Re: Creating a user@ mailing list

2018-08-16 Thread Wes McKinney
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16915

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Wes McKinney  wrote:
> To give an example,
>
> dev@spark has 3008 subscribers
> user@spark has 5022 subscribers
>
> Spark is a quite different project, of course, but it shows that a
> user list can and will attract more subscribers. dev@arrow has 789
> subscribers
>
> - Wes
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Brian Hulette  wrote:
>> Agreed. I was concerned about the plan to drop Slack because it was a place
>> users would come to ask questions (for better or worse). I assumed that was
>> because those users were just uncomfortable with mailing lists, but I think
>> Uwe is right, they're probably just uncomfortable with *this* mailing list,
>> where most of the discussion is about development.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:52 AM Wes McKinney  wrote:
>>
>>> hi Uwe,
>>>
>>> This sounds like a good idea to me. I think we should go ahead and ask
>>> INFRA to set it up. We'll need to add a "Community" landing page on
>>> the website of sorts to explain the mailing lists better.
>>>
>>> - Wes
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Uwe L. Korn  wrote:
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> > I would like to create a u...@arrow.apache.org mailing list. Some
>>> people are a bit confused that there is only a dev mailing list. They
>>> interpret this as a mailing list that should be used solely for Arrow
>>> development, not usage questions. This is sadly a psychological barrier for
>>> people to get a bit more involved since we have closed Slack.
>>> >
>>> > What are others thinking about this?
>>> >
>>> > Uwe
>>>


Re: Creating a user@ mailing list

2018-08-16 Thread Wes McKinney
To give an example,

dev@spark has 3008 subscribers
user@spark has 5022 subscribers

Spark is a quite different project, of course, but it shows that a
user list can and will attract more subscribers. dev@arrow has 789
subscribers

- Wes

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:52 AM, Brian Hulette  wrote:
> Agreed. I was concerned about the plan to drop Slack because it was a place
> users would come to ask questions (for better or worse). I assumed that was
> because those users were just uncomfortable with mailing lists, but I think
> Uwe is right, they're probably just uncomfortable with *this* mailing list,
> where most of the discussion is about development.
>
> Brian
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:52 AM Wes McKinney  wrote:
>
>> hi Uwe,
>>
>> This sounds like a good idea to me. I think we should go ahead and ask
>> INFRA to set it up. We'll need to add a "Community" landing page on
>> the website of sorts to explain the mailing lists better.
>>
>> - Wes
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Uwe L. Korn  wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I would like to create a u...@arrow.apache.org mailing list. Some
>> people are a bit confused that there is only a dev mailing list. They
>> interpret this as a mailing list that should be used solely for Arrow
>> development, not usage questions. This is sadly a psychological barrier for
>> people to get a bit more involved since we have closed Slack.
>> >
>> > What are others thinking about this?
>> >
>> > Uwe
>>


Re: Creating a user@ mailing list

2018-08-16 Thread Brian Hulette
Agreed. I was concerned about the plan to drop Slack because it was a place
users would come to ask questions (for better or worse). I assumed that was
because those users were just uncomfortable with mailing lists, but I think
Uwe is right, they're probably just uncomfortable with *this* mailing list,
where most of the discussion is about development.

Brian

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:52 AM Wes McKinney  wrote:

> hi Uwe,
>
> This sounds like a good idea to me. I think we should go ahead and ask
> INFRA to set it up. We'll need to add a "Community" landing page on
> the website of sorts to explain the mailing lists better.
>
> - Wes
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Uwe L. Korn  wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I would like to create a u...@arrow.apache.org mailing list. Some
> people are a bit confused that there is only a dev mailing list. They
> interpret this as a mailing list that should be used solely for Arrow
> development, not usage questions. This is sadly a psychological barrier for
> people to get a bit more involved since we have closed Slack.
> >
> > What are others thinking about this?
> >
> > Uwe
>


Re: Creating a user@ mailing list

2018-08-16 Thread Wes McKinney
hi Uwe,

This sounds like a good idea to me. I think we should go ahead and ask
INFRA to set it up. We'll need to add a "Community" landing page on
the website of sorts to explain the mailing lists better.

- Wes


On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 4:49 AM, Uwe L. Korn  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to create a u...@arrow.apache.org mailing list. Some people are 
> a bit confused that there is only a dev mailing list. They interpret this as 
> a mailing list that should be used solely for Arrow development, not usage 
> questions. This is sadly a psychological barrier for people to get a bit more 
> involved since we have closed Slack.
>
> What are others thinking about this?
>
> Uwe


Creating a user@ mailing list

2018-08-16 Thread Uwe L. Korn
Hello all,

I would like to create a u...@arrow.apache.org mailing list. Some people are a 
bit confused that there is only a dev mailing list. They interpret this as a 
mailing list that should be used solely for Arrow development, not usage 
questions. This is sadly a psychological barrier for people to get a bit more 
involved since we have closed Slack.

What are others thinking about this?

Uwe