[api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-30 Thread Simon B. Margulies

Hi all,

I'm still evaluating open office as the new solution for my parents  
tax software, which has been built in excel with some vba scripts.


A lot of effort in this project has been put into cross-platform  
compatibility (windows and os x). Not having real programming  
knowledge VBA and excel seemed to be the right solution for my  
parents: And it really works fine: the possibility to have the  
spreadsheet functionality combined with the easy to learn VBA worked  
quite long. But now mikrosoft has announced to cease support for VBA  
and any automation on os x. So Excel won't be the 'development  
platform' for my parents in the future and a new solution has to be  
found.


I'd like to port their tax software to open office to be able to  
develop with java (I'm still trying to get the sdk working with  
eclipse as you can see in my other post..) But I won't have time for  
porting it all and supporting them all the time. It would be  
mandatory that my parents could script some basic solutions  
themselves - and learning java is not a possibility of theirs..


now the nicest solutions for us all would be to doubleclick the .xls  
file and run vba in open office, which surprisingly doesn't work ;)

Nevertheless I'd like to give it a try..
The explanations on http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA
are somehow cryptic and the vba mailing lists far from being active.

What do you think? Are there any developers using VBA in Open Office?
Is VBA supported in openoffice for windows AND os x?
Should all be ported to some other scripting language?


thanks for your suggestions!


Simon

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Re: [api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-30 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Simon,


Simon B. Margulies wrote:

[...] 
What do you think? Are there any developers using VBA in Open Office?


I can hardly imagine, because ...


Is VBA supported in openoffice for windows AND os x?


... it is only partly supported in the Novell OOo-version and a bit more 
supported with StarOffice Professional Tools (and if I don't mistake, 
thats not yet for Mac).



Should all be ported to some other scripting language?


That is what I do most often with VBA code.
Part can be re-used and some smart things can be done to reduce the work.

HTH,
Kindest regards,
Cor


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Re: [api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-30 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak

Simon B. Margulies wrote:

Hi all,

I'm still evaluating open office as the new solution for my parents 
tax software, which has been built in excel with some vba scripts.

...

What do you think? Are there any developers using VBA in Open Office?
Is VBA supported in openoffice for windows AND os x?
Should all be ported to some other scripting language?

I suspect that I do not properly understand what you are proposing. Are 
you proposing to continue using VBA and then use that to access OOo? 
This would not be very cross-platform compatible.


Using Java should be, but it has a higher learning curve and you still 
need to learn the OOo API. Have you considered using StarBasic included 
with OOo?



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Re: [api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-30 Thread Cor Nouws


Cor Nouws wrote:


[...]
That is what I do most often with VBA code.
[...]


Andrew's mail made me remember I didn't mention the scripting language I 
convert to. That is OOo/StarOffice Basic.



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Re: [api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-30 Thread Simon B. Margulies

thanks for your answers!

I'm now looking into porting the existing vba-code to StarBasic and  
trying to get java working for future developments.


thanks a lot

simon




On 30.07.2007, at 22:39, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


Simon B. Margulies wrote:

Hi all,

I'm still evaluating open office as the new solution for my  
parents tax software, which has been built in excel with some vba  
scripts.

...

What do you think? Are there any developers using VBA in Open Office?
Is VBA supported in openoffice for windows AND os x?
Should all be ported to some other scripting language?

I suspect that I do not properly understand what you are proposing.  
Are you proposing to continue using VBA and then use that to access  
OOo? This would not be very cross-platform compatible.


Using Java should be, but it has a higher learning curve and you  
still need to learn the OOo API. Have you considered using  
StarBasic included with OOo?



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Re: [api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-30 Thread Cor Nouws

Simon B. Margulies wrote:


thanks for your answers!


You're welcome!


I'm now looking into porting the existing vba-code to StarBasic 


- Andrew Pitonyak provides a lot of info (see his footer);
- there's the OOoForum.org;
- the Wiki : 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_development_basic ;

and ... this list ;-)

Regards,
Cor

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Re: [api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-31 Thread Juergen Schmidt

Hi Simon,

Simon B. Margulies wrote:

thanks for your answers!

I'm now looking into porting the existing vba-code to StarBasic and 
trying to get java working for future developments.


the work on better VBA support is ongoing and probably usable for some 
simpler macros and maybe more complex things in the future. Anyway the 
API concept in OO.org is completely different than VBA. I would 
recommend to switch to StarBasic and or Java as soon as possible and go 
forward with OO.org API. You can also combine StarBasic for simple 
things with more complex features realized as add-on or whatever and 
implemented in Java. The advantage of Java is that you can use all the 
available Java API's as well and combine this way office functionality 
with interesting other stuff.


Anyway you work with Eclipse but i think you should give our NetBeans 
plugin a try as well. It simplifies a lot of things and helps you to get 
started, see 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration 
for more details. Well Mac OS X is currently not supported but it is 
planned for the next version (planned for the beginning of September).



Juergen




thanks a lot

simon




On 30.07.2007, at 22:39, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


Simon B. Margulies wrote:

Hi all,

I'm still evaluating open office as the new solution for my parents 
tax software, which has been built in excel with some vba scripts.

...

What do you think? Are there any developers using VBA in Open Office?
Is VBA supported in openoffice for windows AND os x?
Should all be ported to some other scripting language?

I suspect that I do not properly understand what you are proposing. 
Are you proposing to continue using VBA and then use that to access 
OOo? This would not be very cross-platform compatible.


Using Java should be, but it has a higher learning curve and you still 
need to learn the OOo API. Have you considered using StarBasic 
included with OOo?



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My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
See Also: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html

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Re: [api-dev] Open Office VBA porting? or leave as it is?

2007-07-31 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
I started this a few years back (so it is dated and incomplete), but it 
might be useful. I think that on the hosting web page, there are better 
links, but I threw this up just because I had it sitting around.


http://www.pitonyak.org/OOoBasicVBCompare.pdf



Simon B. Margulies wrote:

thanks for your answers!

I'm now looking into porting the existing vba-code to StarBasic and 
trying to get java working for future developments.


thanks a lot

simon




On 30.07.2007, at 22:39, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:


Simon B. Margulies wrote:

Hi all,

I'm still evaluating open office as the new solution for my parents 
tax software, which has been built in excel with some vba scripts.

...

What do you think? Are there any developers using VBA in Open Office?
Is VBA supported in openoffice for windows AND os x?
Should all be ported to some other scripting language?

I suspect that I do not properly understand what you are proposing. 
Are you proposing to continue using VBA and then use that to access 
OOo? This would not be very cross-platform compatible.


Using Java should be, but it has a higher learning curve and you 
still need to learn the OOo API. Have you considered using StarBasic 
included with OOo?



--
Andrew Pitonyak
My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt
My Book: http://www.hentzenwerke.com/catalog/oome.htm
Info:  http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
See Also: http://documentation.openoffice.org/HOW_TO/index.html

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