.5 parts of the website... and I see no
 particular rush for that. We can do it along with the next minor or
 major release.

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Sean Busbeybus...@cloudera.com

 wrote:

 I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen.

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com

 wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by

 everyone

 else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come

 to

 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting

 the

 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues

 to

 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh


 --
 Sean







Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser

Also, might be worthwhile to look at thrift 0.9.2 for 1.8

For kerberos, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2660.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2274 might be a concern for 
us too (would have to check).


Josh Elser wrote:

Some thoughts myself...

John Vines brought up to me privately the topic of separating out the
RFile code from core. This started making me think about making this
clear for other components like FATE and RandomWalk. These all have some
level of separation, but they often get other things dropped into the
same bucket (e.g. ZK-retry code in FATE, Accumulo implementation classes
in RandomWalk). Maybe there are more things we could do.

It would be nice to start trying to pull out these
frameworks/sub-projects into discrete packages. I think it would help us
with testing and proper separation of logic. Long term, maybe other
projects would see the value and consider using/adopting them and grow
into their own separately-versioned artifacts. It would be nice to start
these efforts now to eventually reap the benefits.


2.0 and the new client API is a little scary now that we get another
tick closer to it. I know it's been Christopher's brain-child so far
(which is fine -- not meant to be taken in a negative context), but, if
we really do want to adopt it, we should make a concerted effort to
start integrating and reviewing it. Given how far away this seems, 1.8
and 1.9 could happen (or client API just gets targeted for a 3.0 --
numbers are just numbers).


We have some decent script improvements for 1.8 already in (PID files
_finally_). Would be nice to clean up the rest of the scripts too
(notably the stop scripts need some love).


Some other back-burner thoughts: better client API metrics, more
server-side tracing instrumentation, Adam's iterator-stack collapsing
perf ticket, keep tabs on HDFS tracing impl, keep tabs on HTrace's GUI
work, finish the Accumulo monitor rewrite (aka REST server + servlet3).

- Josh

Josh Elser wrote:

Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
mind...

* When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
* What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
* What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
* Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
the desired fixVersion)

- Josh


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser
Yeah, that's why I brought it up now. If we're going to do it, we should 
do it now and let the shake-down begin.


I know Hive has been on 0.9.2 for a while now, so I assume it's somewhat 
ok. I'm sure we'll be good testers :)


Christopher wrote:

Bumping thrift versions scares me... a lot... because of how terrible
thrift has been about avoiding breakage and/or retaining
functionality. It seems every time we bump to fix something we want
fixed, we find many more things broken.

I'd be much more interested in moving to something a bit more reliable
than Thrift... maybe Java serialization (heavy use of Externalizable)
or protocol buffers with Netty. But, maybe that's something more for
2.0 (or later, since it seems like it'd be a huge effort). Even just
moving off thrift for the network and leaving it in place for the
serialization, might be a big improvement in stability.

I'd be far less concerned about bumping thrift if it only affected the proxy.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com  wrote:

Also, might be worthwhile to look at thrift 0.9.2 for 1.8

For kerberos, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2660.

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2274 might be a concern for us
too (would have to check).


Josh Elser wrote:

Some thoughts myself...

John Vines brought up to me privately the topic of separating out the
RFile code from core. This started making me think about making this
clear for other components like FATE and RandomWalk. These all have some
level of separation, but they often get other things dropped into the
same bucket (e.g. ZK-retry code in FATE, Accumulo implementation classes
in RandomWalk). Maybe there are more things we could do.

It would be nice to start trying to pull out these
frameworks/sub-projects into discrete packages. I think it would help us
with testing and proper separation of logic. Long term, maybe other
projects would see the value and consider using/adopting them and grow
into their own separately-versioned artifacts. It would be nice to start
these efforts now to eventually reap the benefits.


2.0 and the new client API is a little scary now that we get another
tick closer to it. I know it's been Christopher's brain-child so far
(which is fine -- not meant to be taken in a negative context), but, if
we really do want to adopt it, we should make a concerted effort to
start integrating and reviewing it. Given how far away this seems, 1.8
and 1.9 could happen (or client API just gets targeted for a 3.0 --
numbers are just numbers).


We have some decent script improvements for 1.8 already in (PID files
_finally_). Would be nice to clean up the rest of the scripts too
(notably the stop scripts need some love).


Some other back-burner thoughts: better client API metrics, more
server-side tracing instrumentation, Adam's iterator-stack collapsing
perf ticket, keep tabs on HDFS tracing impl, keep tabs on HTrace's GUI
work, finish the Accumulo monitor rewrite (aka REST server + servlet3).

- Josh

Josh Elser wrote:

Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
mind...

* When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
* What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
* What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
* Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
the desired fixVersion)

- Josh


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher
I completely agree with more abstracting separable funtionality where
it makes sense. I think RFile makes sense. Maybe separating it out
would help alleviate some problems I've seen with it being too tightly
coupled with Hadoop config and Accumulo config. And, maybe it'd help
with its API... right now, working with RFiles is a nightmare. Even
just basic read/write is confusing.

As for 2.0... I'm a bit scared of it myself. It keeps lagging in
priority for me, and isn't going very far very quickly. I have tried
to keep it rebase'd onto the latest master, but it's sometimes
difficult to keep that up. One thing I have kept on top of, though, is
dropping deprecated stuff in 2.0, so it's not burdened with old APIs
and stuff we intend to remove. Everything else in that branch is
either unfinished, or still a rough cut. I would like to start
maintaining a current 2.0 branch, in our shared git in ASF-land, which
is kept up-to-date, drops deprecated stuffs, and where I can start
merging in each feature we complete in the API, as we go. My main
concern with that is merge strategy... I don't want master tainted
with merges from 1.7 - 2.0 - master. That'd be bad... and would
cause huge problems for us. (1.7-master-2.0 is generally fine,
though). That's one reason I previously suggested ceasing use of
master as current development branch, and explicitly make a 1.8
branch for 1.8 devel. (because then, 1.7-1.8-2.0 would still make
sense).

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some thoughts myself...

 John Vines brought up to me privately the topic of separating out the RFile
 code from core. This started making me think about making this clear for
 other components like FATE and RandomWalk. These all have some level of
 separation, but they often get other things dropped into the same bucket
 (e.g. ZK-retry code in FATE, Accumulo implementation classes in RandomWalk).
 Maybe there are more things we could do.

 It would be nice to start trying to pull out these frameworks/sub-projects
 into discrete packages. I think it would help us with testing and proper
 separation of logic. Long term, maybe other projects would see the value and
 consider using/adopting them and grow into their own separately-versioned
 artifacts. It would be nice to start these efforts now to eventually reap
 the benefits.


 2.0 and the new client API is a little scary now that we get another tick
 closer to it. I know it's been Christopher's brain-child so far (which is
 fine -- not meant to be taken in a negative context), but, if we really do
 want to adopt it, we should make a concerted effort to start integrating and
 reviewing it. Given how far away this seems, 1.8 and 1.9 could happen (or
 client API just gets targeted for a 3.0 -- numbers are just numbers).


 We have some decent script improvements for 1.8 already in (PID files
 _finally_). Would be nice to clean up the rest of the scripts too (notably
 the stop scripts need some love).


 Some other back-burner thoughts: better client API metrics, more server-side
 tracing instrumentation, Adam's iterator-stack collapsing perf ticket, keep
 tabs on HDFS tracing impl, keep tabs on HTrace's GUI work, finish the
 Accumulo monitor rewrite (aka REST server + servlet3).

 - Josh


 Josh Elser wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
 everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Christopher
Bumping thrift versions scares me... a lot... because of how terrible
thrift has been about avoiding breakage and/or retaining
functionality. It seems every time we bump to fix something we want
fixed, we find many more things broken.

I'd be much more interested in moving to something a bit more reliable
than Thrift... maybe Java serialization (heavy use of Externalizable)
or protocol buffers with Netty. But, maybe that's something more for
2.0 (or later, since it seems like it'd be a huge effort). Even just
moving off thrift for the network and leaving it in place for the
serialization, might be a big improvement in stability.

I'd be far less concerned about bumping thrift if it only affected the proxy.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 Also, might be worthwhile to look at thrift 0.9.2 for 1.8

 For kerberos, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2660.

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/THRIFT-2274 might be a concern for us
 too (would have to check).


 Josh Elser wrote:

 Some thoughts myself...

 John Vines brought up to me privately the topic of separating out the
 RFile code from core. This started making me think about making this
 clear for other components like FATE and RandomWalk. These all have some
 level of separation, but they often get other things dropped into the
 same bucket (e.g. ZK-retry code in FATE, Accumulo implementation classes
 in RandomWalk). Maybe there are more things we could do.

 It would be nice to start trying to pull out these
 frameworks/sub-projects into discrete packages. I think it would help us
 with testing and proper separation of logic. Long term, maybe other
 projects would see the value and consider using/adopting them and grow
 into their own separately-versioned artifacts. It would be nice to start
 these efforts now to eventually reap the benefits.


 2.0 and the new client API is a little scary now that we get another
 tick closer to it. I know it's been Christopher's brain-child so far
 (which is fine -- not meant to be taken in a negative context), but, if
 we really do want to adopt it, we should make a concerted effort to
 start integrating and reviewing it. Given how far away this seems, 1.8
 and 1.9 could happen (or client API just gets targeted for a 3.0 --
 numbers are just numbers).


 We have some decent script improvements for 1.8 already in (PID files
 _finally_). Would be nice to clean up the rest of the scripts too
 (notably the stop scripts need some love).


 Some other back-burner thoughts: better client API metrics, more
 server-side tracing instrumentation, Adam's iterator-stack collapsing
 perf ticket, keep tabs on HDFS tracing impl, keep tabs on HTrace's GUI
 work, finish the Accumulo monitor rewrite (aka REST server + servlet3).

 - Josh

 Josh Elser wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
 everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Elser

Some thoughts myself...

John Vines brought up to me privately the topic of separating out the 
RFile code from core. This started making me think about making this 
clear for other components like FATE and RandomWalk. These all have some 
level of separation, but they often get other things dropped into the 
same bucket (e.g. ZK-retry code in FATE, Accumulo implementation classes 
in RandomWalk). Maybe there are more things we could do.


It would be nice to start trying to pull out these 
frameworks/sub-projects into discrete packages. I think it would help us 
with testing and proper separation of logic. Long term, maybe other 
projects would see the value and consider using/adopting them and grow 
into their own separately-versioned artifacts. It would be nice to start 
these efforts now to eventually reap the benefits.



2.0 and the new client API is a little scary now that we get another 
tick closer to it. I know it's been Christopher's brain-child so far 
(which is fine -- not meant to be taken in a negative context), but, if 
we really do want to adopt it, we should make a concerted effort to 
start integrating and reviewing it. Given how far away this seems, 1.8 
and 1.9 could happen (or client API just gets targeted for a 3.0 -- 
numbers are just numbers).



We have some decent script improvements for 1.8 already in (PID files 
_finally_). Would be nice to clean up the rest of the scripts too 
(notably the stop scripts need some love).



Some other back-burner thoughts: better client API metrics, more 
server-side tracing instrumentation, Adam's iterator-stack collapsing 
perf ticket, keep tabs on HDFS tracing impl, keep tabs on HTrace's GUI 
work, finish the Accumulo monitor rewrite (aka REST server + servlet3).


- Josh

Josh Elser wrote:

Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
mind...

* When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
* What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
* What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
* Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
the desired fixVersion)

- Josh


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Sean Busbey
I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone
 else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh




-- 
Sean


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Josh Elser

Upgrade testing out of 1.5.x to 1.6 or 1.7?

Christopher wrote:

What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in
the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development
branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to
do is to archive the 1.5 parts of the website... and I see no
particular rush for that. We can do it along with the next minor or
major release.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Sean Busbeybus...@cloudera.com  wrote:

I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com  wrote:


Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone
else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
mind...

* When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
* What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
* What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
* Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
the desired fixVersion)

- Josh




--
Sean


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Christopher
What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in
the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development
branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to
do is to archive the 1.5 parts of the website... and I see no
particular rush for that. We can do it along with the next minor or
major release.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote:
 I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen.

 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone
 else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh




 --
 Sean


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Christopher
Good point.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2015, 15:36 Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Upgrade testing out of 1.5.x to 1.6 or 1.7?

 Christopher wrote:
  What else is there to do for 1.5 EOL? We've indicated this already in
  the 1.5.3 release announcement and we've removed the 1.5 development
  branch. As far as I'm concerned, I think the last remaining thing to
  do is to archive the 1.5 parts of the website... and I see no
  particular rush for that. We can do it along with the next minor or
  major release.
 
  --
  Christopher L Tubbs II
  http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
 
 
  On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Sean Busbeybus...@cloudera.com
 wrote:
  I'd like to see the 1.5 EOL happen.
 
  On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Josh Elserjosh.el...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by
 everyone
  else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!
 
  To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come
 to
  mind...
 
  * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
  * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
  * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
  * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
  new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?
 
  Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
  the desired fixVersion)
 
  - Josh
 
 
 
  --
  Sean



Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-07 Thread Keith Turner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone
 else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?


I am still working on sampling.  After that I was thinking of working on
some ease of use issues, like optionally sending exceptions from the server
side to the client.


 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh



Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-06 Thread Josh Elser
Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by 
everyone else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!


To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to 
mind...


* When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
* What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
* What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
* Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the 
new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?


Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to 
the desired fixVersion)


- Josh


Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-06 Thread Eric Newton
More importantly, when are we going to have a happy hour to celebrate?

-Eric


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone
 else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!

 To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
 mind...

 * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
 * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
 * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
 * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
 new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?

 Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
 the desired fixVersion)

 - Josh



Re: Post 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-07-06 Thread Corey Nolet
+1 on the happy hour!

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Eric Newton eric.new...@gmail.com wrote:

 More importantly, when are we going to have a happy hour to celebrate?

 -Eric


 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks to the efforts spearheaded by Christopher and verified by everyone
  else, we now have 1.5.3 and 1.6.3 releases!
 
  To keep the ball rolling, what's next? High level questions that come to
  mind...
 
  * When do we do 1.7.1 and/or 1.8.0?
  * What bug-fixes do we have outstanding for 1.7.1?
  * What other minor improvements do people want for 1.8.0?
  * Where does 2.0.0 stand? Should we make a bigger effort to getting the
  new client API stuff Christopher had started into Apache?
 
  Feel free to brainstorm here and/or on JIRA (tagging relevant issues to
  the desired fixVersion)
 
  - Josh
 



Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-06-11 Thread Christopher
If anybody has any release notes items for 1.5.3 or 1.6.3, please
comment on the following issues:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-3843 (1.5.3)
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ACCUMULO-3844 (1.6.3)

A brief look at 1.5.3 shows that there's no docs changes since 1.5.2,
so that makes updating the site a bit easier. I also checked for API
changes... and there aren't any changes to public API, so it might not
be worth updating javadocs either (but if somebody thinks we should,
I'd be grateful for help with that when the time comes).

I haven't quite finished looking at 1.6.3, but hopefully it has
minimal doc changes, too (because I don't want to spend a lot of time
updating the site).

An rc0 is forthcoming for both 1.5.3 and 1.6.3. I won't call a vote on
these, but just present them for testing. I'll call an rc1 vote (for
both, concurrently) in a few days after people get a chance to examine
them a bit.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:
 I've narrowed the list down to 3 remaining issues which are still
 Unassigned. If nobody takes these by Monday, I'll punt them to a later
 version so I can start making some RCs.

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-2990
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3773
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3865

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:
 All-

 I'm wrapping up triage'ing issues for 1.6.3. Below is the list of
 issues I haven't (yet) punted. If anybody wants these fixed in 1.6,
 now would be a great time to knock them out. If you want to assign one
 (or more) to yourself to work on, please feel free. If you feel it can
 be punted to a later version, or its priority should change, or if
 there's any other blockers you think should be included in 1.6.3,
 please comment and/or edit the relevant ticket.

 
 Blockers:
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-2388 (assigned to Keith*)
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3755 (assigned to Keith*)
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3859 (assigned to Josh,
 Patch Available to review)

 * not marked In Progress, and I'm sure Keith wouldn't mind if
 somebody else wants to take them on.

 
 Critical (all Unassigned):
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-2687
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-2990
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3029
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3169
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3216
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3773
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3855

 
 Major (all Unassigned):
 
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3250
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/ACCUMULO-3865

 I'd like to vote on some RCs next week. Thanks!

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Josh Elser josh.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 SGTM -- makes sense given historically what we've actually ended up doing.

 Thanks for sending out a progress update.


 Christopher wrote:

 FWIW, I'm still triage'ing issues. I've finished all the 1.5.x issues,
 and have moved on to 1.6.x issues.

 For many of these, I just don't see a fixVersion happening for 1.6.3,
 or even 1.6.4 or 1.6.5 (if those occur). So, I'll most likely just
 drop 1.6.x from the fixVersion for these to avoid constant bumping. In
 fact, I'll probably just drop all but the most recent working
 branch... currently 1.8.0/master... for many of them.

 It's not that these *can't be* fixed for 1.6.x, it's just that I don't
 see that it is very probably that they will be, so rather than lie to
 ourselves, I'd prefer to just be realistic and drop the older
 fixVersions, rather than constantly bump them when we do bugfix
 releases. If these get fixed, and they are fixed for an earlier
 branch, great, we can update the fixVersion to include them.

 The way I see it, the fixVersion has two roles: planning/declared
 intent (for unresolved issues), and statement about which branch a fix
 is included in (for resolved issues). I obviously won't change any
 resolved issues. This is just about being realistic for unresolved
 issues.

 If I run into any critical or blocker issues, I probably won't bump or
 drop those (at least, not without discussion on the issue), but
 trivial or non-bug, or unlikely to be fixed in an older version
 issues, those are the ones I plan to drop the old fixVersions on.

 This is just triage... not final decisions... if I make a change you
 wish to contest, please

Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-29 Thread Christopher
 together.


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:

 Sure, we can discuss that separately. I'll start a new thread.

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Sean Busbeybus...@cloudera.com
 wrote:

 let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL
 1.5.

 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org

 wrote:

 And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
 closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
 Anybody have any thoughts on that?

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org

 wrote:

 I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are
 75
 and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.

 Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these
 and
 prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
 releases who wants to try?

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii



 --
 Sean





Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-28 Thread Christopher
 closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
 Anybody have any thoughts on that?

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org

 wrote:

 I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are
 75
 and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.

 Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these
 and
 prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
 releases who wants to try?

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii



 --
 Sean





Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-27 Thread Christopher
FWIW, I'm still triage'ing issues. I've finished all the 1.5.x issues,
and have moved on to 1.6.x issues.

For many of these, I just don't see a fixVersion happening for 1.6.3,
or even 1.6.4 or 1.6.5 (if those occur). So, I'll most likely just
drop 1.6.x from the fixVersion for these to avoid constant bumping. In
fact, I'll probably just drop all but the most recent working
branch... currently 1.8.0/master... for many of them.

It's not that these *can't be* fixed for 1.6.x, it's just that I don't
see that it is very probably that they will be, so rather than lie to
ourselves, I'd prefer to just be realistic and drop the older
fixVersions, rather than constantly bump them when we do bugfix
releases. If these get fixed, and they are fixed for an earlier
branch, great, we can update the fixVersion to include them.

The way I see it, the fixVersion has two roles: planning/declared
intent (for unresolved issues), and statement about which branch a fix
is included in (for resolved issues). I obviously won't change any
resolved issues. This is just about being realistic for unresolved
issues.

If I run into any critical or blocker issues, I probably won't bump or
drop those (at least, not without discussion on the issue), but
trivial or non-bug, or unlikely to be fixed in an older version
issues, those are the ones I plan to drop the old fixVersions on.

This is just triage... not final decisions... if I make a change you
wish to contest, please watch/follow the JIRA notifications and jump
in to comment (ideally, volunteering to fix the issue in question).
For some issues I've already passed, this has already happened, which
is great.

Anyway, this is just an update on what my intentions are, in case
anybody is curious about all the JIRA edits lately, and in the next
few days.


--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:
 I know Corey volunteered, but I'd like to get started today releasing
 1.6.3. So, if there's no objection in the next hour or so, I'm just
 going to move forward and produce an rc0 test release (no voting
 necessary, as it won't be released, but testing is welcome).

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Corey Nolet cjno...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is, unless any of the new committers would like to take it on- in that
 case, I can help ;-)

 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Corey Nolet cjno...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can get a 1.6.3 together.


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:

 Sure, we can discuss that separately. I'll start a new thread.

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote:
  let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
  closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
  Anybody have any thoughts on that?
 
  --
  Christopher L Tubbs II
  http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
 
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
   I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
   and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.
  
   Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
   prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
   releases who wants to try?
  
   --
   Christopher L Tubbs II
   http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sean





Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-27 Thread Josh Elser

SGTM -- makes sense given historically what we've actually ended up doing.

Thanks for sending out a progress update.

Christopher wrote:

FWIW, I'm still triage'ing issues. I've finished all the 1.5.x issues,
and have moved on to 1.6.x issues.

For many of these, I just don't see a fixVersion happening for 1.6.3,
or even 1.6.4 or 1.6.5 (if those occur). So, I'll most likely just
drop 1.6.x from the fixVersion for these to avoid constant bumping. In
fact, I'll probably just drop all but the most recent working
branch... currently 1.8.0/master... for many of them.

It's not that these *can't be* fixed for 1.6.x, it's just that I don't
see that it is very probably that they will be, so rather than lie to
ourselves, I'd prefer to just be realistic and drop the older
fixVersions, rather than constantly bump them when we do bugfix
releases. If these get fixed, and they are fixed for an earlier
branch, great, we can update the fixVersion to include them.

The way I see it, the fixVersion has two roles: planning/declared
intent (for unresolved issues), and statement about which branch a fix
is included in (for resolved issues). I obviously won't change any
resolved issues. This is just about being realistic for unresolved
issues.

If I run into any critical or blocker issues, I probably won't bump or
drop those (at least, not without discussion on the issue), but
trivial or non-bug, or unlikely to be fixed in an older version
issues, those are the ones I plan to drop the old fixVersions on.

This is just triage... not final decisions... if I make a change you
wish to contest, please watch/follow the JIRA notifications and jump
in to comment (ideally, volunteering to fix the issue in question).
For some issues I've already passed, this has already happened, which
is great.

Anyway, this is just an update on what my intentions are, in case
anybody is curious about all the JIRA edits lately, and in the next
few days.


--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org  wrote:

I know Corey volunteered, but I'd like to get started today releasing
1.6.3. So, if there's no objection in the next hour or so, I'm just
going to move forward and produce an rc0 test release (no voting
necessary, as it won't be released, but testing is welcome).

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Corey Noletcjno...@gmail.com  wrote:

That is, unless any of the new committers would like to take it on- in that
case, I can help ;-)

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Corey Noletcjno...@gmail.com  wrote:


I can get a 1.6.3 together.


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org  wrote:


Sure, we can discuss that separately. I'll start a new thread.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Sean Busbeybus...@cloudera.com  wrote:

let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org

wrote:

And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
Anybody have any thoughts on that?

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org

wrote:

I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.

Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
releases who wants to try?

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii



--
Sean




Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-21 Thread Christopher
I know Corey volunteered, but I'd like to get started today releasing
1.6.3. So, if there's no objection in the next hour or so, I'm just
going to move forward and produce an rc0 test release (no voting
necessary, as it won't be released, but testing is welcome).

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Corey Nolet cjno...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is, unless any of the new committers would like to take it on- in that
 case, I can help ;-)

 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Corey Nolet cjno...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can get a 1.6.3 together.


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:

 Sure, we can discuss that separately. I'll start a new thread.

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote:
  let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
  closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
  Anybody have any thoughts on that?
 
  --
  Christopher L Tubbs II
  http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
 
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
   I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
   and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.
  
   Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
   prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
   releases who wants to try?
  
   --
   Christopher L Tubbs II
   http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sean





1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-12 Thread Christopher
I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.

Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
releases who wants to try?

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-12 Thread Josh Elser
Agree - 1.6.3 would be good to ship. Discuss on EOL 1.5 would be good to 
entertain. It's about that time.


Sean Busbey wrote:

let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org  wrote:


And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
Anybody have any thoughts on that?

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopherctubb...@apache.org  wrote:

I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.

Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
releases who wants to try?

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii






Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-12 Thread Sean Busbey
let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:

 And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
 closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
 Anybody have any thoughts on that?

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:
  I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
  and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.
 
  Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
  prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
  releases who wants to try?
 
  --
  Christopher L Tubbs II
  http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii




-- 
Sean


Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-12 Thread Christopher
Sure, we can discuss that separately. I'll start a new thread.

--
Christopher L Tubbs II
http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote:
 let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.

 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:

 And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
 closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
 Anybody have any thoughts on that?

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:
  I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
  and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.
 
  Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
  prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
  releases who wants to try?
 
  --
  Christopher L Tubbs II
  http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii




 --
 Sean


Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-12 Thread Corey Nolet
I can get a 1.6.3 together.

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:

 Sure, we can discuss that separately. I'll start a new thread.

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 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote:
  let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
  closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
  Anybody have any thoughts on that?
 
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  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
   I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
   and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.
  
   Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
   prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
   releases who wants to try?
  
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   Christopher L Tubbs II
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  Sean



Re: 1.5.3 and 1.6.3

2015-05-12 Thread Corey Nolet
That is, unless any of the new committers would like to take it on- in that
case, I can help ;-)

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Corey Nolet cjno...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can get a 1.6.3 together.


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org wrote:

 Sure, we can discuss that separately. I'll start a new thread.

 --
 Christopher L Tubbs II
 http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii


 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Sean Busbey bus...@cloudera.com wrote:
  let's please have a labeled [DISCUSS] thread on when and how to EOL 1.5.
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 12:55 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  And, whether or not we release 1.5.3, I do think we should consider
  closing out development on that branch after 1.7.0 is released.
  Anybody have any thoughts on that?
 
  --
  Christopher L Tubbs II
  http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
 
 
  On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Christopher ctubb...@apache.org
 wrote:
   I'd like to think about releasing 1.5.3 and 1.6.3, since there are 75
   and 82 commits in those branches, presumably fixing a lot of bugs.
  
   Is anybody willing to act as release manager for either of these and
   prepare the RCs? Perhaps somebody who hasn't already done some
   releases who wants to try?
  
   --
   Christopher L Tubbs II
   http://gravatar.com/ctubbsii
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sean