Re: [dev-biblio] Update

[David Wilson]

Edward,

Welcome to our project, I am sure you will be be able to find 
some 
interesting way to use your programming skills to help us. Please keep in 
touch.

David



On Sunday 13 November 2005 8:32 am, Edward Summers wrote:
> On Nov 12, 2005, at 3:21 PM, David Wilson wrote:
> > My impression is that they support, in principle, our approach
> > and goals. We have to wait and see what resources can be scheduled
> > for this
> > work and when.
>
> Wow, this is great news. I'm a new subscriber to the dev list. I got
> interested by following Bruce's work for close to a year. Bruce
> actually asked me to send a quick introduction.
>
> I'm a software developer at Follett Corporation (a book distributor
> and library software company). I am currently working as a Java
> programmer but also have experience programming in Python, Ruby and
> Perl.  A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I got an MLS and
> worked in academic libraries before deciding to pursue my life long
> interest in computers.
>
> At any rate, I'd like to contribute programming skills to this
> project. Hopefully I'll find the time to get involved as things
> progress.
>
> Ed Summers
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Re: [dev-biblio] Update

[Edward Summers]

On Nov 12, 2005, at 3:21 PM, David Wilson wrote:

My impression is that they support, in principle, our approach
and goals. We have to wait and see what resources can be scheduled  
for this

work and when.


Wow, this is great news. I'm a new subscriber to the dev list. I got  
interested by following Bruce's work for close to a year. Bruce  
actually asked me to send a quick introduction.


I'm a software developer at Follett Corporation (a book distributor  
and library software company). I am currently working as a Java  
programmer but also have experience programming in Python, Ruby and  
Perl.  A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I got an MLS and  
worked in academic libraries before deciding to pursue my life long  
interest in computers.


At any rate, I'd like to contribute programming skills to this  
project. Hopefully I'll find the time to get involved as things  
progress.


Ed Summers
aim: inkdroid
yahoo: inkdroid
jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.inkdroid.org ; http://www.textualize.com

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Re: [dev-biblio] metadata update

[David Wilson]

On Sunday 13 November 2005 4:07 am, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> Just a quick update:
>
> Long story here, but the short take-home point is that I'll be leading
> an effort -- hosted by the new OpenDocument Fellowship -- to design a
> proposal to significantly enhance metadata support in OpenDocument.
> That proposal will formalize the ideas I laid out here:
>
> Bruce

This is great news - indicative of the growing support for Bruce's innovative 
approach to  metadata support in OpenDocument - which is central to the 
sucesss of our bibliographic project.

For those who have not yet come across it yet a mp3 is available of the talk 
Bruce was recently invited to give to the Canadian library technology 
conference Access 2005. His talk was -

Bridging Worlds: Library IT and Free Software

"Presents ongoing work in improving open standards and software for students 
and researchers by exploiting innovations in library-oriented technology and 
trends in the free software community. Focuses in particular on the 
OpenOffice bibliographic project and related work."

You can down load the mp3 
http://access2005.library.ualberta.ca/presentations/podcasts/darcus.mp3

and the slides 
http://www.users.muohio.edu/darcusb/talks/biblio/Access2005.html

Also the OpenDocument Fellowship can be found at -

http://opendocumentfellowship.org/Main/HomePage

regards

David


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[dev-biblio] Update

[David Wilson]

Bibliographic List members,

To let you know what has been happening -

Bruce D'Arcus has been lobbying senior Sun OpenOffice managers to get some 
definite statement of support for our project and some idea of the scope of 
work that they may be willing to undertake. We have asked that at a minimum 
we need -

Sun to improve the infrastructure for bibliographic metadata and citations. 
This involves changes at both the level of OpenDocument, which we started 
last year with a citation proposal that was approved by the OD TC, but which 
are as yet incomplete, and at the level of OOo infrastructure. (Bruce' message 
today shows that his is progressing)

Sun to enhance OOo to make it easier for developers (including Sun!) to 
innovate. This is the custom content access idea. ( At the moment, if you add 
any custom data into a OOo save file, and open and close the file with an OOo 
application your custom data will be removed. There needs to be a mechanism 
by which developers and users can add and save custom data.)

The OOo bibliographic functions exposed via a plug-in API to make it really 
easy for third-parties to plug-in in a consistent way. We have proposed, with 
advice from industry experts (two of whom are working with us), that the 
easiest and most forward-looking way to do this is to expose the ZOOM API via 
UNO.

Once these are in place it will be much easier for volunteer developers to 
build and attach the bibliographic applications that we need. 

The answer we have received was that they now have to -

1) work out a rough technical design for the involved areas,
2) get the resources from the involved teams to support (not implement) the 
effort and 
3) have people with the will and ability to do grass-roots work.

My impression is that they support, in principle, our approach 
and goals. We have to wait and see what resources can be scheduled for this 
work and when.  


Regards

David Wilson

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[dev-biblio] correction

[Bruce D'Arcus]

I meant this:




Bruce


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[dev-biblio] metadata update

[Bruce D'Arcus]

Just a quick update:

Long story here, but the short take-home point is that I'll be leading  
an effort -- hosted by the new OpenDocument Fellowship -- to design a  
proposal to significantly enhance metadata support in OpenDocument.  
That proposal will formalize the ideas I laid out here:





So the idea will be to use an integrated approach to all metadata in  
ODF, including figures, tables, formulas, charts ... and bibliographic  
references.


I've talked to two OD TC members about this, and they're supportive  
(indeed, one of them suggested it).


Interesting times ...

Bruce


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