Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Sven Vogel]

Hey Guys,

I don’t understand the problem. I don’t like slack too but I don’t like mailing 
list or  neither. I think the first one is closed and slow. For me is an 
mailing list or irc also not the wisdom final conclusion but hey do we have a 
better one? No.

If IRC is death drop it. If we don’t want slack drop it. leave ONLY the mailing 
list until there we get an better interactive technology, maybe open source.

Cheers


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> Am 22.08.2019 um 20:28 schrieb Andrija Panic :
>
> My whole idea is that having one (IRC) marketed on web pages, while using
> the other silently (Slack) makes less than zero sense to me.
>
> And, for me, a tool is a tool, I'm not married to it (some people prefer vi
> editor and have religious attachments to it, I just use nano to get the job
> done)
>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:49 Nux!  wrote:
>>
>> I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions.
>>
>> I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even
>> more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my
>> heart.
>>
>> Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but
>> because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for
>> Slack.
>>
>>
>> We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the
>> archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide helpful
>> information to everyone.
>>
>> I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress",
>> but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it.
>>
>> My 2p
>>
>>
>> ---
>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>
>>> On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
>>> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there
>>> seems
>>> to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I
>>> would
>>> like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
>>> marketing
>>> this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
>>> channel
>>> on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good)
>>> all
>>> others chat channels.
>>>
>>> i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
>>> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
>>> pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so
>>> the
>>> users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
>>>
>>> Suggestions, opinions ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrija Panić
>>

RE: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Paul Angus]

Personally, I agree with Nux, I could live without yet another communication 
medium that I have to check. So I would prefer the searchable medium of the 
mailing lists with the fall back of maybe Slack for group calls or chats if 
really required.   Given the worldwide time zones we cover, real-time 
conversations are automatically going to exclude a large number of people.  The 
conversation threading in email clients allows me to see the subject of a 
conversation and decide if can or want to join in.

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-Original Message-
From: Andrija Panic  
Sent: 22 August 2019 19:28
To: Nux! 
Cc: dev 
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

My whole idea is that having one (IRC) marketed on web pages, while using the 
other silently (Slack) makes less than zero sense to me.

And, for me, a tool is a tool, I'm not married to it (some people prefer vi 
editor and have religious attachments to it, I just use nano to get the job
done)

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:49 Nux!  wrote:

> I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions.
>
> I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even 
> more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my 
> heart.
>
> Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but 
> because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for 
> Slack.
>
>
> We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the 
> archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide 
> helpful information to everyone.
>
> I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress", 
> but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it.
>
> My 2p
>
>
> ---
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel ( 
> > https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since 
> > there seems to be an official ASF slack channel at 
> > https://the-asf.slack.com/, I would like to open a discussion of the 
> > idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
> > marketing
> > this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack 
> > channel on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close 
> > for good) all others chat channels.
> >
> > i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) 
> > we currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK 
> > it's pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update 
> > this, so the users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
> >
> > Suggestions, opinions ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andrija Panić
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Andrija Panic]

My whole idea is that having one (IRC) marketed on web pages, while using
the other silently (Slack) makes less than zero sense to me.

And, for me, a tool is a tool, I'm not married to it (some people prefer vi
editor and have religious attachments to it, I just use nano to get the job
done)

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 19:49 Nux!  wrote:

> I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions.
>
> I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even
> more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my
> heart.
>
> Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but
> because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for
> Slack.
>
>
> We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the
> archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide helpful
> information to everyone.
>
> I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress",
> but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it.
>
> My 2p
>
>
> ---
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
> > https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there
> > seems
> > to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I
> > would
> > like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
> > marketing
> > this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
> > channel
> > on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good)
> > all
> > others chat channels.
> >
> > i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
> > currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
> > pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so
> > the
> > users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
> >
> > Suggestions, opinions ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andrija Panić
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Nux!]

I'm heavily against Slack or any other proprietary, closed solutions.

I think it's a step back generally for the Internet at large and even 
more so for an open source project; I can't reconcile the two in my 
heart.


Having said that, I believe the chat is dead not because it's IRC, but 
because people prefer async comms (ie email). It'll be the same for 
Slack.



We should be promoting the mailing lists. They are active and the 
archives are open to search engines etc and can further provide helpful 
information to everyone.


I won't -1 the decision, I don't want to be in the way of "progress", 
but it's not a +1 either. I won't be using it.


My 2p


---
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!

On 2019-08-22 16:57, Andrija Panic wrote:

Hi guys,

Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there 
seems
to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I 
would
like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e. 
marketing
this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack 
channel
on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good) 
all

others chat channels.

i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so 
the

users can be aware of "alive" chat channel

Suggestions, opinions ?

Regards,

Andrija Panić

RE: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Paul Angus]

I joined with apache email no problem.

Please all remember that Slack (like IRC before it) can only be for 'chat', all 
'business' must take place on the mailing list.


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-Original Message-
From: Sven Vogel  
Sent: 22 August 2019 17:27
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

Hi Andrija,

Does that mean we have an slack channel for internal use and one for all other 
use cases?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


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> Am 22.08.2019 um 18:24 schrieb Andrija Panic :
>
> I would say we are interested, as explained originally, in just the 
> "official" ASF channel (per my proposal, but happy to hear otherwise) 
> - the whole idea is to get rid of (dead) IRC channel.
>
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 19:21, Sven Vogel  wrote:
>>
>> Maybe we can change this. I know I was in this slack channel since 
>> 2015 and I don’t had an Apache mail address.
>>
>> We have two slack channel at the moment? Where they come from?
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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>>> Am 22.08.2019 um 18:13 schrieb Paul Angus :
>>>
>>> The ASF-slack page says that you need an apache email address to get 
>>> an
>> account.  If that is the case I'd be -1 on using that channel, as it 
>> blocks anyone who isn't a committer.
>>>
>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>>> www.shapeblue.com
>>> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andrija Panic 
>>> Sent: 22 August 2019 16:57
>>> To: dev 
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
>> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there
>> seems to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/,
>> I would like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
>> marketing this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
>> channel on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for
>> good) all others chat channels.
>>>
>>> i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
>> currently announce the IRC channel (???) 

Re: Introduction: Radu Todirica

[Riepl, Gregor (SWISS TXT)]

Welcome, Radu!

On Wed, 2019-08-21 at 15:06 +, Simon Weller wrote:
> All,
> 
> I'd like to introduce Radu Todirica to the community.  Radu is a
> new(er) member of the ENA team and has been making lots of
> contributions to CloudStack and you can expect to see some PRs from
> him pretty soon.
> 
> Please join me in making him welcome!
> 
> -Si
> 
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Sven Vogel]

Hi Andrija,

Does that mean we have an slack channel for internal use and one for all other 
use cases?

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> Am 22.08.2019 um 18:24 schrieb Andrija Panic :
>
> I would say we are interested, as explained originally, in just the
> "official" ASF channel (per my proposal, but happy to hear otherwise) - the
> whole idea is to get rid of (dead) IRC channel.
>
>> On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 19:21, Sven Vogel  wrote:
>>
>> Maybe we can change this. I know I was in this slack channel since 2015
>> and I don’t had an Apache mail address.
>>
>> We have two slack channel at the moment? Where they come from?
>>
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>>
>>
>> __
>>
>> Sven Vogel
>> Teamlead Platform
>>
>> EWERK RZ GmbH
>> Brühl 24, D-04109 Leipzig
>> P +49 341 42649 - 11
>> F +49 341 42649 - 18
>> s.vo...@ewerk.com
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>>> Am 22.08.2019 um 18:13 schrieb Paul Angus :
>>>
>>> The ASF-slack page says that you need an apache email address to get an
>> account.  If that is the case I'd be -1 on using that channel, as it blocks
>> anyone who isn't a committer.
>>>
>>> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
>>> www.shapeblue.com
>>> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
>>> @shapeblue
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Andrija Panic 
>>> Sent: 22 August 2019 16:57
>>> To: dev 
>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
>> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there
>> seems to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/,
>> I would like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
>> marketing this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
>> channel on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for
>> good) all others chat channels.
>>>
>>> i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
>> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
>> pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so the
>> users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
>>>
>>> Suggestions, opinions ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrija Panić
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić

Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Andrija Panic]

I would say we are interested, as explained originally, in just the
"official" ASF channel (per my proposal, but happy to hear otherwise) - the
whole idea is to get rid of (dead) IRC channel.

On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 19:21, Sven Vogel  wrote:

> Maybe we can change this. I know I was in this slack channel since 2015
> and I don’t had an Apache mail address.
>
> We have two slack channel at the moment? Where they come from?
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
>
> __
>
> Sven Vogel
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>
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> Brühl 24, D-04109 Leipzig
> P +49 341 42649 - 11
> F +49 341 42649 - 18
> s.vo...@ewerk.com
> www.ewerk.com
>
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> Dr. Erik Wende, Hendrik Schubert, Frank Richter
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>
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> > Am 22.08.2019 um 18:13 schrieb Paul Angus :
> >
> > The ASF-slack page says that you need an apache email address to get an
> account.  If that is the case I'd be -1 on using that channel, as it blocks
> anyone who isn't a committer.
> >
> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> > www.shapeblue.com
> > Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
> > @shapeblue
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrija Panic 
> > Sent: 22 August 2019 16:57
> > To: dev 
> > Subject: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there
> seems to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/,
> I would like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
> marketing this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
> channel on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for
> good) all others chat channels.
> >
> > i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
> pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so the
> users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
> >
> > Suggestions, opinions ?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Andrija Panić
>


-- 

Andrija Panić

Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Sven Vogel]

Maybe we can change this. I know I was in this slack channel since 2015 and I 
don’t had an Apache mail address.

We have two slack channel at the moment? Where they come from?

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


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> Am 22.08.2019 um 18:13 schrieb Paul Angus :
>
> The ASF-slack page says that you need an apache email address to get an 
> account.  If that is the case I'd be -1 on using that channel, as it blocks 
> anyone who isn't a committer.
>
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
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> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
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>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrija Panic 
> Sent: 22 August 2019 16:57
> To: dev 
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel ( 
> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there seems 
> to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I would 
> like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e. marketing 
> this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack channel on 
> the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good) all others 
> chat channels.
>
> i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we 
> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's pretty 
> dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so the users can 
> be aware of "alive" chat channel
>
> Suggestions, opinions ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrija Panić

Re: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Andrija Panic]

I agreed with that Paul, but what Rohit mentioned (on our current Slack
channel) is that some people joined with non-Apache email addresses, just
they need an invitation (which is the case with our current Slack channel
as well).

(Actually, I also wasn't able to login to ASF slack with my @apache.org
email address (checked my credentials, can access other Apache services))

@Rohit Yadav   would be good to confirm this one
please ^^^

Cheers


On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 19:13, Paul Angus  wrote:

> The ASF-slack page says that you need an apache email address to get an
> account.  If that is the case I'd be -1 on using that channel, as it blocks
> anyone who isn't a committer.
>
> paul.an...@shapeblue.com
> www.shapeblue.com
> Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
> @shapeblue
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrija Panic 
> Sent: 22 August 2019 16:57
> To: dev 
> Subject: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
> https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there
> seems to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/,
> I would like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e.
> marketing this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack
> channel on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for
> good) all others chat channels.
>
> i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
> currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
> pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so the
> users can be aware of "alive" chat channel
>
> Suggestions, opinions ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrija Panić
>


-- 

Andrija Panić

RE: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Paul Angus]

The ASF-slack page says that you need an apache email address to get an 
account.  If that is the case I'd be -1 on using that channel, as it blocks 
anyone who isn't a committer.

paul.an...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue
  
 


-Original Message-
From: Andrija Panic  
Sent: 22 August 2019 16:57
To: dev 
Subject: [DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

Hi guys,

Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel ( 
https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there seems to 
be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I would like to 
open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e. marketing this on all 
event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack channel on the official 
ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good) all others chat channels.

i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we 
currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's pretty 
dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so the users can be 
aware of "alive" chat channel

Suggestions, opinions ?

Regards,

Andrija Panić

[DISCUSS] Change of the official CHAT channel

[Andrija Panic]

Hi guys,

Since IRC is pretty dead, and we already have a Slack channel (
https://apachecloudstack.slack.com ) that we use atm, AND since there seems
to be an official ASF slack channel at https://the-asf.slack.com/, I would
like to open a discussion of the idea to "officially"  move (i.e. marketing
this on all event pages and main web site) to that new CloudStack channel
on the official ASF slack account/page - and abandon (close for good) all
others chat channels.

i.e. on this year conference page (http://us.cloudstackcollab.org/) we
currently announce the IRC channel (???) to be the one (and AFAIK it's
pretty dead) - so I would propose to move forward and update this, so the
users can be aware of "alive" chat channel

Suggestions, opinions ?

Regards,

Andrija Panić

Re: Introduction: Radu Todirica

[Abhishek Kumar]

Welcome Radu!

Regards,

Abhishek Kumar


From: Simon Weller 
Sent: 21 August 2019 20:36
To: dev 
Cc: Radu Todirica 
Subject: Introduction: Radu Todirica

All,

I'd like to introduce Radu Todirica to the community.  Radu is a new(er) member 
of the ENA team and has been making lots of contributions to CloudStack and you 
can expect to see some PRs from him pretty soon.

Please join me in making him welcome!

-Si



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www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue
  
 

[GitHub] [cloudstack-documentation] PaulAngus commented on a change in pull request #68: Add OVF properties documentation for VMware templates

[GitBox]

PaulAngus commented on a change in pull request #68: Add OVF properties 
documentation for VMware templates
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/68#discussion_r316251873
 
 

 ##
 File path: source/adminguide/virtual_machines.rst
 ##
 @@ -194,6 +194,9 @@ To create a VM from a template:
 #. Be sure that the hardware you have allows starting the selected
service offering.
 
+   .. note:: 
+  Vmware only: if the selected template contains OVF properties, the 
wizard displays these properties so you can populate them.
 
 Review comment:
   ```suggestion
 VMware only: if the selected template OVF contains static properties, 
the wizard displays these properties so you can populate them.
   ```


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[GitHub] [cloudstack-documentation] PaulAngus commented on a change in pull request #68: Add OVF properties documentation for VMware templates

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PaulAngus commented on a change in pull request #68: Add OVF properties 
documentation for VMware templates
URL: 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack-documentation/pull/68#discussion_r316253603
 
 

 ##
 File path: source/adminguide/templates.rst
 ##
 @@ -275,6 +275,11 @@ To upload a template:
   
 Note that uploading multi-disk templates is also supported.
 
+.. note:: 
+Templates corresponding to appliances with OVF properties (vApp 
options) are also supported. CloudStack stores OVF template properties on 
database after successful template installation. After the template is ready, 
these properties are displayed by selecting the template, and clicking on the 
'OVF Properties' tab
 
 Review comment:
   ```suggestion
   Templates corresponding to appliances with'static properties' in 
the OVF (such as virtual appliances) are also supported. CloudStack stores any 
template properties in the OVF in the database after successful template 
installation. Once the template is ready, these properties are viewed by 
selecting the template and clicking on the 'OVF Properties' tab.
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RE: Introduction: Radu Todirica

[Paul Angus]

Hi Radu, welcome aboard!

paul.an...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue
  
 


-Original Message-
From: Anurag Awasthi  
Sent: 22 August 2019 08:08
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
Cc: Radu Todirica 
Subject: Re: Introduction: Radu Todirica

Welcome to the team, Radu!

From: Boris Stoyanov 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 12:01 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org 
Cc: Radu Todirica 
Subject: Re: Introduction: Radu Todirica

Welcome aboard Radu!

Bobby

On 21.08.19, 18:07, "Simon Weller"  wrote:

All,

I'd like to introduce Radu Todirica to the community.  Radu is a new(er) 
member of the ENA team and has been making lots of contributions to CloudStack 
and you can expect to see some PRs from him pretty soon.

Please join me in making him welcome!

-Si





boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue




anurag.awas...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK @shapeblue
  
 

Re: Introduction: Radu Todirica

[Anurag Awasthi]

Welcome to the team, Radu!

From: Boris Stoyanov 
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 12:01 PM
To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org 
Cc: Radu Todirica 
Subject: Re: Introduction: Radu Todirica

Welcome aboard Radu!

Bobby

On 21.08.19, 18:07, "Simon Weller"  wrote:

All,

I'd like to introduce Radu Todirica to the community.  Radu is a new(er) 
member of the ENA team and has been making lots of contributions to CloudStack 
and you can expect to see some PRs from him pretty soon.

Please join me in making him welcome!

-Si





boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue




anurag.awas...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue
  
 

Re: Introduction: Radu Todirica

[Boris Stoyanov]

Welcome aboard Radu! 

Bobby

On 21.08.19, 18:07, "Simon Weller"  wrote:

All,

I'd like to introduce Radu Todirica to the community.  Radu is a new(er) 
member of the ENA team and has been making lots of contributions to CloudStack 
and you can expect to see some PRs from him pretty soon.

Please join me in making him welcome!

-Si





boris.stoya...@shapeblue.com 
www.shapeblue.com
Amadeus House, Floral Street, London  WC2E 9DPUK
@shapeblue