Re: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation

2017-07-31 Thread Cloud List 
Hi Lucian,

Nice to hear from you again. Below is the KVM version (QEMU version, to be
exact) I am using:

# kvm --version
QEMU emulator version 2.4.1, Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard

I am using Ubuntu instead of CentOS for the KVM host, may I know if this
affects KVM running on Ubuntu as well? I am using Intel Xeon E5 series for
the hypervisor hosts, not too sure if it's supported and part of the Xeon E
series on the list?

Looking forward to your reply, thank you.

Cheers.

-ip-


On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Nux!  wrote:

> It could be this
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_
> Enterprise_Linux/6/html/6.8_Release_Notes/known_issues_virtualization.html
>
> --
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>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Nux!" 
> > To: "users" 
> > Cc: "dev" 
> > Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2017 16:54:51
> > Subject: Re: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation
>
> > What version of KVM?
> >
> > --
> > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> >
> > Nux!
> > www.nux.ro
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Cloud List" 
> >> To: "users" 
> >> Cc: "dev" 
> >> Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2017 03:31:45
> >> Subject: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I am using CloudStack 4.8.1.1 with KVM hypervisor. I have downloaded
> >> Windows Server 2016 ISO but when I tried to boot up the ISO for
> >> installation and template creation, it immediately goes into Blue
> Screen /
> >> BSOD with below error messages:
> >>
> >> ===
> >> Your PC ran into a problem and needs a restart. We'll restart for you.
> >>
> >> For more information about this issue and possible fixes, visit
> >> http://windows.com/stopcode
> >>
> >> If you call a support person, give them this info:
> >> Stop Code: SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED
> >> ===
> >>
> >> and then it will go into restart, hit with the same error and keep on
> >> restarting on an infinite loop.
> >>
> >> I browse around and it seems the error is related to outdated or wrong
> >> driver (most probably display driver) or due to resources issues. Have
> >> tried to increase the resources to 8 GB RAM, 4 CPU cores and 60 GB of
> disk
> >> space, and the problem still persists. Have tried different OS types:
> >> "Other PV (64-bit)", "Other (64-bit)" and "Windows Server 2012 R2
> >> (64-bit"), and problem still persists.
> >>
> >> I understand that Windows Server 2016 should work and some people have
> >> managed to get Windows Server 2016 VM and template up and running (see
> >> below email thread for example) -- anyone encountered similar issues and
> >> can provide advise?
> >>
> >> Any advice is greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message --
> >> From: Andrija Panic 
> >> Date: Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:49 AM
> >> Subject: Re: OS Type: Windows Server 2016 - CS 4.9.2
> >> To: "us...@cloudstack.apache.org" 
> >>
> >>
> >> We used to provide 2016 template for our users, with VirtIO preinstalled
> >> inside OS (during building template), and then we simply choose OS type
> of
> >> "Windows PV" - not related to Xen (we use KVM), but just FYI as
> parallel.
> >>
> >> On 12 April 2017 at 15:57, Pierre-Luc Dion  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi David,
> >>>
> >>> When using pre xenserver 7, CloudStack deploy Windows 2016 vm as "Other
> >> (64
> >>> bit)".
> >>> I've made some test with XenServer 7.1  and Windows 2016 are default
> HVM
> >>> when using the new xenserver template  for Windows 2016.
> >>> My understanding is that if you run a VM in XenServer as HVM and you
> have
> >>> xentools installed and up-to-date, your VM run in PVHVM mode which
> seems
> >> to
> >>> be the best of both world.
> >>>
> >>> The coming release of ACS (4.10) should have updated ostype so windows
> >> 2016
> >>> wouid use Windows 2016 template in xenserver 7+ instead of "Other (64
> >>> bit)".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:14 AM, David Amorín <
> >>> david.amo...@adderglobal.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi all,
> >>> > In our test environment based on CS 4.9.2 and XS 7.0, we are
> deploying
> >>> VMs
> >>> > with Windows Server 2016 as guest installation, using OS Type: "Other
> >>> > (64-bit)" and so far everything is working fine. We understand that
> >> using
> >>> > this option we are deploying full virtualized (HVM)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Do you know if there is any issue (error, performance, etc.) for
> using
> >>> > "Other (64-bit))=HVM for Windows Server 2016 VMs?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Do you know when will be available Windows Server 2016 as OS Type?
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > David
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> > > Andrija Panić
>

Re: Introduction

2017-07-31 Thread Satki Badal 
Welcome Nicolas !

- Satki

> On 31-Jul-2017, at 8:37 PM, Nicolas Vazquez  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> My name is Nicolas Vazquez, today is my first day at @ShapeBlue as a Software 
> Engineer. I am based in Montevideo, Uruguay and I've been working with 
> CloudStack since mid-2015. Looking forward to working with you!
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> nicolas.vazq...@shapeblue.com 
> www.shapeblue.com
> ,   
> @shapeblue
> 
> 
>

Re: Introduction

2017-07-31 Thread Simon Weller 

Welcome Nicolas, nice to have you on-board!


- Si



From: Nicolas Vazquez 
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 10:07:04 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Introduction

Hi all,


My name is Nicolas Vazquez, today is my first day at @ShapeBlue as a Software 
Engineer. I am based in Montevideo, Uruguay and I've been working with 
CloudStack since mid-2015. Looking forward to working with you!


Thanks,

Nicolas

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www.shapeblue.com
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Re: Introduction

2017-07-31 Thread Rohit Yadav 
Welcome Nicolas!


- Rohit


From: Nicolas Vazquez 
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 5:07:04 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Introduction

Hi all,


My name is Nicolas Vazquez, today is my first day at @ShapeBlue as a Software 
Engineer. I am based in Montevideo, Uruguay and I've been working with 
CloudStack since mid-2015. Looking forward to working with you!


Thanks,

Nicolas

nicolas.vazq...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
,
@shapeblue




rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue

Re: Introduction

2017-07-31 Thread Ezequiel Mc Govern 
Felicitaciones Nicolas !, estamos cerquita :)




2017-07-31 12:20 GMT-03:00 Nux! :

> Welcome aboard, Nicolas! :-)
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Nicolas Vazquez" 
> > To: "dev" 
> > Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2017 16:07:04
> > Subject: Introduction
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> > My name is Nicolas Vazquez, today is my first day at @ShapeBlue as a
> Software
> > Engineer. I am based in Montevideo, Uruguay and I've been working with
> > CloudStack since mid-2015. Looking forward to working with you!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> > nicolas.vazq...@shapeblue.com
> > www.shapeblue.com
> > ,
> > @shapeblue
>



-- 
Saludos !!
Ezequiel ;)

Re: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation

2017-07-31 Thread Nux! 
It could be this
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html/6.8_Release_Notes/known_issues_virtualization.html

--
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Nux!
www.nux.ro

- Original Message -
> From: "Nux!" 
> To: "users" 
> Cc: "dev" 
> Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2017 16:54:51
> Subject: Re: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation

> What version of KVM?
> 
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> 
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Cloud List" 
>> To: "users" 
>> Cc: "dev" 
>> Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2017 03:31:45
>> Subject: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I am using CloudStack 4.8.1.1 with KVM hypervisor. I have downloaded
>> Windows Server 2016 ISO but when I tried to boot up the ISO for
>> installation and template creation, it immediately goes into Blue Screen /
>> BSOD with below error messages:
>> 
>> ===
>> Your PC ran into a problem and needs a restart. We'll restart for you.
>> 
>> For more information about this issue and possible fixes, visit
>> http://windows.com/stopcode
>> 
>> If you call a support person, give them this info:
>> Stop Code: SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED
>> ===
>> 
>> and then it will go into restart, hit with the same error and keep on
>> restarting on an infinite loop.
>> 
>> I browse around and it seems the error is related to outdated or wrong
>> driver (most probably display driver) or due to resources issues. Have
>> tried to increase the resources to 8 GB RAM, 4 CPU cores and 60 GB of disk
>> space, and the problem still persists. Have tried different OS types:
>> "Other PV (64-bit)", "Other (64-bit)" and "Windows Server 2012 R2
>> (64-bit"), and problem still persists.
>> 
>> I understand that Windows Server 2016 should work and some people have
>> managed to get Windows Server 2016 VM and template up and running (see
>> below email thread for example) -- anyone encountered similar issues and
>> can provide advise?
>> 
>> Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Andrija Panic 
>> Date: Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: OS Type: Windows Server 2016 - CS 4.9.2
>> To: "us...@cloudstack.apache.org" 
>> 
>> 
>> We used to provide 2016 template for our users, with VirtIO preinstalled
>> inside OS (during building template), and then we simply choose OS type of
>> "Windows PV" - not related to Xen (we use KVM), but just FYI as parallel.
>> 
>> On 12 April 2017 at 15:57, Pierre-Luc Dion  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> When using pre xenserver 7, CloudStack deploy Windows 2016 vm as "Other
>> (64
>>> bit)".
>>> I've made some test with XenServer 7.1  and Windows 2016 are default HVM
>>> when using the new xenserver template  for Windows 2016.
>>> My understanding is that if you run a VM in XenServer as HVM and you have
>>> xentools installed and up-to-date, your VM run in PVHVM mode which seems
>> to
>>> be the best of both world.
>>>
>>> The coming release of ACS (4.10) should have updated ostype so windows
>> 2016
>>> wouid use Windows 2016 template in xenserver 7+ instead of "Other (64
>>> bit)".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:14 AM, David Amorín <
>>> david.amo...@adderglobal.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > In our test environment based on CS 4.9.2 and XS 7.0, we are deploying
>>> VMs
>>> > with Windows Server 2016 as guest installation, using OS Type: "Other
>>> > (64-bit)" and so far everything is working fine. We understand that
>> using
>>> > this option we are deploying full virtualized (HVM)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Do you know if there is any issue (error, performance, etc.) for using
>>> > "Other (64-bit))=HVM for Windows Server 2016 VMs?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Do you know when will be available Windows Server 2016 as OS Type?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > David
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
> > Andrija Panić

Re: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation

2017-07-31 Thread Nux! 
What version of KVM?

--
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Nux!
www.nux.ro

- Original Message -
> From: "Cloud List" 
> To: "users" 
> Cc: "dev" 
> Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2017 03:31:45
> Subject: Windows Server 2016 - unable to boot ISO for installation

> Dear all,
> 
> I am using CloudStack 4.8.1.1 with KVM hypervisor. I have downloaded
> Windows Server 2016 ISO but when I tried to boot up the ISO for
> installation and template creation, it immediately goes into Blue Screen /
> BSOD with below error messages:
> 
> ===
> Your PC ran into a problem and needs a restart. We'll restart for you.
> 
> For more information about this issue and possible fixes, visit
> http://windows.com/stopcode
> 
> If you call a support person, give them this info:
> Stop Code: SYSTEM THREAD EXCEPTION NOT HANDLED
> ===
> 
> and then it will go into restart, hit with the same error and keep on
> restarting on an infinite loop.
> 
> I browse around and it seems the error is related to outdated or wrong
> driver (most probably display driver) or due to resources issues. Have
> tried to increase the resources to 8 GB RAM, 4 CPU cores and 60 GB of disk
> space, and the problem still persists. Have tried different OS types:
> "Other PV (64-bit)", "Other (64-bit)" and "Windows Server 2012 R2
> (64-bit"), and problem still persists.
> 
> I understand that Windows Server 2016 should work and some people have
> managed to get Windows Server 2016 VM and template up and running (see
> below email thread for example) -- anyone encountered similar issues and
> can provide advise?
> 
> Any advice is greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Andrija Panic 
> Date: Thu, May 4, 2017 at 4:49 AM
> Subject: Re: OS Type: Windows Server 2016 - CS 4.9.2
> To: "us...@cloudstack.apache.org" 
> 
> 
> We used to provide 2016 template for our users, with VirtIO preinstalled
> inside OS (during building template), and then we simply choose OS type of
> "Windows PV" - not related to Xen (we use KVM), but just FYI as parallel.
> 
> On 12 April 2017 at 15:57, Pierre-Luc Dion  wrote:
> 
>> Hi David,
>>
>> When using pre xenserver 7, CloudStack deploy Windows 2016 vm as "Other
> (64
>> bit)".
>> I've made some test with XenServer 7.1  and Windows 2016 are default HVM
>> when using the new xenserver template  for Windows 2016.
>> My understanding is that if you run a VM in XenServer as HVM and you have
>> xentools installed and up-to-date, your VM run in PVHVM mode which seems
> to
>> be the best of both world.
>>
>> The coming release of ACS (4.10) should have updated ostype so windows
> 2016
>> wouid use Windows 2016 template in xenserver 7+ instead of "Other (64
>> bit)".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 4:14 AM, David Amorín <
>> david.amo...@adderglobal.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > In our test environment based on CS 4.9.2 and XS 7.0, we are deploying
>> VMs
>> > with Windows Server 2016 as guest installation, using OS Type: "Other
>> > (64-bit)" and so far everything is working fine. We understand that
> using
>> > this option we are deploying full virtualized (HVM)
>> >
>> >
>> > Do you know if there is any issue (error, performance, etc.) for using
>> > "Other (64-bit))=HVM for Windows Server 2016 VMs?
>> >
>> >
>> > Do you know when will be available Windows Server 2016 as OS Type?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>>
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Andrija Panić

Re: Introduction

2017-07-31 Thread Nux! 
Welcome aboard, Nicolas! :-)

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Nux!
www.nux.ro

- Original Message -
> From: "Nicolas Vazquez" 
> To: "dev" 
> Sent: Monday, 31 July, 2017 16:07:04
> Subject: Introduction

> Hi all,
> 
> 
> My name is Nicolas Vazquez, today is my first day at @ShapeBlue as a Software
> Engineer. I am based in Montevideo, Uruguay and I've been working with
> CloudStack since mid-2015. Looking forward to working with you!
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> nicolas.vazq...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> ,
> @shapeblue

Re: Introduction

2017-07-31 Thread Voloshanenko Igor 
Welcome Nicolas!
Nice to meet you

пн, 31 июля 2017 г. в 18:07, Nicolas Vazquez :

> Hi all,
>
>
> My name is Nicolas Vazquez, today is my first day at @ShapeBlue as a
> Software Engineer. I am based in Montevideo, Uruguay and I've been working
> with CloudStack since mid-2015. Looking forward to working with you!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nicolas
>
> nicolas.vazq...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> ,
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
>

Introduction

2017-07-31 Thread Nicolas Vazquez 
Hi all,


My name is Nicolas Vazquez, today is my first day at @ShapeBlue as a Software 
Engineer. I am based in Montevideo, Uruguay and I've been working with 
CloudStack since mid-2015. Looking forward to working with you!


Thanks,

Nicolas

nicolas.vazq...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
,   
@shapeblue

Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

2017-07-31 Thread Rohit Yadav 
Moving to a packer based build system can still reuse the same scripts and 
recipes to build a systemvmtemplate which is agnostic of who/how you build it. 
With lack of time and resources, moving to debian9 based systemvmtemplate is a 
much needed effort and moving to a new build system can be a next step.

The current build system may not be perfect, may be tricky to setup at first. 
Most recently updated docs are at tools/appliance/README.md, if anyone has 
issues you may ping me and I may be able to help.

Now back to the topic of supporting debian9 as systemvmtemplate base, I was 
able to get something up and running this weekend and get serial console. I 
could also verify some patching done by the systemvm.iso file however I'm 
facing issues with running cloud-early-config, postinit and cloud services in a 
certain order and I need help around the systemd scripts.

Here's the PR:
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2211

The PR branch is pushed on ASF remote so any committer can collaborate with me 
by pushing changes/fixes as a separate commit on that branch, feel free to do 
so. Thanks.

- Rohit

From: Paul Angus 
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 11:11:53 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

Depending on the timescales that we looking at, if we can get an agreement to 
use Packer going forward, there is an argument to say that spending time 
getting the Debian 9 template to work on VeeWee and then on Packer is wasted 
effort and that we should just use this as the opportunity to move over to 
Packer/Debian9.

Having spent the weekend fighting with RVM/VeeWee/Ruby.  And finding that we've 
hard linked rvm to Ruby 2.1.1 when it's now on 2.4, Veewee hasn't been updated 
for years  and other mismatches.  I'm very interested to see other options 
explored.

Veewee doesn't do the disk conversions at them moment, so we can still keep 
that a separate process for corner cases that Packer (or something else) can't 
manage..

Kind regards,

Paul Angus

paul.an...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue




rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
  
 


-Original Message-
From: Rohit Yadav [mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com]
Sent: 28 July 2017 20:30
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

I think we can move to packer once we can get the Debian9 based 
systemvmtemplate to work.

I think we should focus on doing this first and then focus on migration to a 
new build system as a next step.


I spent some time today and with some help from veewee authors, I could get a 
base template up and running:

https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2211


The above PR branch is pushed on ASF remote and allows for cross-collaboration 
with all ACS committers. Please collaborate with me on this and feel free to 
push changes on the branch as separate commits and/or make changes to the PR. 
Thanks.


- Rohit


From: Tim Mackey 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 3:59:36 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

Syed,

I did a bunch of work on XenServer with Packer [1] before leaving Citrix.
My stuff works rather well and was tested with XS 6.2, 6.5 and 7. It shouldn't 
be hard to validate with newest XS and updated Packer - I just lack the infra 
to do the testing.

[1] https://github.com/xenserverarmy/packer

-tim


rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue



On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Syed Ahmed  wrote:

> -1 on Arch as well. Moving to Debian 9 seems the wiser choice IMO.
> I've used Packer before and I really like it, the only downside that I
> see is that Packer lacks support for XenServer VHD images. There is
> some work on a XenServer plugin but I haven't tested that. If the
> community decides to use Packer, I can do some initial validation of it on 
> XenServer.
>
> Thanks,
> -Syed
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Wido den Hollander 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Op 24 juli 2017 om 19:07 schreef Rene Moser :
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Rohit
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/23/2017 06:08 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just want to kick an initial discussion around migration to
> > > > Debian9
> > based systemvmtemplate, and get your feedback on the same.
> > > >
> > > > Here's a work-in-progress PR: https://github.com/apache/
> > cloudstack/pull/2198
> > >
> > > Have you considered to replace veewee by packer?
> > >
> >
> > Packer is really nice indeed. We use it to build our templates [0]
> > which we use on CloudStack.
> >
> > Building the SSVM using Packer should be rather easy I think.
> >
> > [0]: https://github.com/pcextreme/packer-templates
> >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

2017-07-31 Thread Satki Badal 
The whole ruby platform is running out of steam, high time to move to Packer 
while moving system VMS to Debian9.

- Satki


> On 31-Jul-2017, at 2:41 PM, Paul Angus  wrote:
> 
> Depending on the timescales that we looking at, if we can get an agreement to 
> use Packer going forward, there is an argument to say that spending time 
> getting the Debian 9 template to work on VeeWee and then on Packer is wasted 
> effort and that we should just use this as the opportunity to move over to 
> Packer/Debian9.
> 
> Having spent the weekend fighting with RVM/VeeWee/Ruby.  And finding that 
> we've hard linked rvm to Ruby 2.1.1 when it's now on 2.4, Veewee hasn't been 
> updated for years  and other mismatches.  I'm very interested to see other 
> options explored.
> 
> Veewee doesn't do the disk conversions at them moment, so we can still keep 
> that a separate process for corner cases that Packer (or something else) 
> can't manage..
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paul Angus
> 
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com 
> www.shapeblue.com
> 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London  WC2N 4HSUK
> @shapeblue
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rohit Yadav [mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com] 
> Sent: 28 July 2017 20:30
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate
> 
> I think we can move to packer once we can get the Debian9 based 
> systemvmtemplate to work.
> 
> I think we should focus on doing this first and then focus on migration to a 
> new build system as a next step.
> 
> 
> I spent some time today and with some help from veewee authors, I could get a 
> base template up and running:
> 
> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2211
> 
> 
> The above PR branch is pushed on ASF remote and allows for 
> cross-collaboration with all ACS committers. Please collaborate with me on 
> this and feel free to push changes on the branch as separate commits and/or 
> make changes to the PR. Thanks.
> 
> 
> - Rohit
> 
> 
> From: Tim Mackey 
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 3:59:36 AM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate
> 
> Syed,
> 
> I did a bunch of work on XenServer with Packer [1] before leaving Citrix.
> My stuff works rather well and was tested with XS 6.2, 6.5 and 7. It 
> shouldn't be hard to validate with newest XS and updated Packer - I just lack 
> the infra to do the testing.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/xenserverarmy/packer
> 
> -tim
> 
> 
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> 
> On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Syed Ahmed  wrote:
> 
>> -1 on Arch as well. Moving to Debian 9 seems the wiser choice IMO. 
>> I've used Packer before and I really like it, the only downside that I 
>> see is that Packer lacks support for XenServer VHD images. There is 
>> some work on a XenServer plugin but I haven't tested that. If the 
>> community decides to use Packer, I can do some initial validation of it on 
>> XenServer.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Syed
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Wido den Hollander 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
 Op 24 juli 2017 om 19:07 schreef Rene Moser :
 
 
 Hi Rohit
 
 
 On 07/23/2017 06:08 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> All,
> 
> 
> Just want to kick an initial discussion around migration to 
> Debian9
>>> based systemvmtemplate, and get your feedback on the same.
> 
> Here's a work-in-progress PR: https://github.com/apache/
>>> cloudstack/pull/2198
 
 Have you considered to replace veewee by packer?
 
>>> 
>>> Packer is really nice indeed. We use it to build our templates [0] 
>>> which we use on CloudStack.
>>> 
>>> Building the SSVM using Packer should be rather easy I think.
>>> 
>>> [0]: https://github.com/pcextreme/packer-templates
>>> 
 Our friends from schubergphilis have already done some work here 
 https://github.com/MissionCriticalCloud/systemvm-packer.
 
 However there would be also an official way to convert the 
 definitions https://www.packer.io/guides/veewee-to-packer.html
 
 Regards René
>>> 
>> 
>

RE: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

2017-07-31 Thread Paul Angus 
Depending on the timescales that we looking at, if we can get an agreement to 
use Packer going forward, there is an argument to say that spending time 
getting the Debian 9 template to work on VeeWee and then on Packer is wasted 
effort and that we should just use this as the opportunity to move over to 
Packer/Debian9.

Having spent the weekend fighting with RVM/VeeWee/Ruby.  And finding that we've 
hard linked rvm to Ruby 2.1.1 when it's now on 2.4, Veewee hasn't been updated 
for years  and other mismatches.  I'm very interested to see other options 
explored.

Veewee doesn't do the disk conversions at them moment, so we can still keep 
that a separate process for corner cases that Packer (or something else) can't 
manage..

Kind regards,

Paul Angus

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-Original Message-
From: Rohit Yadav [mailto:rohit.ya...@shapeblue.com] 
Sent: 28 July 2017 20:30
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

I think we can move to packer once we can get the Debian9 based 
systemvmtemplate to work.

I think we should focus on doing this first and then focus on migration to a 
new build system as a next step.


I spent some time today and with some help from veewee authors, I could get a 
base template up and running:

https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/2211


The above PR branch is pushed on ASF remote and allows for cross-collaboration 
with all ACS committers. Please collaborate with me on this and feel free to 
push changes on the branch as separate commits and/or make changes to the PR. 
Thanks.


- Rohit


From: Tim Mackey 
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 3:59:36 AM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Move to Debian9 systemvmtemplate

Syed,

I did a bunch of work on XenServer with Packer [1] before leaving Citrix.
My stuff works rather well and was tested with XS 6.2, 6.5 and 7. It shouldn't 
be hard to validate with newest XS and updated Packer - I just lack the infra 
to do the testing.

[1] https://github.com/xenserverarmy/packer

-tim


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On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:19 AM, Syed Ahmed  wrote:

> -1 on Arch as well. Moving to Debian 9 seems the wiser choice IMO. 
> I've used Packer before and I really like it, the only downside that I 
> see is that Packer lacks support for XenServer VHD images. There is 
> some work on a XenServer plugin but I haven't tested that. If the 
> community decides to use Packer, I can do some initial validation of it on 
> XenServer.
>
> Thanks,
> -Syed
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Wido den Hollander 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > > Op 24 juli 2017 om 19:07 schreef Rene Moser :
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Rohit
> > >
> > >
> > > On 07/23/2017 06:08 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote:
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just want to kick an initial discussion around migration to 
> > > > Debian9
> > based systemvmtemplate, and get your feedback on the same.
> > > >
> > > > Here's a work-in-progress PR: https://github.com/apache/
> > cloudstack/pull/2198
> > >
> > > Have you considered to replace veewee by packer?
> > >
> >
> > Packer is really nice indeed. We use it to build our templates [0] 
> > which we use on CloudStack.
> >
> > Building the SSVM using Packer should be rather easy I think.
> >
> > [0]: https://github.com/pcextreme/packer-templates
> >
> > > Our friends from schubergphilis have already done some work here 
> > > https://github.com/MissionCriticalCloud/systemvm-packer.
> > >
> > > However there would be also an official way to convert the 
> > > definitions https://www.packer.io/guides/veewee-to-packer.html
> > >
> > > Regards René
> >
>