Re: Some feedback on EasyAnt

2013-04-18 Thread Jean-Louis Boudart
Done on trunk
Le 17 avr. 2013 18:32, "Xavier Hanin"  a écrit :

> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Jean-Louis Boudart <
> jeanlouis.boud...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What is the desired behavior when junit is missing in project classpath ?
> > 1 - ignore test ? maybe with a message @info level ?
> > 2 - configure the plugin to use junit version specified in the project.
> and
> > if no one is specified use the one specified by us in the plugin itself ?
> >
>
> I think failing is ok, after all there is a dependency missing.
>
> My 2 c.
>
> Xavier
> --
> Xavier Hanin - 4SH France - http://www.4sh.fr/
> BordeauxJUG creator - http://www.bordeauxjug.org/
> Apache Ivy Creator - http://ant.apache.org/ivy/
>


RE: Some feedback on EasyAnt

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Gainty
Xavier-

in Maven if you have no Junit tests located in .\src\test folf
then all test (test-scoped) dependencies are skipped

the same behaviour should be emulated in 'EasyAnt'
My 2 cents

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 > Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:32:07 +0200
> Subject: Re: Some feedback on EasyAnt
> From: xavier.ha...@gmail.com
> To: dev@ant.apache.org
> 
> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Jean-Louis Boudart <
> jeanlouis.boud...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > What is the desired behavior when junit is missing in project classpath ?
> > 1 - ignore test ? maybe with a message @info level ?
> > 2 - configure the plugin to use junit version specified in the project. and
> > if no one is specified use the one specified by us in the plugin itself ?
> >
> 
> I think failing is ok, after all there is a dependency missing.
> 
> My 2 c.
> 
> Xavier
> -- 
> Xavier Hanin - 4SH France - http://www.4sh.fr/
> BordeauxJUG creator - http://www.bordeauxjug.org/
> Apache Ivy Creator - http://ant.apache.org/ivy/
  

Re: Some feedback on EasyAnt

2013-04-17 Thread Xavier Hanin
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Jean-Louis Boudart <
jeanlouis.boud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is the desired behavior when junit is missing in project classpath ?
> 1 - ignore test ? maybe with a message @info level ?
> 2 - configure the plugin to use junit version specified in the project. and
> if no one is specified use the one specified by us in the plugin itself ?
>

I think failing is ok, after all there is a dependency missing.

My 2 c.

Xavier
-- 
Xavier Hanin - 4SH France - http://www.4sh.fr/
BordeauxJUG creator - http://www.bordeauxjug.org/
Apache Ivy Creator - http://ant.apache.org/ivy/


Re: Some feedback on EasyAnt

2013-04-17 Thread Xavier Hanin
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Jean-Louis Boudart <
jeanlouis.boud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Xavier,
>
> Thanks for your feedback !
> [...]
> >
> > - from a documentation point of view, I have not found the documentation
> of
> > plugins. Having links from the plugins and standard build types pages
> would
> > be really nice. To change the compiler source and target version I had to
> > check the source files.
> >
>
>
> >
> > - the source files of plugins are pretty easy to read and understand, I
> > think providing links to them or documentation on where to find them
> would
> > be useful for people used to plain ant (maybe I just missed this part of
> > the doc, I didn't read everything).
> >
> Plugin documentation is not online yet. We didn't took time to find how to
> publish them as we may have differences in future plugin releases.
> We already have a way to generate plugin documentation. Adding links to
> plugin sources could be a good too.
>
Yes, it would really be nice, and sources are pretty much self explanatory,
so it could be enough to start. Maybe only a link to the plugins repo to
browse the source online could be a good start.

>
>
> > - I've written a small tool to convert basic (very basic I mean) pom
> files
> > to module.ivy, and the result is interesting: on a bunch of modules, not
> > only the build run perfectly well (it's really nice to use the same
> > conventions), but also it's slightly faster: on a 22 multi module build,
> a
> > "easyant package" take 19s against 23s for "mvn -DskipTests=true install"
> >
> Nice to hear that it's easy to move from a standard maven build with
> multimodules to easyant. Will you share your tool to convert pom files to
> module.ivy ?
>
Yes, I will, but it's very basic. It's part of another project I'm working
on, I'll keep you posted when I release it in open source.

Xavier
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Re: Some feedback on EasyAnt

2013-04-15 Thread Jean-Louis Boudart
What is the desired behavior when junit is missing in project classpath ?
1 - ignore test ? maybe with a message @info level ?
2 - configure the plugin to use junit version specified in the project. and
if no one is specified use the one specified by us in the plugin itself ?


2013/4/15 Jean-Louis Boudart 

> Hi Xavier,
>
> Thanks for your feedback !
>
>
> 2013/4/15 Xavier Hanin 
>
>>
>> I've been playing a little bit with easyant 0.9 this wek-end, and I have
>> some feedback:
>> - I have some issues with the multi module example:
>>   - if I run "easyant verify" at the root I get an error: "The 
>> for  must include junit.jar if not in Ant's own classpath"
>>   - if I run "easyant publish-local" I get another error: "bad revision
>> found in ivy file (Revision: 0.2-local-20130415094618). Use forcedeliver
>> or
>> update"
>>
> Good catch i'll fix this now
>
>
>>
>> - from a documentation point of view, I have not found the documentation
>> of
>> plugins. Having links from the plugins and standard build types pages
>> would
>> be really nice. To change the compiler source and target version I had to
>> check the source files.
>>
>
>
>>
>> - the source files of plugins are pretty easy to read and understand, I
>> think providing links to them or documentation on where to find them would
>> be useful for people used to plain ant (maybe I just missed this part of
>> the doc, I didn't read everything).
>>
> Plugin documentation is not online yet. We didn't took time to find how to
> publish them as we may have differences in future plugin releases.
> We already have a way to generate plugin documentation. Adding links to
> plugin sources could be a good too.
>
>
>> - I've written a small tool to convert basic (very basic I mean) pom files
>> to module.ivy, and the result is interesting: on a bunch of modules, not
>> only the build run perfectly well (it's really nice to use the same
>> conventions), but also it's slightly faster: on a 22 multi module build, a
>> "easyant package" take 19s against 23s for "mvn -DskipTests=true install"
>>
> Nice to hear that it's easy to move from a standard maven build with
> multimodules to easyant. Will you share your tool to convert pom files to
> module.ivy ?
>
>
>>
>> To conclude there's room for improvement, but you've done a very good work
>> especially on the maven compatibility side, which is great for people
>> having a maven build.
>>
> I plan to continue improving support for maven users. In early days of
> easyant we wrote a plugin to emulate maven publication (generating a pom
> and related metadatas) [1] . I saw ivy improvements on makepom task [2] and
> i believe we have work to do on both project to make life easier for maven
> users to reuse publicated artifacts by ivy/easyant.
>
>
>
>
>> For the bugs and documentation improvements, I know I could contrbute
>> myself, but I have to admit I don't have enough time to dedicate.
>>
> No problem :)
>
>
> [1]
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ant/easyant/plugins/trunk/maven-publication/
> [2] http://ant.apache.org/ivy/history/trunk/use/makepom.html
>
> --
> Jean Louis Boudart
> Independent consultant
> Apache EasyAnt commiter http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/
>



-- 
Jean Louis Boudart
Independent consultant
Apache EasyAnt commiter http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/


Re: Some feedback on EasyAnt

2013-04-15 Thread Jean-Louis Boudart
Hi Xavier,

Thanks for your feedback !


2013/4/15 Xavier Hanin 

>
> I've been playing a little bit with easyant 0.9 this wek-end, and I have
> some feedback:
> - I have some issues with the multi module example:
>   - if I run "easyant verify" at the root I get an error: "The 
> for  must include junit.jar if not in Ant's own classpath"
>   - if I run "easyant publish-local" I get another error: "bad revision
> found in ivy file (Revision: 0.2-local-20130415094618). Use forcedeliver or
> update"
>
Good catch i'll fix this now


>
> - from a documentation point of view, I have not found the documentation of
> plugins. Having links from the plugins and standard build types pages would
> be really nice. To change the compiler source and target version I had to
> check the source files.
>


>
> - the source files of plugins are pretty easy to read and understand, I
> think providing links to them or documentation on where to find them would
> be useful for people used to plain ant (maybe I just missed this part of
> the doc, I didn't read everything).
>
Plugin documentation is not online yet. We didn't took time to find how to
publish them as we may have differences in future plugin releases.
We already have a way to generate plugin documentation. Adding links to
plugin sources could be a good too.


> - I've written a small tool to convert basic (very basic I mean) pom files
> to module.ivy, and the result is interesting: on a bunch of modules, not
> only the build run perfectly well (it's really nice to use the same
> conventions), but also it's slightly faster: on a 22 multi module build, a
> "easyant package" take 19s against 23s for "mvn -DskipTests=true install"
>
Nice to hear that it's easy to move from a standard maven build with
multimodules to easyant. Will you share your tool to convert pom files to
module.ivy ?


>
> To conclude there's room for improvement, but you've done a very good work
> especially on the maven compatibility side, which is great for people
> having a maven build.
>
I plan to continue improving support for maven users. In early days of
easyant we wrote a plugin to emulate maven publication (generating a pom
and related metadatas) [1] . I saw ivy improvements on makepom task [2] and
i believe we have work to do on both project to make life easier for maven
users to reuse publicated artifacts by ivy/easyant.




> For the bugs and documentation improvements, I know I could contrbute
> myself, but I have to admit I don't have enough time to dedicate.
>
No problem :)


[1]
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ant/easyant/plugins/trunk/maven-publication/
[2] http://ant.apache.org/ivy/history/trunk/use/makepom.html

-- 
Jean Louis Boudart
Independent consultant
Apache EasyAnt commiter http://incubator.apache.org/easyant/